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12/10/2018 - 9:55am Patterson also had his worst…

Patterson also had his worst game(s) of the year versus Ohio State (and ND too, arguably). Yes, the opponent had something to do with that, but with a few notable exceptions, he was not seeing the field well, and not throwing the ball where it needed to be thrown.

12/05/2018 - 11:56pm But taking conference…

But taking conference champions regardless of losses actually encourages them to schedule stronger OOC opponents. Which is something I am sure many fans (especially season ticket buyers) would prefer to see.

12/05/2018 - 11:51pm If you can convince school…

If you can convince school administrators to allow two further games in January (maybe a double-header for a semi-final site), then fine.

But please don't make the mistake of emulating the pros and schedule those games a week apart. College players/teams/coaches/fans need more than a week--preferably ten days to two weeks--between those games to recover, make plans, get ready, and maybe even squeeze in a little school. So maybe the semi-final would be mid-January and the final later January, possibly that weekend before the Super Bowl.

Only two teams would have a season that dragged on that long, but I am sure there would be a lot of resistance from those who complain about the length of the season and its effects on student-athletes.

12/05/2018 - 11:39pm I agree to a large extent…

I agree to a large extent. What we have is a limited tournament, not really a playoff.  An actual play-off would mean exactly that: a play off between teams only when there is uncertainty as to which team is the absolute best. Anything else is a tournament.

Some years, there will be no doubt as to who is #1. If no one doubts that Alabama is the best team in the country this year, stop and crown them #1 right now. That's what we had in the old days.Only when there is some doubt, those one or two or three other teams should be playing in a Play Off. No talk of others deserving a chance.

But that would be 'leaving money on the table'. We live in a real world where the priority is not determining a national champion, it's on maximizing revenue potential and exposure, and minimizing any negatives.

12/05/2018 - 11:27pm Except that it hasn't been…

Except that it hasn't been proven that they don't belong. They haven't faltered. For two years now. They're scheduling difficulties are not entirely their fault: nobody wants to schedule stronger G5 teams nowadays.

A number of times in recent years, G5 teams have beaten pretty good P5 teams in bowl games, etc. Excluding half of the FBS from even having a shot is not good for the sport. It may end up with the #8 seed every year and have to face the #1 seed, but if that's the case, so be it.

12/05/2018 - 11:05pm Yes, keep as much of the FBS…

Yes, keep as much of the FBS in "the picture" as late in the season as possible. 

Here's the alterations I would add:

  • Top 4 get to play a home game a Friday/Saturday or two before Christmas
  • Rather than drawing #5-#8 randomly, allow the committee to select their opponent--considering geographical distance, avoiding rematches, as well as seeds, etc.
  • Put B1G and PAC champions on a track to play in Rose Bowl for semi-final; (SEC in Sugar, etc.)
  • Final in mid-January
12/05/2018 - 10:52pm So if Northwestern …

So if Northwestern ,Pittsburgh and Utah win they are all in the playoffs?

Yes. Win your division. Win your conference. Win your playoff game.

Otherwise those conference championships are really meaningless wastes of time.

12/05/2018 - 10:52pm So if Northwestern …

So if Northwestern ,Pittsburgh and Utah win they are all in the playoffs?

Yes. Win your division. Win your conference. Win your playoff game.

Otherwise those conference championships are really meaningless wastes of time.

12/05/2018 - 10:46pm Having a first round bye…

Having a first round bye would be an enormous benefit, 

 

That might be true, but having a first round game at home (in December) would be better for fans (especially students) and probably players as well.

12/05/2018 - 10:39pm Makes the regular season…

Makes the regular season matter all year long. 
 

Agree

 

If Notre Dame doesn't want to join a conference, they can go fuck themselves. 

 

I know there's a lot of ND hatred around here, but that's ridiculous. That's a non-starter. Can't force anyone to join (or stay in) a conference. ND means too much in terms of $$ and exposure for college football to exclude them.

12/04/2018 - 8:27am Seriously outmatched, but…

Seriously outmatched, but still hoping that Washington beats them in the Rose Bowl.

12/03/2018 - 1:19am Nope.
Like a lot of audio…

Nope.

Like a lot of audio content these days, it really needs a lot of work.

12/02/2018 - 10:04am Come on!
For twenty years,…

Come on!
For twenty years, we cursed the conference championshp games (especially the SEC) for what they are--a TV cash grab, and a way to sneak an extra team into a choice bowl game.

12/02/2018 - 3:58am I actually would like to see…

I actually would like to see that this year: the four undefeated teams. UCF versus Alabama in the first round. That would either shut them up for years, or if the miraculous occurs, would show that G5 teams can hang with P5 teams.

