Snowflake Thread: Offense Vs. Air Force

Submitted by LSAClassOf2000 on

This will be the repository for your thoughts and hot takes on the offense in our game against Air Force.

This should be fun. 

KennyGfanLMAO

September 16th, 2017 at 3:30 PM ^

It makes me wonder if the receivers last year made him look good by consistently getting open. There doesn't seem to be much separation with the receivers, which makes Speight have to make tough decisions. Turns out he's not the best decision maker.

gbdub

September 16th, 2017 at 4:21 PM ^

Uhh, how is "everybody is covered" a knock on his decision making? "Not real accurate into tight windows" is fair criticism, but if he were just eating sacks and/or throwing everything away he'd be getting ripped on for that too. Takes 2 people to complete a pass.

Ghost of Fritz…

September 16th, 2017 at 3:42 PM ^

defending Speight's performance so far this year, but...

Drevno offensive playcalling is atrocious, and is putting him in very bad down and distance situations.  And then Drevno often asks him to make harder throws than necessary when he obviously is not yet in-synch withn anyone but Grant Perry.

Speight has not been great.  But Drevno and the youth of the receiver corps is making it a lot worse.

Sten Carlson

September 16th, 2017 at 4:36 PM ^

I'd like to disagree re: Drevno's play calling (respectfully, and with no pinniped tendencies). If one reads the live blog, it "RUN THE BALL on 1st down!" but when runs it and gets 1 yard, then the "we've got talented WR's ... throw the ball ... but SPEIGHT SUCKS!" drums start to beat. Not that the live blog really means much. But, to me, that split personality is indicative of the troubles an OC has when the OL is under performing. Then, add into that an underperforming QB and ... well, what now? I do agree 100% with your final sentence.

lhglrkwg

September 16th, 2017 at 3:17 PM ^

If the offense can convert even half of their RZ trips into TDs then all of our games are comfortable wins. The offense sucks right now with the exception of Ty Isaac. I don't know what Pep / Drevno / Harbaugh are doing

lawlright

September 16th, 2017 at 4:08 PM ^

Disappearance of the FB usage too. By this time last year Khalid Hill had like 3 touchdowns. This season I just remembered he was still on the team when he picked up the first down on 3rd and 1. The play calling is bad considering returning weapons are not being utilized.

jabberwock

September 16th, 2017 at 8:47 PM ^

Hill is great in short yardage situations, but he has been used effectively catching longer passes before too.  He's not going to win a race to the endzone in space but he's got great hands and will bury the 1st Db that tries to tackle him.

Moar panda use please!

Gameboy

September 16th, 2017 at 3:18 PM ^

Look, Speight is not the most accurate passer, but there were 4 or 5 passes that hit both hands of the receiver and dropped. Theses guys need to help out Speight.

George Pickett

September 16th, 2017 at 3:36 PM ^

That's true, but it's impossible to deny that Speight was awful today.  He fumbled once, very nearly threw a pick at the goaline, overthew Crawford and Black by at least 5 yards in the endzone, and continued to miss wide open receivers throughout the game.  It wasn't all on him by any means, but he was bad.

coldnjl

September 16th, 2017 at 3:38 PM ^

agreed. He needs help but he is the leader at QB with a full season of experience and he should be expected to perform better and to overcome mistakes made by others. His play is literally the same as O'Korns was during the IU game...but he managed to score a TD when the game was in doubt

I Like Burgers

September 16th, 2017 at 3:58 PM ^

I'm not sure if either of those throws out of the back of the endzone were overthrows.  From what I remember neither receiver was that open, so they may have just been thrown out of the back of the endzone on purpose.

In general, gettting open seems to be a problem for this WR corps.

Gameboy

September 16th, 2017 at 5:04 PM ^

14 of 23 for 169 yeard is not awful. It is not great, but it is most certainly not awful. I don't get where people get the idea that every other QB hits every open target. The expectation for QB play is unrealistic around here. Speight was fine. He was under stress a lot and delivered some tough balls. You will not have a great a RZ rate until you can run the ball inside 20 yards.

Fezzik

September 16th, 2017 at 5:31 PM ^

We recruit top ten classes every year. We have arugably the best QB coach in the world. Our QB is an upper classmen with a full season of starting experience. He crushed inferior teams last season. But depsite all that we should be happy with average this year?  For whatever reason he has regressed but that does not mean we should lower the expectations of the most important position on the field. No one is expecting perfection but everyone needs to expect better than "not awful" and "fine."

Fezzik

September 16th, 2017 at 6:55 PM ^

So far the OL is close to as good/bad as last year. The receivers have had some drops. But Speight has 3 self-inflicted fumbles and a plethora of passes that just aren't even respectfully close to their target, many of them with solid protection.  All the 'Speight always makes the correct read' chatter is bologna.  Are you implying Speight needs a great O line and great receivers to perform well? If thats the case he is a game manager that will never win us games and hopefully won't lose any.

Sten Carlson

September 16th, 2017 at 7:12 PM ^

I'm a bit gunshy about debating ... but ... ... how many QB's (at any level) perform well with inexperienced OL's who are struggling to both protect and run block? Now take away your all your top/favorite WR's/TE and is it any surprise? It just looks to me like the OL is exposing WS's weaknesses and the whole offensive unit hasn't gelled yet. Will they? I don't know.

Tedbossman

September 16th, 2017 at 7:11 PM ^

He was the third best QB in the Big 10 last year, quaterbacked the offense that put up the most points of any Michigan team ever. And this year there's a whole new supporting cast that is extremely young. But because the offense isn't playing well its #BenchSpeight. Not looking at the changing variables, look at the constant from UMs best statsitical offense ever! To the point where people think Harbaugh is lying about being 100% Merritt based. What losers.

Gameboy

September 16th, 2017 at 5:09 PM ^

Then, you are clearly not paying attention.

The bomb to DPJ in the first quarter hit was slightly underthrown, which is the correct play as the CB was not looking back at all. All DPJ had to do was to stop and high point and he would have made an easy catch or get PI. He didn't and the ball still hit both of his hands and dropped.

Tarik Black had a ball in the right fly pattern. The CB again was not paying any attention and over-ran the play, the ball hit both of his hands and dropped.

There were others.

WallyWallace

September 16th, 2017 at 3:58 PM ^

Harbaugh had his chance in 2015 and handpicked Peters, who enrolled early and has been through 2 camps and can't crack 3rd string. He also 'chose' John O Korn, from which there may have been other transfer options available. Not sure who else we could've got or were in the running for but each at this point seems like a misstep.

I Like Burgers

September 16th, 2017 at 4:02 PM ^

Have you considered that having a redshirt freshman QB in charge of an offense filled with freshman and sophomores is perhaps a bad idea?  That's what Harbaugh's whole "command of the offense" quote regarding Peters was about.  QB has to know exactly what everyone is supposed to be doing out there, and Peters clearly doesn't.  Otherwise, you'd be seeing him.