OT: Huge Brawl at the End of the Kansas-Kansas State Game
Whoa. This was awful. Malice at the Palace, Part 2.
Don't know how to embed video but click to see it HERE.
January 21st, 2020 at 9:23 PM ^
This is bad by college standards but not even close to Malice at the Palace.
January 21st, 2020 at 9:27 PM ^
how is it not?
Edit: just rewatched the Palace brawl, I'm wrong lol
January 21st, 2020 at 9:38 PM ^
At Malice in the Palace, players went into the crowd and fought fans.
January 21st, 2020 at 9:38 PM ^
Seriously dude?
January 21st, 2020 at 9:38 PM ^
I'm guessing because there was no violence involving fans, which does make this not nearly as bad.
January 21st, 2020 at 9:38 PM ^
I challenge you to rewatch the end of that Pistons-Pacers game to jog your memory and then watch this again. This was about a 5 on the chaos meter. The night at the Palace was an 11.
January 21st, 2020 at 10:06 PM ^
In this, the Kansas dude picks up a chair and it gets pulled away. In the Palace, fans were literally pulling chairs out of their anchors to throw them at players. Also, I know the first guy who got jacked in the face by Stephen Jackson (brother of a friend from high school), so that's another difference.
January 21st, 2020 at 11:50 PM ^
Is your buddy Jon Green, the douche bag who threw the cup at Artest? If so he deserved to get KO’d.
January 22nd, 2020 at 12:46 AM ^
As a matter of fact, he is not, but Ron Artest and Stephen Jackson thought he was.
He was actually an innocent dude who really, really regretted his expensive tickets that night. If you knew your Malice history, you’d recall that the charging pacers actually went after the wrong guys who just happened to be in the vicinity.
January 22nd, 2020 at 5:24 AM ^
Ron Artest didn’t have to 1) tell Ben Wallace he was going to “take him down” minutes before a flagrant foul, and 2) lay on the scorers table like a DB. Guy should not have thrown anything toward him but screw Ron Artest.
January 22nd, 2020 at 9:04 AM ^
Didn't the guy that threw the cup (Jon Green?) at Artest end up becoming buddies with Artest and doing charity work with them together?
January 22nd, 2020 at 9:17 AM ^
Life is interesting and each of us are informed by our individual experiences. I worked as a pediatric nurse for more than a few years at Peyton Manning Children's Hospital...in Indy. Ron Artest was our most-liked, favorite celebrity visitor to our kids-he was such a delight...so gracious, humble and engaging. And just as counter-intuitively, Peyton was an ass.
January 22nd, 2020 at 10:29 AM ^
It just still bugs me that, on balance, Ron Artest was the most responsible for that entire melee all things considered, but somehow has almost been remembered as a "victim" in all of it. Don't commit a flagrant with 40 seconds left. Don't lay on the scorer's table in between team benched. When you get something thrown at you, have perspective that nothing would have hit you if you had just walked away back to the bench after Wallace retaliated and that you can't punch a spectator. It is always "Ben Wallace freaked out." Or "the guy that threw the cup had it coming" and "damn those Detroit fans."
No, Ron Artest acted like a five year old and that is the proximate cause of the Malice at the Palace.
/End rant. I do believe you that he was gracious and engaging at the hospital, though.
January 22nd, 2020 at 12:47 PM ^
Always interesting. On a side note, if you talk to PGA volunteers almost all of them will praise John Daly on how great he is with kids that seek autographs from him during practice rounds
January 22nd, 2020 at 10:33 AM ^
January 22nd, 2020 at 11:01 AM ^
The guy who threw the drink did the Pistons a huge favor - it provoked all the key Pacer players into flipping out and getting themselves suspended. It crippled the Pistons' main rival in the East.
January 22nd, 2020 at 12:14 PM ^
Uhhhh. While I am not the man, I am definitely friends with that one who threw the drink. Definitely under the influence. Lifetime palace ban. And a lot of days in court. It was no joke.
Edit: oops. Not the guy who hit arrest with the drink. My friend through the cup at ONeal in the aisle and got laid out cold.
January 21st, 2020 at 10:38 PM ^
For your viewing pleasure
January 22nd, 2020 at 1:47 AM ^
That is absolutely wild. I have never seen this before, so thank you for sharing.
January 22nd, 2020 at 5:50 AM ^
Man it's been a loooong time since I watched that. I had forgotten it was basically over before the idiot in the crowd ramped tossed his drink down. What a moron
January 22nd, 2020 at 7:57 AM ^
Yeah fuck that asshole. I hope he got banned from NBA games for life.
Fun fact: one of the refs during that game was Tim Donaghy. Wonder if he had money riding on it.
January 21st, 2020 at 9:39 PM ^
Malice was a brutal and widespread fight between multiple players and fans. It spilled deep into the stands, included extreme violence, went on FOREVER, spread all over the place, and threatened to turn an entire arena into a cage-match.
