Waaaaay OT: Def Leppard in the R&R Hall of Fame
And suddenly, for a moment, all is right with the world!
But Janet Jackson in before Whitney Houston? I don't think so, Tim!
Oh, and Radiohead got in, too. Cool.
December 13th, 2018 at 12:52 PM ^
Wasn't comparing them. Was a short comment that they on their own, being as influential as they were, that they should be there
December 13th, 2018 at 1:35 PM ^
I would say No Way on Boston.
One very good debut record followed by a bunch of crap.
Don't Look Book was essentially an EP.
December 13th, 2018 at 1:45 PM ^
MC5 broke a lot of ground in rock and punk that other bands used to become much more famous. They were almost too innovative to be truly understood in their heyday but almost every truly great rock and punk band (Rolling Stones, Iggy Pop, Ramones) cite them as a major influence. By comparison Def Leppard is MTV eye-candy.
December 13th, 2018 at 6:26 PM ^
Wait a second- the Rolling Stones cited MC5 as an influence?
December 13th, 2018 at 10:22 AM ^
I share the sentiment about it feeling not exclusive. I also wonder what will happen in 40 years given the lack of popularity in what I’d consider rock and roll and the rise of electro pop and hip hop. What rock bands have the cultural influence that those of the 70s and 80s had? You look at the top rock charts in billboard and it’s not very inspiring.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:25 AM ^
Rock & Roll is going the way of the blues. The big stars are getting older and older, while the number of young musicians entering the fold is getting smaller and smaller. It's accurate to say that Rock has seen its best days, and it's on its way out, unfortunately.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:58 AM ^
Rock and Roll ain't noise pollution
Rock and Roll ain't going to die
Rock and Roll ain't noise pollution
Rock and Roll it will survive!
December 13th, 2018 at 11:32 AM ^
It's definitely dead in terms of new acts.
We need the next Nirvana or Guns N Roses to emerge.
And please don't tell me it's Greta Van Fleet. They are truly one of the worst bands I've ever heard, and I've heard most of 'em.
December 13th, 2018 at 11:55 AM ^
Greta Van Fleet SUCKS
December 13th, 2018 at 12:27 PM ^
Great Van Fleet is very good.
If I had to compare you to Greta Van Fleet - I would have to say that you suck.
December 13th, 2018 at 12:52 PM ^
greta van fleet is a very good cover band
December 13th, 2018 at 3:48 PM ^
I also enjoy Greta Van Fleet. I think you just have to take them at face value. They aren't pushing the envelope or doing anything super imaginative, but neither is a peanut butter and jelly sandwich (and those are just fine). My hope for them is that they grow and evolve and do their own thing. Kinda like how the first RUSH album is just a Led Zeppelin knock off.
December 13th, 2018 at 4:01 PM ^
First RUSH album is still underrated.
December 13th, 2018 at 4:56 PM ^
For obvious reason...Neil hadn't arrived yet.
December 13th, 2018 at 4:50 PM ^
I disagree Peter.
I think a PBNJ sandwich is much more progressive than you give it credit for. In a time when everyone was making ham, bologna or salami sandwiches, someone had the nuts to make a sandwich with peanut butter and jelly.
Greta Van Fleet on the other hand just flat out blow.
December 13th, 2018 at 3:59 PM ^
You're wrong on Greta. I'm seeing them again this weekend (#3 on the year) and they fuckin rock.
Yes, they sound like Led Zeppelin. Who happens to be the greatest band to ever step foot on this Earth. (Followed immediately by RUSH)
December 13th, 2018 at 4:01 PM ^
I could follow you on Zeppelin, you lost me at Rush, talented for sure, just not in the same stratosphere.
December 13th, 2018 at 4:03 PM ^
Fair enough. And I agree not in the same league on many of the "metrics" but damn they are up there in the talent category.
December 13th, 2018 at 4:04 PM ^
I have the same opinion, just switched. I will now consider you, goblueram, my internet best friend.
December 13th, 2018 at 8:36 PM ^
They don’t fucking rock.
They fucking suck.
They are very possibly the worst band of all time, rivaled only by Nickelback.
At least you got the Zeppelin & Rush thing right - 2 of the all time greatest bands.
December 13th, 2018 at 4:17 PM ^
Don't hold your breath waiting for the next big thing. Current music tastes and the current state of the industry basically make it impossible. Nobody wants bands to play local bars or parties anymore; they just want DJs.
I tried my hand at playing in a college band almost 20 years ago, and even then nobody wanted live music. There's nothing enticing young musicians to really go for it anymore.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:28 AM ^
One of my favorites. Pyromania or On Through the Night were often playing on my Walkman as a kid. Yes, I’m old.
I have tremendous respect for the way the band handled Rick Allen’s accident/recovery. Great to see them recognized now.
December 13th, 2018 at 12:41 PM ^
Don't forget "High n Dry", NightTrain. Think this is the album that got them really cooking, before "Pyromania". Songs like "Let It Go", "High n Dry (Saturday Night)" and "Bringin On The Heartbreak". Loved that album...
