Snowflake Thread: Offense Vs. Air Force

Submitted by LSAClassOf2000 on

This will be the repository for your thoughts and hot takes on the offense in our game against Air Force.

This should be fun. 

war-dawg69

September 16th, 2017 at 5:16 PM ^

Well you could probably just ask him if his offensive coaching staff or himself even bother coaching the offense. I mean Coach Harbaugh why does your defense look so competent and your offense looks likea complete fucking joke against a service academy. Coach Harbaugh do you coach your offensive lineman to get zero push against d-lineman giving up anywhere between thirty and sixty pounds. Coach Harbaugh why is your offense softer than butter and do coaches Frey and Drevno  even hold there o-lineman accountable for getting man handled by men the size of most teams linebackers. Coach Harbaugh is Don Brown the only one who shows up to practice. COACH HARBAUGH ......WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT YOUR PUTRID OFFENSE AND PLAY CALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Coach Harbaugh you do understand there are two sides to football. Ya Coach Harbaugh I can see your getting pissed so just nod your head.

Cali's Goin' Blue

September 16th, 2017 at 7:22 PM ^

Do you think Harbaugh is a bad offensive coach? It seems like you do, but all evidence from his last 10 years of coaching at college and the NFL is evidence otherwise. It seems a little crazy to get this frustrated by a game in which we still won and the offense got into the red zone 4 times. I'm not saying it was a good coaching performance but that line of questioning makes me think you think Harbaugh is a bad coach, which is completely irrational. 

Sten Carlson

September 16th, 2017 at 8:31 PM ^

In Wichita Wolverine's defense, I've been pushing some of my comments over the line of late, and I apologized to the General and Born in AA. It was inappropriate of me and I think that is what he's reacting to in calling me a complete jackass, not so much the regression comment. That said, don't see regression and am happy to debate the point. The issues arose because of that debate ... at least I think. I think I asked a fair question, and it seems some others agree, while others don't. I try to be a rational poster, but I feel like discussions have devolved into personal battles, unfortunately.

CHUKA

September 16th, 2017 at 4:26 PM ^

... because he's the head coach? You don't think he holds responsibility for the outcome of a game? That's really not even the main thing disappointing me. It's the fact that a mediocre Speight is the best option after 3 years with our "QB Guru".

KSmooth

September 16th, 2017 at 3:55 PM ^

Forgive me for picking a nit, but I don't know if I'd call that a garbage time TD.  AFA would have needed a TD and a field goal to win -- not likely in a minute and a half but crazier things have happened.  Bottom line: if I were coaching I'd have my first string offense out there to add points or run out the clock just to be sure.

Agree on everything else though.  We shouldn't have needed that TD.

Fezzik

September 16th, 2017 at 5:03 PM ^

I personally consider it garbage time due to the fact it was 100% obvious we were going to run the ball in order to run out the clock.  The D knew this and sold out to stop the inside run. This made a bounce wide open and Higdon did great to take advantage of it. The game was over whether Higdon falls down in the back field or scores, aka garbage time.

ShadowStorm33

September 17th, 2017 at 1:34 PM ^

Whether it's truly garbage time or not doesn't really matter. When we got the touchdown, AF got the ball back down two scores with just a minute left and no time outs. While the win was almost locked up, AF did have a small chance to tie it up and send it to OT. Per game theory, Higdon actually should have slid down after getting the first down. Let the clock run down, take one knee, and game over. In that situation, AF's only chance would be a fumble on the kneel down, a much smaller chance than they ended up with. So the TD was actually harmful per the numbers...

Tyrone Biggums

September 16th, 2017 at 6:42 PM ^

Y'all are fucking crazy. Some Michigan fans are the most bipolar people in existence. It wasn't pretty but we won. Isn't that what Harbaugh is paid to do, win? I'm sure Warde is dieing to hear your opinion on how to fix the program because Harbaugh is terrible.

Ghost of Fritz…

September 16th, 2017 at 3:16 PM ^

is the biggest problem.

Why not call plays that take what D is giving?  AF was selling out to stop the inside run, so Dreveno kept calling the inside run.  Reminded me of the Carr era (but worse). 

D was very good, except 1 bust.

Ghost of Fritz…

September 16th, 2017 at 3:35 PM ^

was arguably worse.

Just like today, the Carr era has OCs that would stubbornly stick to a plan decided on Wednesday before the game, refused to realize that the opposing D is daring you to deviate from your completely predictable base play (especially on 1st down), refused to take the easy gains the opposing D was given, etc.

OTOH, Carr always had QBs that were very good and could bail him out.

Now, on D, what we have now is WAY better than the Carr era.  Carr's D coordinators never figured out how to deal with mobile QBs. 