Oklahoma and Ohio State cancel each other out with their great QBs and offensese, suspect defense. To bad they can't play each other--first team to 100 wins!

Shutting three of the P5 conference champions out of the playoffs will bring an expanded playoffs (or blow up the whole thing) in no time.

 

11/30/2018 - 8:56pm Shea does not seem to see…

Shea does not seem to see the field well, and still needs work on his decision-making. He's gotten better, but is nowhere near NFL-ready.

11/30/2018 - 8:53pm Less than two years ago (Jan…

Less than two years ago (Jan/Feb 2017) the majority of this board was sure Beilein was hopeless, "the game has passed him by", etc. and wanted to see him gone.

The past few weeks, national media are calling him one of the best coaches in the game, and a likely HOF coach. 

Hot-takers need to remember: Patience. We are very, very lucky.

11/30/2018 - 8:53pm Less than two years ago (Jan…

Less than two years ago (Jan/Feb 2017) the majority of this board was sure Beilein was hopeless, "the game has passed him by", etc. and wanted to see him gone.

The past few weeks, national media are calling him one of the best coaches in the game, and a likely HOF coach. 

Hot-takers need to remember: Patience. We are very, very lucky.

11/29/2018 - 10:46pm Good luck on your finals

Good luck on your finals

11/29/2018 - 10:23pm Allow teams who did NOT play…

Allow teams who did NOT play in the post season additional practices in the spring.

11/29/2018 - 10:21pm So Illinois would be kicked…

So Illinois would be kicked out of the Big Ten and replaced by Northern Illinois? (Granted , I am sure there are those who would not mind Rutgers being replaced by Buffalo).

Another year, replace Maryland or Minnesota or Northwestern with Western Michigan or Ball State?
 

I'll bet faculty and other members of the CIC (not to mention BTN) would really love that.

11/29/2018 - 9:57pm Would that be a problem in…

Would that be a problem in the long run?

Even if the talent level was reduced somewhat uniformly 10-20% across the country? Would you still be interested in Michigan football if there was a parallel minor league for younger athletes who didn't want to "play school"? I would.

11/29/2018 - 9:52pm I totally agree that they…

I totally agree that they have been diminishing the value of the regular season and are hollowing out the sprort, The media, especially the media that broadcasts it--ESPN, Fox, etc. put all THEIR focus on the "playoff race", because that is an easier narrative for them to cover, create simplistic controversies, etc.  It reduces the meaning and dynamic of college football to an inferior version of a professional product.

It's sad. And those who were opposed to playoffs in the first place predicted this would happen. Unfortunately, since it probably can't be unwound, the best hope at this point actually is to embrace the idea of a playoff system that does include auto-bids, so that conference races, in different parts of the matter, matter longer in the regular season.  Instead of "Who's in the top 4, first two out?" ignoring all the rest, the narrative can at least be, "Who's still got a shot in the B1G, PAC12, BIG 12, ACC, SEC, and who's the best of the G5 and independents?"

11/29/2018 - 9:39pm Let the players unionize…

Let the players unionize. Negotiate for image rights, etc. that go into a collective pool for all scholarship players to cover long-term health insurance, advanced education, etc.

Schools sign each player to a standardized 5-year contract that includes an education scholarship and a reasonable stipend (the total value of which is not less than a full-time job, which it is). A player gets injured, he's covered. The NFL want him to come out early? They negotiate with the school to buy the rights to his contract, and then negotiate with him directly for the big payday.

 

11/29/2018 - 9:25pm So regular season should be…

So regular season should be cut back to allow for more of a playoff? Which is the priority, the regular season or the playoff (tournament)? The point of the sport is to get them in good shape for the pros?

I think college football needs to be what it has been traditionally been about--the regular season, prefrably on campus, with players playing in front of their fellow students and alumni. The post season is an add-on. The NFL doesn't need any more help.

The problem is not so much the number of games or the number of weeks in the season, but the interval to recover (especially in late season) is too short. Any post season (probably including conference champion games, if they are necessary, should include a bye week before them (i.e. at least two weeks apart) to allow student athletes to heal, be students. etc.
 

11/29/2018 - 9:03pm That would be an actual…

That would be an actual playoff, and truest to the desire to crown the national champion, aka best team in the country: to PLAY OFF only when the question is in doubt. It makes too much sense, and there'd be too much money left on the table. It would be a crime against capitalism!