December 13th, 2018 at 1:01 PM ^
‘83 was really when I started listening to what I wanted, and not just the 8 tracks/radio that my mom was listening to. That’s how I got to Pyromania. My cousin had the older stuff (OTTN and HND), so I borrowed them.
I liked both but definitely OTTN better. I’m probably one of the few who does; the band doesn’t even play anything from OTTN in concert.
December 13th, 2018 at 3:58 PM ^
Very rarely, they'll pull out "Wasted" from OTTN. I think they just did on their European tour. But it's been ages since we've seen it played in the US.
December 13th, 2018 at 5:04 PM ^
Thanks for the info. I’ve seen them live twice in the U.S., and no OTTN either time.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:31 AM ^
Finally. Def should be in automatically since Pour Some Sugar on Me has to be the all-time most played song at any "local FOLK DANCING establishment!"
December 13th, 2018 at 10:38 AM ^
I listen to a variety of music. I have spotify and Iheartradio. Sometimes I have a hankering for classic rock, so I'll search for "Pink Floyd Radio" or "Rolling Stones Radio" and of course you geta mix of things. For some sick perverted reason, along with the "classic" band you type into the search bar, these apps will play bands such as Poison, Def Leppard, Motley Crue etc. It's absolutely horrible. I suppose the computer is not discerning enough to make a distinction between The Stones and Poison, but God what a shitty thing when "Every Rose has a Thorn" comes on. Or "Wild Side." And then it's in your head for hours.
December 13th, 2018 at 12:56 PM ^
The fact that "it's in your head for hours" is the reason it's a good song.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:40 AM ^
No musical act induces me to change the station faster than Def Leppard.
December 13th, 2018 at 12:30 PM ^
What bands do you like, comrade? You look like an Air Supply guy to me.
December 13th, 2018 at 4:01 PM ^
Scorpions!
Though I would turn up Air Supply as well, because I can make love out of nothing at all.
December 13th, 2018 at 1:57 PM ^
Coldplay. And it's not even close. I fucking haaaaaaate Coldplay.
December 13th, 2018 at 2:23 PM ^
The Pretenders. I don't know why 1st Wave insists on playing them. You've never seen an overweight middle aged white guy move so fast as when that shite comes on my car radio.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:47 AM ^
Neither Whitney Houston nor Janet Jackson are rock, my main issue is non-rock musicians getting in. Rock at its core is guitar, lyrics, rebellion, etc. Playing your own instruments... I digress.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:57 AM ^
So many things wrong with this I don’t know where to start
December 13th, 2018 at 10:48 AM ^
Def Leppard is a good show. Congrats to them.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:50 AM ^
Obviously they're just letting anybody in these days, he sniffed. Def Leppard--they couldn't even get into their spandex pants by themselves, let alone play their instruments.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:57 AM ^
I mean, this is just not factually accurate. I am no Def Leppard fan. The last time I thought about Def Leppard I was in the like sixth grade, but they are an actual rock and roll band with "instruments" and such. They were fairly influential of a lot of different styles of music in the 80s both in terms of the development of US heavy metal and metal cross-over success and had a lot of touring success for over a decade. We may not really enjoy them, that is fair, but they are not out of place in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
December 13th, 2018 at 11:27 AM ^
I wouldn't call Def Leppard influential. They wrote cheesy pop tunes and they were never "heavy metal" either.
They definitely had success though.
December 13th, 2018 at 11:34 AM ^
They were heavy metal before the heavy metal that you are talking about. They were like a Model T version of what would later become Guns and Roses and Motley Crue. Not by the time of their major mainstream success but early in their career.
December 13th, 2018 at 11:53 AM ^
I mean, a lot of people wouldn't call Motley Crue or Guns and Roses metal either.
December 13th, 2018 at 12:01 PM ^
They did at the time, though. All kinds of music evolve but are still considered under the umbrella in which they were originally consumed. The Beatles hardly sound like "Rock and Roll" as one would describe it now but they are certainly a Rock and Roll band.
December 13th, 2018 at 12:58 PM ^
Well those people would be incorrect, though I understand the point
December 13th, 2018 at 1:37 PM ^
Bullshit.
On Through The Night & High N Dry are not Heavy Metal.
And call them what you may they certainly weren't highly influential.
December 13th, 2018 at 3:07 PM ^
Define influential. We know they sold a lot of records, but who exactly did they influence?
December 13th, 2018 at 3:24 PM ^
They influenced many 1980's male hair styles.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:54 AM ^
OT? Really?
Def Leppard's lead singer is Joe Elliott.
His second cousin is former Michigan coach Bump Elliott.
NOT OT!
December 13th, 2018 at 10:57 AM ^
Radiohead is good. That is all.
December 13th, 2018 at 3:34 PM ^
One of my favs. They were great this summer at LCA. Waited a very long time to see them. Maybe they play “Creep” at their HOF induction.....doubt it.