BursleyBaitsBus

September 16th, 2017 at 3:16 PM ^

The offense better not have any helmet stickers outside of Ty Isaac. Wilton Speight is not good enough to be a QB at Michigan. Full stop. 

 

Commie_High96

September 16th, 2017 at 4:26 PM ^

our top receiver is a sophomore with bricks for hands, our offensive line gave him little protection and the play calling was better at my 6 year old's flag football game, but yes, it's all on Speight. He's no Joe Montana, but he's good enough if everything else is good enough Today was us being haunted by the ghosts of Dave Brandon and Al Borges.

CLord

September 16th, 2017 at 5:28 PM ^

Split hairs if you will, but nothing excuses Speight going on three weeks now of throwing balls into one on one coverage out of bounds, not even giving his 6'3" receivers a chance to make a play or get a PI call.  Did it again more than once today.  Awful.  

 

Prince Lover

September 16th, 2017 at 4:55 PM ^

He had two very good throws on third and long, one caught, one dropped, both throws were not horrific. I would say the play calling was more horrific than Speight was today. Either way, both need to dramatically improve before next week. Go Nlue!

coldnjl

September 16th, 2017 at 3:34 PM ^

At the end of the day, it is his job to score TDs, not throw the ball above or behind the wide reciever, nor simply just out of bounds. This should have been a team he could score 1 TD while the game was still in doubt. He can show leadership with a young offense. He could audible out of an obviously dead draw play. Congrats...he didn't throw a single INT. Still a garbage game, which is no longer a one-off performance

gbdub

September 16th, 2017 at 4:17 PM ^

I only saw one good chance to make a play in the red zone that he missed, the one where he threw it in front of a breaking WR. Even there, the thow wasn't that bad (would have been caught if the WR broke a hair earlier), and he was rushed by pressure. Otherwise Speight basically got crappy opportunities and failed to create miracles.

Yeah, he threw a fade to Black (heh) OOB, but that play was covered and super-low percentage even if the throw was on target. Other than that throw, did he have any other throws to Tacopants? Seemed like he improved on that at least.

In the game thread, there were posters ripping on Speight for throwing a screen pass to Black (who was immediately tackled) as if the playcall was his fault. WTF?

It's pretty clear at this point that a segment of the fanbase has determined everything is Speight's fault, and will interpret reality in whatever way necessary to maintain that narrative.

What I saw all game was well-covered receivers and a lot of pressure - both of which are disturbing against AF (and neither of which are on Speight). Frankly his worst decision all game was running OOB and losing yards instead of throwing it away, and that's a brain fart but hardly a game killer.

It sure would be nice if everything were Speight's fault... but unfotunately this was a failure by the entire O, coaches included. Except for poor damn Isaac, who deserved 2 TDs.

war-dawg69

September 16th, 2017 at 5:41 PM ^

He can't gain seperation and catch the fuckin ball. More importantly he can't and should not gain 100 pounds and move someone off the ball. The thing is if you run a pro style offense, the very first thing you do in recruiting is secure one of the best gunslingers in high school. One hundred and fifty percent on Harbaugh. The real NFL quality QB's should be running to Michigan, but....................................................nooooo. I will cut the line some slack because air force wa selling out to stop the run but so what. You are supposed to be bigger and stronger. Minus Cole are o-line are straight out weak. We should have exploted the constant blitzing but our coordinators don't have a clue. I have become reasonably sure we only coach Defense at Michigan. It is like a reverse Rich Rod thing. Speight might not be Johnny Unitas but our o-line is flat out weak and soft...minus Mason Cole. The rest should not be playing at Michigan. One all big ten and the rest ........ nothing but mac level. Crawford can't catch anything contested and should be passed as young guys come along. Don't really know what is wrong with our offense, but except for long runs it is flat out worthless and we will start racking up the losses just like last year. Why the fuck isn't Ian Bunting playing?. Don't like our offensive coaching staff, but hey maybe it is Harbaugh and we would be doing much better with a different QB. Peters could be good but who ever heard of a introverted QB.

ColeIsCorky

September 16th, 2017 at 11:28 PM ^

If Speight isn't good enough to be a QB at Michigan, then we currently do not have a QB good enough right now. Peters isn't the answer. O'Korn isn't the answer. Morris isn't the answer (half joke).

I am not near as pessimistic about Speight as most of the board, but even if I have to take the stance that Speight isn't good enough, is that entirely Harbaugh's fault? He wasn't exactly given a good QB depth chart coming in. 

My biggest fear about Speight's performances is that there's a bunch of idiots who will be doing their absolute best to make sure Speight knows how they feel about his performance. Which, honestly, despite the fact that it's extremely idiotic, how in the world is that supposed to help Speight play better?