Is John O'Korn The Great Hope?
Next year's defense is going to be great, right? Our OL is mostly back, and there's even cautious optimism that Cole might be able to fill right in at center with Newsome moving to LT, and one of our RBs (or a future 5-star RB, hypothetically) will surely be able to have a strong season next year.
Our receivers are good but not great, but the play on the field has clearly shown that Harbaugh and Drevno know how to draw up plays that will get them open. They just need someone to get them the ball.
...It sounds to me like we're a QB away from being a serious playoff contender next season. Like, really serious, preseason top 5 type. But it doesn't look like it will be Shane, with mounting whisper evidence that he may transfer. Wilton Speight made a couple of plays but there's no evidence that he's anything other than a career backup here. And it's not clear yet what Zach Gentry will be--Angelique Chengelis (who I like) took a vague non-denial by Tim Drevno and turned it into a story suggesting that Gentry may switch positions.
That leaves us with transfer John O'Korn. I saw one or two people in isolated threads say that they heard he looks good in practice, but we hear that about hundreds of guys. He does have a year of experience starting at Houston, with promising but mixed results. But, really, we know nothing about what he will be on the field in a Michigan uniform.
There's a lot riding on this. Anyone know what to expect?
November 6th, 2015 at 1:15 PM ^
November 6th, 2015 at 3:53 PM ^
We'll see how Hoke did on those LB recruits. Up until know our LB play has been dominated by 3 star RRod recruits in Morgan and Ryan. Bolden and Ross got a lot of playing time but neither of them have been super impressive.
November 6th, 2015 at 12:52 PM ^
on paper in the QB department. Someone's going to emerge, I can feel it. Solid OL is going to be nice to have. Wishing for some more wide receivers. I hope Ways has some Mo' to show us. Also hope Isaac can get out of the doghouse and out of the fumblerooski business because he's potentially got one more year past Smith and Green.
Also, Peppers.
November 6th, 2015 at 1:09 PM ^
Another example of a reporter having the story written first and asking questions to prompt answers that fit their angle.
November 6th, 2015 at 2:15 PM ^
to an NCAA investigation
November 6th, 2015 at 1:10 PM ^
is the Shane's transferring/ not as good as O'Korn based on insider knowledge or practice news or is it just based on guesses/ film from last year? I'm not an insider and have no original sources and am just curious. Thanks!
November 6th, 2015 at 1:27 PM ^
The transferring whispers are based on the redshirt and falling behind Speight. The O'Korn being better point is all based on insider knowledge, I'd imagine. I've read that O'Korn would have been the starter if he was eligible, but I don't know how true that is.
November 6th, 2015 at 2:11 PM ^
I read that too and wasn't O'Korn selected for the Manning passing camp (or something like that, while the other Michigan QBs were passed over)?
November 6th, 2015 at 3:22 PM ^
November 6th, 2015 at 1:43 PM ^
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November 6th, 2015 at 2:01 PM ^
I'm really hoping he stays at QB. His size and athletic ability are the most impressive of the QB's next year IMO. Of course, the big question is can he become a field general at QB who can make the right decisions. Only time will tell. If he can't, then I suppose a switch to TE could be the best thing.
November 6th, 2015 at 2:12 PM ^
Peters is starting school in January and he seems to be M's best QB prospect since Mallett or Henne. From what I've seen and read, he's also a camp rat and is really serious about developing his skills.
Whoever it ends up being, QB play should be an upgrade from this year.
November 6th, 2015 at 2:23 PM ^
Harbaugh's offense is not a plug-and-play offense. It is compelx scheme with a lot of shifts, fornations, etc. Too much for a true freshman.
If Peters is starting next year Michigan is going to be a 8-4 team.
November 6th, 2015 at 10:00 PM ^
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November 6th, 2015 at 2:20 PM ^
I find this thread to be stupid.
and yes, I bothered to post that
November 6th, 2015 at 2:37 PM ^
I'm bullish on O'Korn. He had a good first season as a true freshman starter playing in a pass-happy offense. His struggles began when Houston switched coordinators. I think he'll be much better than Rudock.
November 6th, 2015 at 2:46 PM ^
I only think of Jimmy Crack Corn.
November 6th, 2015 at 5:06 PM ^
are you OK?
November 6th, 2015 at 5:18 PM ^
November 6th, 2015 at 3:06 PM ^
Amazing the lack of love Speight has gotten and continues to get from this fanbase.
Led us to a victory last weekend during nut cutting time with no other options after looking over matched early on. I'm not sure that Rudock would've done the same thing.
November 6th, 2015 at 3:52 PM ^
November 6th, 2015 at 5:07 PM ^
November 6th, 2015 at 3:59 PM ^
The great hope is that we have like 6 guys competing for the job. Someone out of O'Korn, Speight, Morris, Gentry, Malzone and Peters is going to win the job. With that many guys competing, and with all but Peters being here for at least a year absorbing the system, and with Peters planning to enroll early IIRC, the end result is probably at least going to be decent.
November 6th, 2015 at 4:25 PM ^
Jim Harbaugh, the quarterback whisperer, is the great hope of Michigan.
O'Korn will have a year of JH coaching under his belt and his experience gives him an edge. However, there will be a stable full of eager and hardworking young guys who all believe they will be the starter.
Our problem, which is not a problem, will be having hyper talented quarterbacks fighting each other tooth and nail for the job.
Let the games begin!
November 6th, 2015 at 4:44 PM ^
November 6th, 2015 at 6:05 PM ^
November 6th, 2015 at 6:30 PM ^
Ultimately, it all comes back to the run game. The day Michigan is able to run the ball again is when we'll really have something. Maybe getting to play in the same system for a second straight year (they're on their third OC in three years) will help the OL.
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November 6th, 2015 at 8:35 PM ^
has been disappointing. I would be surprised if Ty transfers at the end of the year. I hope he does not since the guy has talent.
November 6th, 2015 at 9:58 PM ^
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November 6th, 2015 at 8:27 PM ^
next season will be an upgrade over Rudock, but I think Rudock has done a good job even though I was hoping his passing accuracy would have been better. The competition will be fierce. Morris will probably transfer is he does not compete well with the others during spring practice. Though, he could surprise everyone and be the best QB going into next summer. My guess is that it will be O'korn. He's learning the offense this season and has the experience of starting that the others do not have. My guess is O'korn will start again in 2017, which may help the offense score more points to help out a young defense. You will not hear Harbaugh making excuses about youth and I still think Harbaugh will have this team in contention for 2017. 2018 through 2020 should be exciting with a good defense and Peters leading an offense that will score a lot of points. 2019 is Harbaugh 4th season and I expect him to make it into the playoffs though we may have to deal with more 8-9 win seasons in 2016 and 2017.
November 6th, 2015 at 8:51 PM ^
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November 7th, 2015 at 1:58 AM ^
November 7th, 2015 at 8:18 AM ^
who gives a damn about great hopes? People were clamoring for the 'great hope' Drew Henson over Tom Brady and it wasn't especially helpful.
Perhaps the best thing to do is to wait who convinces the coaches and then gets the job..Like any of us are really in the position to know who will be the best QB on the team 10 months from now.
November 7th, 2015 at 8:34 AM ^
Since I've seen only Wilton and Shane play a college game I'll go with Wilton. O'Korn did compete in a conference not known for much in the way of defense. I would not rule out a freshman. Obviously it happens. How about Vicious Vic V.?