11/29/2018 - 8:56pm #1 the college rule is fine …

#1 the college rule is fine (better) about stopping the clock temporarily on first downs (to move the sticks), out of bounds,

The games have gone over three hours because: more commercials; halftimes extended to 20 minutes; replays; longer injury time outs; and on of the largest factors rarely mentioned, more passing means more incomplete passes means much more stopping the clock.
So treat incomplete passes like out of bounds plays and first downs- get the ball, and start the clock when the ball is set. (I'd make it stop until snap the last 3 minutes of the half instead of two)

#2 or maybe spot foul plus 5 yards (and automatic first down) for anything under 15 yards. But there also has to be a maximum,

#3 while you're a it, maybe fix the negative sack yardage counting against run totals?

#4 is a bad idea, making the situation worse. More offense is fun, but not when it comes because the defense has no way of telling a pass from a run.

#5 I agree

11/29/2018 - 8:35pm The NFL gives college…

The NFL gives college football that long Labor Day weekend by not starting till the next weekend. College football would be stupid not to take advantage of that.

11/29/2018 - 8:33pm 25 scholarships per year…

25 scholarships per year hard limit, Eliminate the incentive to "process" players.

Allow FCS schools to go to bowl games if not enough FBS schools qualify.

11/29/2018 - 8:27pm I think the host sites…

I think the host sites prefer a Monday night as visitors are likely to spend more time (a few days) and $$ before the game than after. Also less interruption with school, etc. A Monday night game means most people traveling back on Tuesday and miss less work/school.

Networks can promote the game all weekend during their other sports programming. Less competition with other sports at that time as well.

11/29/2018 - 11:33am Eliminate the long (3+…

Eliminate the long (3+ minute) commercial breaks.
Any stoppage for replay or injury go to one-minute commercial, and show replay after returning.

11/29/2018 - 11:31am +1 on the inelegible…

+1 on the inelegible blocking downfield rule.

Also move the conversion line from the 3 to the 2-yard line.

11/29/2018 - 11:25am Several of the times…

Several of the times Michigan defenders were getting beat on the crosses was because tOSU were setting picks, and using the umpire as a screen--the receiver would run and break right in front of the umpire, forcing the defender to go around him to get to the receiver.

11/29/2018 - 11:21am One way (if you have enough…

One way (if you have enough players) is to run two offenses alternating against the defense.

11/29/2018 - 11:16am I like the college rule of…

I like the college rule of temporarily stopping the clock on first downs until the RFP signal. It's superior to the NFL rule. I would do the same for incomplete passes -- stop the clock until the RFP, on incomplete passes, runs out of bounds, and first downs, until the last three minutes of each half.  (It's the increased amount of passing and stopping the clock on incomplete passes that has made much longer and variable in length.

I would like to see more non-conference play, not less, so I would prefer to see a bunch of 8 team conferences with round robin schedules to determine champions.

If playoffs, 8, 12, or 16 teams (conference champions and limited number of at large teams). play games every two weeks (not one) beginning mid-December, with the first round or so on-campus.

 

11/29/2018 - 2:37am Stanford showed that playing…

Stanford showed that playing a different brand of football from your most important rival can be an advantage, both on the field, and in recruiting.

11/29/2018 - 2:33am In 2017 the WRs were not…

In 2017 the WRs were not very good at running routes, getting open, or fighting for the ball. The QB play was often poor, but receivers weren't helping them out much. If they didn't beat their counterpart immediately, they'd give up on the play. I see a lot of improvement (in DPJ  especially) this year which I hope will continue to develop).

There is still something not quite right (the routes that get run/stopped short of the line to gain are irksome), but it's a lot better than it was.

11/29/2018 - 12:10am One has to wonder if many…

One has to wonder if many the passing concepts they are using tell the QB to ignore middle of the field and only concentrate on one "outside-third" or  the other.

11/28/2018 - 11:58pm In our emotions, I think we…

In our emotions, I think we overreacted to the Ohio State game. Ohio State clearly played their best game of the season, Michigan played one of its worst. It was about a half a dozen plays or so on each side of the ball that made the difference in this game. {Man are the Buckeyes good at getting away with pick routes, especially in the red zone!}

Ohio State is fast and talented, but Michigan can and has played better this season. Michigan's OL had a mediocre game and Shea Patterson (and Gentry-ugh!) played poorly. A few nicely thrown balls, but many/most were not. Too many were late or behind the receiver. We would often see receivers running routes two yards short of the sticks or the pylon -- not sure if that is on them or by design -- but Shea wasn't leading them properly either. He was not seeing open receivers very well, and stepped into a couple of sacks.