Aside from the chair, which wasn't actually used, tonight's fight was fairly garden variety by NBA brawl standards. A few punches were thrown and a couple guys got knocked down. But mostly it was a bunch of guys posturing. And it was contained and over within a minute or two.
January 22nd, 2020 at 10:54 AM ^
What is crazy about the Malice at the Palace was that a lot of those players/coaches on those two teams, specifically, were very close through different degrees of past involvement. Carlisle was the Pistons' coach only a year and a half before that and had coached most of those players. Larry Brown was kind of iconic to the Pacers and had coached Reggie Miller and other Pacers still on that team. Rasheed Wallace was good friends with a number of Pacers, Rip Hamilton and Steven Jackson were also friends, and those are two guys who were largely on the outskirts of the action until the end, and it appeared they were actually the ones ramping each other up. It was a case where I think familiarity made the emotions stronger in the entire situation, including with the fans.
One other interesting note about that incident, Tashuan Prince is the only player or coach that never left the bench, not once, not even when fans and players were fighting right behind him. Just stood there and looked at everybody like "ya'll are CRAZY."
January 21st, 2020 at 9:41 PM ^
Dude it was not bad at all. Just some bitch slaps and wild punches. The Kansas player when he stood over him was prolly like "you shouldn't a been talking shit" haha!.
The Palace fight was way worse. If you think this was bad, you have been sheltered my man.
January 22nd, 2020 at 9:14 AM ^
After re watching the Palace brawl, I agree it was worse. But I've been watching college basketball for years and don't remember a brawl like this. Maybe I am sheltered, I don't belong to any fight clubs
January 21st, 2020 at 11:02 PM ^
How is it? You serious?
January 21st, 2020 at 9:39 PM ^
It looked like some Kansas guys were swinging at some fans, hence the Malice at the Palace comparison.
January 21st, 2020 at 9:42 PM ^
Not even close lol. That was nothing compared to the Malice. That was a shoving match.
January 21st, 2020 at 10:07 PM ^
I was at Malice at the Palace. i know Malice at the Palace. This was no Malice at the Palace.
To call it as such insults the memory of that magnificent, beer-and-popcorn tossing night.
January 21st, 2020 at 10:22 PM ^
I was there, with Jack Kennedy.
January 21st, 2020 at 9:26 PM ^
Better be some suspensions there.
January 22nd, 2020 at 11:08 AM ^
Just give Kansas Basketball the death penalty. I won't miss them.
January 21st, 2020 at 9:27 PM ^
At one point, De Sousa was holding a stool above his head. Good thing he never actually swung it.
January 21st, 2020 at 9:30 PM ^
He should be suspended for the rest of the season.
January 21st, 2020 at 9:49 PM ^
For what picking a chair up? No he shouldn’t. His teammates are in the stands he has no idea if they’re being attacked by who. He sees nothing and does nothing.
January 21st, 2020 at 10:22 PM ^
That, or you know, the multiple punches thrown, the kicking a player on the ground type stuff
January 21st, 2020 at 10:58 PM ^
There was no innocence involved whatsoever when he picked up the chair, he's damn lucky someone behind him saw what he potentially was going to do with that chair and immediately knocked it out of his hands.
He's likely in jail for aggravated assault if not for the preventive actions of someone else.
January 22nd, 2020 at 7:14 AM ^
Yes, for picking a chair up, especially during a fight that he instigated. Season ban minimum.
January 22nd, 2020 at 9:34 AM ^
If he has no idea if his teammates are being attacked, he probably shouldn't be preparing to throw random chairs into the crowd.
January 21st, 2020 at 9:27 PM ^
Annnnnd Bill Self remains comfortably employed
January 21st, 2020 at 9:29 PM ^
Bad by college standards.
However, Malice at the Palace is the the GOAT sports fight.
January 21st, 2020 at 9:42 PM ^
Nolan Ryan blood fucking Robin Ventura was good also.
January 21st, 2020 at 10:02 PM ^
“Blood fucking” is now in my dictionary. I thank you.
January 21st, 2020 at 10:08 PM ^
I always thought that was more a violent noogie.
January 21st, 2020 at 10:21 PM ^
Yea Malice is the best, but there’s an excellent video of the Boston Bruins going into the stands to beat up drunk fans who thought they could take on professional athlete who, in part, fight for a living.
January 21st, 2020 at 10:46 PM ^
YEP! I've never fully figured out embedding videos on this site, but all one needs to do is search "Mike Milbury shoe" and the video comes up.
And as to why shoe is involved in the search --- Milbury was one of the Bruins who was in the stands. He grabbed a fan, took off the fan's shoe, and literally whacked the guy upside the head with it!
January 21st, 2020 at 10:27 PM ^
Nope, Red Wings vs Avs 1997 was by far the best sports fight.
January 21st, 2020 at 10:34 PM ^
^^^WINNER
January 22nd, 2020 at 12:21 AM ^
If I live to be a thousand years old I will never tire of watching Brendan Shanahan fucking level Patrick Roy when he attempted to intervene in the McCarty beat down on Lemieux.