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Seth December 8th, 2018 at 9:34 PM

Michigan's 2019 class just took a heartbreaking blow, as five-star/top commit Daxton Hill flipped tonight to Alabama.

Hill is the consensus top safety in the country and likely would have helped Michigan immediately in its quest to suffocate all possible offensive options with more talented players. It especially hurts because of how well Hill would have filled the one hole in Don Brown's system. It triply sucks because #3 overall safety Lewis Cine, a former teammate of Michigan commit Mike Sainristil, appeared to lose interest in Michigan shortly after Hill committed. It quadruply sucks because it's further evidence that our entire reality is some awful child's NCAA 2014 Alabama dynasty.

Hill is the fifth decommit of this class but the first that was truly surprising, and the most impossible to replace. Michigan still has four-star safety Quinten Johnson in the class, as well as viper prospects Joey Velazquez and Amauri Pesek-Hickson, and a slew of lanky prospects from last year. In the past Don Brown has found NFL safeties (John Johnson, Justin Simmons, Obi Melifanwu) in under-scouted athletes but there's no Melifanwus on the board at the moment, unless you count Pesek-Hickson.

With the loss of its only current five-star Michigan's class has dropped out of the top ten in the 247 composite. Michigan is expected to reel in one of its top receiver prospects and one or two giant offensive linemen, and remains the crystal ball leader for five-star DE Zach Harrison.

Comments

Go Blue 80

December 9th, 2018 at 8:23 AM ^

This is what happens when you get embarrassed in one of the biggest games in college football of the year on a national stage, coming out unprepared and looking like garbage.

umaz1

December 9th, 2018 at 8:28 AM ^

Dee Hart, Deshawn Hand, Damien Harris, Najee Harris, Dax Hill.

Anyone seeing a pattern here?

We have to stop recruiting players with the last name starting with H. Bama will take them all.

DeepBlueC

December 9th, 2018 at 9:19 AM ^

Hey, stars don't matter, right?  The three star, 106th safety in the country that we get to replace him will be just as good because hey, we trust the coaches! 

bighouse22

December 9th, 2018 at 9:24 AM ^

What's done is done.  It is pretty clear the loss to OSU has significantly impacted the narrative about the season.  We basically pulled an OSU by getting hammered and gave all the naysayers the opportunity downgrade the entire year and trajectory.  OSU is not in the playoff because they were beat down by Purdue and Michigan is taking hits because they gave up 62 and got curb stomped by OSU.

The only way for UM to change the narrative is to beat Florida convincingly.  Although we don't love the matchup it is critically important to recruiting and the impression of which direction this program is going.

This might be the biggest game in Harbaugh's tenure if Michigan is to be successful and he is going to have longevity as coach.  

Go Blue!

tybert

December 9th, 2018 at 11:07 AM ^

We lost some safety to Urban at Florida who then went to Indy and was non-descript.

Same when Les stole a DB from Lloyd.

None of those 3 guys did much and maybe would have been a Grady or Pipkins at Michigan.

SPEED is the key - I'm interested to see what an off-season of work can do for Ambry. 

bighouse22

December 9th, 2018 at 9:41 AM ^

The team desperately needs a couple of game changing athletes on each side of the ball.  We need guys who can catch a short pass and take it the house on any play.  Looking at OSU they have those kind of athletes all over the field.  When Michigan got beat by FSU in the early 90s, they changed the type of athlete they recruited and went after speed.  Elite speed is the answer.  And yes I know Dax had it.  Big loss, not end of the world. 

 

tybert

December 9th, 2018 at 11:12 AM ^

That 91 team had some great players, not just Desmond. We got torched by both FSU (2nd half) and Washington. It seemed like Gary realized he needed to upgrade speed and quit trying to win B10 only. 

If I'm a DC, I'll be glad to see Michigan play manball when they could be using Black, DPJ, and Nico to shred a secondary, along with Gentry with stick-um on his gloves. THAT has to change next year.

 

M-Dog

December 9th, 2018 at 1:13 PM ^

This is exactly what our "friends" the editors at 11 Warriors said. 

They were very concerned with their weakness on defense with their back seven. 

They thanked us for the gift of a Michigan game plan that cut their 7 trouble spots down to just 4. 

They could not believe that we did not put more pressure on their 3 erratic LBs like Purdue and Maryland did, and chose to just play manball in a phone booth.

That's not our opinion, that's their's.

They're not wrong.

