Nebraska fires AD

Submitted by ChalmersE on

Have to assume the new AD will fire the coach.  BTW, I understand a former Michigan AD might be looking for work soon. 

In reply to by ijohnb

SpikeFan2016

September 21st, 2017 at 3:34 PM ^

Eh, have to disagree on that one. 

 

PSU-MSU has no fanbase overlap, are decently far away and come from fairly different states/cultures that each have other rivals to focus on first and foremost (both fanbases hate both UM and OSU more than each other, and PSU fans are also more likely to interact with Pitt/Maryland/Rutgers fans). 

 

Iowa and Nebraska are border states that are very similar culturally and geographically. The vast majority of Nebraskans live within an hour of the Iowa border and western Iowans in particular are very likely to know a decent amount of Husker fans. 

 

Iowa's the only natural rival Nebraska has in the Big Ten. 

buddha

September 21st, 2017 at 4:03 PM ^

At most, they are "newbie" rivals. I agree with everything you outlined, and I think Neb - Iowa can develop into a good rivalry, but it's not there yet. They've only started playing each other annually since 2011 and have only played each other 14 times since the end of WW2.

For all the reasons you outlined above, the Neb - Iowa games have the potential to be a great rivalry...And - at least for the Big 10 - I hope they become rivals! But, Nebraska lost their traditional rival(s) when they left the Big 12 (same with Missouri).

In reply to by ijohnb

Blue in Paradise

September 21st, 2017 at 3:12 PM ^

It would be good for the B1G for the same reason as above. 

With Frost there, they immediately have a rivalry with Michigan (just in time for us to play them for the first time in 10 years [not really but seems so] in 2018.

It won't be long before Frost creates rivalries with a few other teams as well.  It will be good for the B1G.

 

We'll be Champions

September 21st, 2017 at 3:08 PM ^

Meh, I mean while they are not winning right now it is not exactly a tough place to win. The west division is practically begging for another good team, so if they got Frost I think they can return the usual 9 win season with the occasional run at a Big Ten title, which if we know anything about Husker fans, will have him fired by the end of his fourth season!

I Like Burgers

September 21st, 2017 at 3:28 PM ^

The problem with Nebraska is that its really tough to recruit there.  Like where is their recruiting base?  They are isolated from everyone, and its just plain hard to get to for unofficials.  Its tough to recruit kids from Big 12 country, because they would rather go there, its tough to recruit west coast because those kids would rather stay there, and they are far enough from the midwest and south that they run into too many other appealing options for recruits.  So where are they recruiting from?

Yes, a path to the championship game in the West is fairly easy, but that's about all they've got going for it.  If you're going to take that job, you've got to be really confident you can recruit kids there.  The closest states that have a power 5 team to Nebraska are Colordao, Kansas, Missouri, Iowa, and Minnesota -- all of those states have the same problem: very little local talent and hard to get to from areas that do have talent.

Mr Miggle

September 21st, 2017 at 3:52 PM ^

In fact, he's doing very well in CA. The geography isn't great, but Nebraska has a great history and game experience to sell to recruits. I bet they have big framed photos of the red stadium at ND too. Lincoln is a pretty good sized college town. It's not like trying to bring recruits in to Ames, Iowa.

Kevin13

September 21st, 2017 at 3:44 PM ^

I think you would have to have former ties to that program to want to take it on. 9 wins a season gets you fired because they have unrealistic expectations.  Nebraska is just not what it was in the early and mid 90's and honestly I would be surprised if it ever returns to it. I can't understand how they get good players to go to school there. 

The Mad Hatter

September 21st, 2017 at 2:35 PM ^

Yeah you, over there with the meth and corn and despair!  It's not 1995 anymore.  No one wants to play for your shitty school.  9 wins is pretty good!   Pick up the phone and beg him to come back.

ijohnb

September 21st, 2017 at 2:37 PM ^

the AD just put out a statement on Monday that made it sould like he wanted to fire Riley.  Man, you want to talk about a program without an identify.  Nebraska to the BIG never worked.  Riley was kind of an odd hire.  Honestly, I am glad I am not a Nebraska football fan.  That doesn't look like very much fun.

StephenRKass

September 21st, 2017 at 3:34 PM ^

It really depends on the program you are in . . . I'm guessing Michigan, Northwestern, and Illinois all have different strengths (just looked at the top 3.) Several observations:

  1. Obv., in-state vs. out-of-state makes a difference, hugely for cost, also somewhat for admission. I'm curious how much Michigan residents get a bump in admission over out of state applicants.
  2. This is a static chart, and things change. However, I think Northwestern and Michigan have consistently been at the top. What I suspect has happened is that both Illinois (#3) and OSU (#7) have come up a bit over the last 20 years. OSU was bad academically when I was a student. And I think Illinois was a lot more middle of the pack.
  3. Again, while overall ranking is great, it really comes down to specific degree programs. There is such huge variation with schools . . . and even inside of schools. For instance, Michigan is really strong in some of the engineering programs . . . but not all. Nursing, Art, Music, Architecture, Business, Journalism, Agriculture, Education . . . they are stronger at some schools than others. Michigan has no agriculture or vet science, and that's fine.

Maceo24

September 21st, 2017 at 3:34 PM ^

That would put UM at #3.  To me, that overall ROI doesn't make any sense.  Why would you average Salary with overall ranking?  That is offsetting salary with prestige.  Who cares!  If you look at overall ROI with all universities there are things that don't make sense.

 

Colorado School of Mines and the Air Force Academy have the 3rd and 4th highest salary return on investment but are 34th and 44th in Overal ROI.  What could be so wrong with those schools that you absurdly recoup your costs but they get ranked 25% of the way down?

Carcajou

September 21st, 2017 at 3:58 PM ^

Yeah, I never got adding Nebraska to B1G.
Didn't make sense academically, and at least Rutgers and Maryland made sense from a recruiting and TV footprint standpoint- Nebraska adds nothing there.

While it was adding like adding a marquis name for an older demographic who remember the glory days to show up in a cameo role, for this century they seem to make little sense.

Mr Miggle

September 21st, 2017 at 4:11 PM ^

Hiring Riley was controversial and based on their personal relationship. Nothing untoward, but the circumstances were such that if Riley didn't work out, Eichorst was gone. He was never going to be allowed to hire Riley's replacement.

It's not a slam dunk that Riley gets canned. He still has time to turn this season around, but he's #2 on my list of coaches most likely to be fired during the season, right behind Sumlin.