I thought DPJ and Collins accorded themselves well, and wanted to see more of that 'fight' from the rest of the offense. Not sure whether Patterson has reached his ceiling yet -- let's hope not, especially if he comes back. I'd like to see more downfield shots boldness in the playcalling. It would also be nice if, when they did call a pass on 1st down, they didn't automatically follow that with a run on 2nd

11/28/2018 - 9:25pm Looking back at it, he…

Looking back at it, he certainly did himself no favors last Saturday. Failing to see open receivers, throwing the ball short, stepping into sacks -- it was definitely not his best game. He still needs a lot more work if he wants to be ready for the NFL.

11/28/2018 - 8:52pm Even if this is all true, it…

Even if this is all true, it only makes sense to make that a point of focus when you have a reasonable (50% or better) chance of winning that game, to make all the hard work pay off. Otherwise, you are just setting your players up for demoralization. Recruit better, and perform better in that game especially, and all will take care of itself.

11/28/2018 - 8:45pm "Harbaugh insists that every…

"Harbaugh insists that every game is equal"

 

That's only to the press, and what the coaches tell the players on other game weeks to keep the players focused on what is in front of them. I seriously doubt Jim Harbaugh lacks an understanding of the prime importance of The Game.

11/28/2018 - 8:38pm I'd like to see Michigan…

I'd like to see Michigan play ND every third year or so. '21, '24, '27, and so on. Enought to keep some sort of sense of rivalry, but spread out enough to make it special and make room on the schedule for other teams from other parts of the country.

11/28/2018 - 6:43pm Or how about a B1G/SEC or…

Or how about a B1G/SEC or ACC challenge the week before game 11? Top teams in each conference play the bottom teams in the other. (#1 play #14, #2 plays #13, etc.
Would love to see southern teams trying to playing northern teams in November.

11/28/2018 - 6:31pm I think this is quite smart…

I think this is quite smart actually, on their part. Get to rest starters who aren't healthy, play a lot of guys who don't play much on "Senior Day", and the possibility of a big score to look good and grab media/committe attention. I think the B1G out to adopt something similar, even (especially) if that means a couple of decent conference games in September.

11/28/2018 - 6:25pm No. They are great for…

No. They are great for players, fans, recruits, national media attention, and good for the game. Conference play is too insular, more so since it has been expanded.

G5 teams schedule P5 teams not just for the payday, but because playing these tough games (even getting their ass kicked) best show them where they are, and there they have to improve. With an insular conference like the B1G, it's good not to have to wait till the post-season to get any idea of the relative strength.

I am also glad Michigan will be play ND in October next year, as an interesting challenge and break from B1G play. I only wish the home and home rotation cycle was every two or three years, rather than consecutive years, to allow for more varied intersectional games in a rotation.

11/28/2018 - 9:06am Just had a chance to rewatch…

Just had a chance to rewatch.

Shea had a bad game: missed a lot of receivers, didn't see the field well, stepped up into sacks he could have escaped from or thrown to an open receiver or thrown away. Line missed a lot of blocks. Run plays: no misdirection (something Ohio State's LBrs are terrible at). The few times Michigan throws on first down, it will invariably run on second down.

11/27/2018 - 11:53pm Innovation is not the…

Innovation is not the problem, What we need is a multi-dimensional offense and the courage to threaten the defense wide, up the middle, deep, intermediate, and short on any given play. We need to be able to defeat lesser opponents, and those with superior talent.

Any "up and coming OC" will be up and gone in a year or two.

11/27/2018 - 11:22pm Winning TOP is a pretty good…

Winning TOP is a pretty good strategy when you are winning, or losing within one score.

What was irritating to many Michigan fans was how they were taking almost the full 40 seconds to get the play and get it off when they were losing by multiple scores with the clock running. Michigan was using three, four minutes and more only to give the ball back to Ohio State. Meanwhile, Ohio State was able to go all the way down and come away with points at the end of the half in within 41 seconds.

11/27/2018 - 11:15pm That's because the season…

That's because the season starts on August 31, and there are five Saturdays in November.

One of the byes is in November (good); the other is in September (too early IMO).

Wish we had a bye week between Penn State and Notre Dame. ND has a bye week before they play us (they play USC at home on 10/12.

11/27/2018 - 3:56pm Something was not right with…

Something was not right with Winovich or Gary. Both looked tentative, leery of contact. When they are healthy, they are borderline reckless, forcing QBs to step up (hopefully into pressure) or bail out, where the QB (especially Haskins) is less effective.

Winovich- shoulder? bruised ribs?
Gary- still shoulder? Saving it for the NFL?
 

And where were Paye and Uche?