   

Late Bluemer

December 9th, 2018 at 9:52 AM ^

Kind of ironic that I just watched the Graduate on TV a couple of nights ago.  "Are you trying to seduce me, Mr. Saban?" comes to mind.  Kid probably had every intention of sticking with his Michigan commitment but allowed himself to be sucked into a situation where he had them whispering in his ear the last few months.  I thought this one was pretty safe to be honest w/ Chris Partridge as the led recruiter.  Maybe bama went at this one extra hard to punish CP for turning his back on them last year.

Hajado

December 9th, 2018 at 10:10 AM ^

I watched Army/Navy yesterday. It was great watching solid tough football without “leaving early, not playing with my teammates in bowl game” assholes. Nobody looking to get to the League above everything else. Just great guys playing football.  Those guys are all winners.  

tybert

December 9th, 2018 at 11:02 AM ^

1. 62 sucks. Losing Daxson sucks. OK so we lost out on some of the guys for the 2019 incoming class. We haven't lost a guy (for good) for 2020.

2. The only thing we can do is win our bowl game and go into next year with momentum.

3. 2019 will be the most important season for JH period. November 30th is must win. When JH was hired, I thought 2017 would be the breakthrough - but we didn't count on the JOK, WS, BP era.

4. DB is no genius nor is he a fool. Given the off-season, he is not going to line up and play the same way next year. We're not talking about Jim Herrmann who never figured out how to stop the spread (NW 54 points, Vince Young, Troy Smith, etc.)

5. Someone was right earlier - the problem wasn't just DB speed, it was zero impact from the DT's. Give us a 6th year from Mo Hurst and Willie Henry and this game would have been different. 

6. Beat OSU in 2019, and we won't be B-ing about recruiting any more. 

The Denarding

December 9th, 2018 at 12:57 PM ^

The game is but one component and I don’t even believe that big of one.   Moore possibly leaving to OC at CMU, Harbaugh and the NFL, money, exposure.   One player, no matter how good, does not make or break a program.   Harbaugh beat Pete Carroll with a lot less talent.   This will get there. Who knows if any of you will be happy.   This fan base wanted to fire Beilein within the last couple of years.   Nothing it feels or says is a surprise anymore.

WestQuad

December 9th, 2018 at 1:05 PM ^

I was playing poker last night.  Borrowed some chips and staged an epic comeback.  I got the alert about Dax Hill and it sucked the wind out of my sails and my comeback.  I hope Harbaugh can close on Keegan and Harrison.

CoverZero

December 9th, 2018 at 7:26 PM ^

Fans want a NC from Harbaugh, however it probably will never happen.  Michigan gets excellent talent, but not from the upper echelon top tier.  This leads to 10-3ish seasons under a good coach, less than that under avg. to below avg. (Hoke and RR).  Every card would have to fall perfectly in place for Michigan to win any NCs anytime soon. 

JBlitz1

December 9th, 2018 at 11:02 PM ^

If a kid is that uncertain and bails due to one game, I doubt Harbaugh wants him and neither should we. Good that his character (or lack thereof) shows up now and not 2 years later while at UM

1201 S. Main St.

December 10th, 2018 at 3:11 PM ^

Some of the replies in this thread are incredibly disheartening.  We all love U of M and think very highly of the school, but not everyone does.  It is not like Hill switched to Ole Miss or some other mid-tier Power 5 program, he switched to THE current college football school in Alabama.  I hate Bama and strongly dislike Saban, but the guy is an unreal coach and has been running a powerhouse for damn near a decade.  I have no idea about whether the OSU game had any impact on Hill's flip or if any talk of Harbaugh going to the NFL contributed, but at a minimum I'd imagine they didn't help.  All the bullshit about it must be a bagman or Saban is cheating is just pathetic bullshit.  The recent history between Michigan and Bama football are uncomparable, as are their coaches (which is tough for me to say, but there is no question Saban is the best coach in the country).  Saban also specializes in coaching defensive backs which is not Harbaugh's specialty.  Not that Hill wouldn't have gotten great coaching at Michigan too.  I'm sure there were a lot of reasons for Hill's transfer, not just one, but to pin it all on a theory of him being paid by Bama is just short sighted bullshit which refuses to accept Bama and Saban for the power house program they are.  

GoBlueGladstone

December 11th, 2018 at 2:18 PM ^

Maybe it's because I am way old now (Michigan 93'), but I find tracking the whimsy of 17-year-olds a less productive way to channel my anxiety about Michigan Football. I've been both surprised and bummed so many times it creates a zero sum game that leaves me hallow. QED: Keeping Hill in the fold would not have necessarily erased 'The Horror of 11/24/18,' but losing him definitely adds to the sting.

I dunno, man. It all seems like a tangential concern to fret over one highly-valued recruit when there is an existential battle going on. Even with the understanding that many see the addition of like and said talent is part of the equation to beating/competing with tOSU.