OT-Game of Thrones S6 E5
Did you see the look on Varys face when the red priestess told him he had nothing to worry about if he was a true friend to the Queen? Something in his expression says he has something to worry about.
Based on book storylines that would be one HELL of a narrative shift.
Which isn't to say that your theory is a bad one as the show and the books have definitely diverged, but it feels like the basic notes are still in place and betraying Dany doesn't feel like a part of Varys' endgame.
With Young Griff perhaps being a Blackfyre, that makes a certain amount of sense, but even so, given the Targaeryen marital.........traditions Varys'd still be self interested in keeping Dany alive and in power to present the strongest possible match.
Interesting angle, but I still have a hard time buying Varys not acting with Dany's interests(even if not necessarily best interests) in mind.
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It's a time loop. Bran, trapped back in time (since he can't control his powers or whatever and Max Von Sydow is dead) has to warg "Past Hodor" in order to get to "Present Hodor." As such, "Past Hodor" experiences everything Bran had "Present Hodor" do (particularly his own death while Meera was yelling "hold the door!"), which emotionally traumatizes him to the point that he can't do anything but repeat that phrase over and over for the rest of his life.
I'm not sure Bran is trapped, but more that he loses himself in the events of the past and so far lacks the will/discipline to pull himself away. The old man warned him about spending too much time in - let's say "otherwhen" - because he could lose himself and not get back.
He's not ready, but he better learn fast.
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Howland Reed is still alive and was at the Tower of Joy.
Reed as the High Sparrow doesn't make sense to me. HS looks way older than Reed would be (which I'm assuming would have been around Ned's age)
He doesn't appear in the first 5 books at all, because he has no reason to. He's the local ruler of the Neck, and that's where he stays. His military forces have an active conflict with the ironmen for most of the time period of the first 5 books.
How can you say Howland Reed "has no reason to" show up or make his presence felt at all through this point of the story IF he's the only living person that knows Jon Snow's true parentage?!
I mean, if he's fighting the Iron Born and they'd taken over Winterfell for some time, he's got a lot of reason to get involved, right? How would he not have joined Robb's army?
And if he's never appeared in the books, there's no evidence even he knows Jon's parentage. I only point this out as I posted that without the time travel there's no one who can even know - much less prove - that Jon is the product of R+L. Soneone countered that Reed knows.
Or have I missed something? Only read 1st book, so at this point of the story I only know what's in the show, or that readers post on here. I don't think he's going to suddenly appear as some resolution to any extant thread by this point, at least not in the show.
Who knows WTF Martin's gonna do?!
There's no reason for the crannogmen to join Robb in the open field when the banners are called. They're notorious guerilla fighters. A battlefield is not the place for them.
And they may not have been mentioned, but I wouldn't be surprised if some crannogmen were part of scout teams and the such when the North needed to be stealthy. But there's little reason for the ruler of the Neck to be involved in those things.
Howland Reed is Lord of the Greywater Watch, which is very swampy. It doesn't produce knights or heavy infantry. Neither is it good terrain for invaders with such. Reed was a friend of Ned Stark, and aided Robb to the extent of making it rough going for any Lannister troops in his territory, so they'd rather go around.
Thanks to both bacon & bleed for the info on Reed. It clarifies why he wouldn't join Robb in the field, but says nothing about whether he knows R+L=J, which my point in this is if he did he'd have great reason to get involved. Send more than Jojen & Meera to aid Bran, he'd send people or even just a damn Raven to someone.
I just believe the DBs have decided to leave Reed (and ColdHands, who has been mentioned in this thread) out of the story altogether. It will take Bran's time travel to reveal Jon's parentage, and then will his knowledge affect outcomes like his control of Wyllis did? And the whole time loop element - is this strictly show created? nothing from the books about this?
I guess most centrally, can he go back and get the Children to not create the Walkers in the first place? Then everything changes.....
While I'd be less surprised if he didn't show up in the show than I'd be if he didn't in the books, I think that as long as Meera is alive, there's a great chance we meet him at some point. That doesn't mean he necessarily knows about Jon's parentage, but if R+L=J, how did Ned get him back to Winterfell? Stick him in a sack for the whole ride home from the Tower of Joy? If R+L=J and Jon is in the ToJ, then Howland Reed most certainly knows the details of Jon's parentage.
It makes sense too because as far as we know, Ned and Reed haven't been in the same place at the same time since ToJ.
And I don't think we see Bran changing the course of the future or past. I don't believe this time travel creates alternate timelines, just continuous loops of certain events. Hodor is the way he is because Bran would need someone with brute strength that could follow orders to get him to the Three Eyed Raven. Bran may have created Hodor, but that's because it was destiny and what needed to happen. Future Bran created it for present Bran who will in turn commit the same act when he gets to the weirwood.
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Exactly, Bran only needs to go back to his peeping of the ToJ to learn the truth... Especially if another theory involving the tower is true. Don't think I can be less vague without getting spoilery though.
but if they turn a low magic/high politics fantasy epic into a psuedo science fiction time looping story that uses magic insted of science, I'd be disappointed.
I did some YouTube scanning yesterday. I think some of my favorite parts of the entire series were watching Rob do his thing, and especially watching Tyrion as hand; or Tyrion and Varus play off against one another.
Having all that be caused/kicked off/influenced by Time Travelling Bran would kind of undercut that story for me.
I get that there's a lot of story to tell, but some of the plots so far just seem so thin. Trying to tell too many stories in a short amount of time.
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is being Sansa again. I hope Jon uses her to temper his sword
Are we seriously not doing phrasing anymore?
"Half-Brother" -LittleFinger
Seems that it had that effect on a lot of people. But I was more upset that another wolf died. Stop killing the fucking wolves!
It has probably not occured to her (being new to scheming) that Littlefinger has the knights of the Vale in his back pocket. It will almost certainly be the obvious twist that helps the good guys against the Boltons however.
She should have played along with Littlefinger and gotten him to bring the Vale troops north, then given him the you-suck speech in front of Yohn Royce and all the other Vale leaders after they dispose of the Boltons.
I don't think Bran can change the past.
"The past is already written. The ink is dry." Time travel in ASOIAF follows Novikov's Self-Consistency Principle, which posits that there is only one timeline, and people who go in the past to change the past have already changed the past and that it was destined to happen all along.https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/4knqo7/spoilers_extended_time_…
By changing the past Bran has in fact set things in motion, as opposed to just leaving well enough alone. So while whatever happened, happened it also happened because Bran changes it.
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Whatever Bran has done, is already done in the present.
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Its like in Lost. Whatever has happened, has happened.
It's crazy that we are already half way through this season...silver lining is we are 5 weeks closer to kickoff.
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Ooohh.... There was also a line from Sansa about being used to produce an heir. Good catch. I took the line as she can she figuratively feel/remember the assault.
But, your interpretation is much more dynamic and brings up some big questions and issues.
the Bolton lands.
Bran gets Winterfel, Sansa gets the Dreadfort?
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You'd feel that for a long time too if it happened to you.