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03/03/2018 - 5:02pm Yep - tonight would be great

Luckil, I have a wife who will play cribbage with me while I'm also drinking beer and paying attention to the REPLAY of such a wonderful night. That, and maybe a winning scratch off lottery ticket tonight too!

God Bless JB!

03/03/2018 - 5:00pm Since 2011, 9 and 7 vs. Sparty

What a MAN!

Yes, serious MAN CRUSH here for this guy. 

Thinking back to his first season and 20+ losses picking up without many recruits after Amaker couldn't turn the corner.

As much as it pisses me off to lose to Sparty in football - trust me, Spartan fans are pissed to lose to us in hoops!

Will be enjoying the brewski's tonight watching the replay!


02/03/2018 - 12:11am Talked with a close friend who is an MSU grad this week

He expects that the scandal will look and dig deep into the FB and Hoops programs. His take is that Izzo is likely a casualty because the Travis Walton plea-down and departure (I know nothing!) will be embarrassing once people realize how did Hollis know and Izzo not know the guy living in his basement assualted a woman, at least until it was reduced to a lesser crime? WTF with that?

His biggest fear is losing Mike Dantoni. He thinks it won't happen but knows that neither Engler nor Blanchard have any more political careers to worry about and just MIGHT dump MD if they determine he and or his staff tried to influence police or MSU police. Both former Govs are MSU grads but also care about their legacy to MSU in rooting out the evil.

Schuette is a more dangerable spot. If he goes too deep into EITHER program, he risks losing voter support from a very large MSU alumni group. His likely oppoent, Gretchen Whitmer, is also an MSU grad but can afford alienating a few people who think 8-2 in his last 10 vs. Michigan excuses negligent leadership.

ANYWAY, in spite of a lousy 8-5 FB season, at least we've run our sports programs with integrity - win or lose. 

These brave 150+ women (and others who are nameless but got abused by Hoops and FB players) deserve the RIGHT action regardless of records vs. Michigan. 

01/04/2018 - 7:05pm Great addition

I'm not sure how long it will take to get our O Line guys into shape, but I've always admired UW for having an OL that would just physically impose its will on an opponent.

We couldn't push teams like Cincy and AFA off the ball - it was more than just missed blocks or poor angles. STRENGTH!

01/04/2018 - 7:02pm Just glad he isn't our problem any more

During his 1st offseason with us (early 2008), I talked with a youth football coaching volunteer who was down at a day camp where other youth players were allowed to attend. It featured a Michigan open practice during the spring session. The person was shocked about how many F bombs and other curse words RR was using - not that this doesn't happen on many campuses during practices, but the issue was a bunch of 10-13 yr old kids hearing a guy not controlling his tongue around kids.

Hoke at least had his heart in the right place, even though we was clueless.

JH's character said a lot about himself when he complained about the Purdue locker room and medical situation after Speight. And we won that game, so it wasn't crying about a loss and making excuses.

01/03/2018 - 6:18pm Beilein - midway through 4th season (2010-11)

I recall the hope for UM hoops after season 2 - we broke the NCAA Tourney drought and even won a game. Next season was a HUGE disappointment.

Then in season 4 - after a 10-2 start against cream puffs - we went 1-7 (1-6 in B1G) with rumors that Beilein was coaching for his job - at least he might get one more season.

Then...we go to MSU and shocked them and go on a roll (8-3 in regular season) - beat MSU again. Then Trye Burke arrives and we have three excellent seasons in a row.

Other than one 16-16 season when Lavert goy hurt and we had a lot of holes to fill - it's been 6 of 7 seasons in NCAAs - including three runs into Sweet 16 (with one ending in the title game).

Point is - do we believe JH can turn it around like JB did? 

I don't know WHEN but don't doubt it WILL happen.  


01/03/2018 - 4:25pm Would love to see the look on

Dicktonio's face if we played a 1997 vintage performance at MSU next year and pasted them. The post game handshake and comments would be like an early Christmas gift!

That GUY must get his butt kicked by JH!

01/03/2018 - 4:23pm The 2016 game at Iowa - that's when the trouble started

I was there. We led early and seemed in control of the game and crowd, up 10-0 and focring Iowa to punt. Then the punter drops it inside the 3. The usual blown assignment on the O Line and a safety - followed by an Iowa TD drive - game is 10-8 and the season never recovered. We played tenative the rest of the game.

It's those kind of toughness moments that I believe JH will be able to mold in these guys - I have a feeling Chase, Gary, etc. will NOT allow the D to wilt at key moments like we did on the crushing TD drive at UW, etc. 

On offense, we have to get the muscle on the O line to force our will on teams. UW sure did that to us late in the game this year.

I don't doubt that JH will finally get us to 11+ wins here. It's the frustration of seeing us come up short too often lately that gnaws at a lot of us.

I also don't expect a lot of NCs from JH - hey, even if we get Bo vintage 85-89 with RB trips, winning bowl record, wins over rivals, etc. that will be enough for me!

01/03/2018 - 4:15pm We need a "PSU blocks OSU FG" moment

Look at PSU last year, after losing to UM 49-10, they had to rally at home to beat Minny in OT. The same day we beat UW 14-7 and looked like B1G favorites.

Then - the white out night, blocked FG returned for a TD, etc. and they coast through the rest of the season until losing an epic RB to USC.

Franklin was being talked about as a guy in his last season or maybe getting one more season - he had no signature wins, etc. UNTIL ONE BLOCKED KICK.

I have every reason to believe we HAVE IT IN US to SOME DAY have this moment - which would only make this season seem like a "turning point" in much the same way a bad '79 season or awful '84 season for Bo led to a great next season

01/03/2018 - 3:58pm Rebuilding vs. reloading

I think we've entered "reloading" mode with our D - that is one reason this season wasn't a total failure - Don Brown and the talent and speed on D have me excited on that side of the ball. 

Offense is where we have to rebuild right now - but given the O Line recruiting failures at the end of the Hoke era - we don't have any Runyan Sr, Hutchinson, Backus, Jansen, etc. waiting to replace the seniors. 

I feel good about special teams - even though the P game sucked - that's one position we can find the right guy to fix. Replacing Peppers was tough, but we'll find a guy to return punts next year - or maybe the DPJ we saw vs. AFA and OSU will return for 13 games. Crotch grabbing aside, Nordin is a great kicker - he made the kicks on a day when it was chilly in Florida and not a great field. I expect him to win a close road game for us next year.

01/03/2018 - 3:47pm Good for him

Remember the day he got the blocked punt TD in the comeback at Iowa - back when we used to pull out close games there. 

UCLA - not a bad place to move to!

01/03/2018 - 3:46pm Had Bo still been alive

Miles would have been the guy. I wanted him too. Not sure how he would have done - but likely better than 500 against Dicktonio and maybe win 1 out of 3 vs. Tressel/Meyer. Our B1G title drought wouldn't go back to '04 - he'd have won at least one of them. 

To think of the pain Bill Martin put the guy through - a Michigan Man never deserved this run-around like Les got.

01/03/2018 - 12:30pm The adversity is painful but...

may be what we needed to jolt this team. Earlier this morning, heard Eye of the Tiger while out for a walk in 10 degree weather and started thinking about the lesson from that Rocky film. Truth is, I think JH has recruited GOOD YOUNG MEN for the most part (didn't care for the Nordin moment but he apologized and hopefully is running stadium steps for 30 days in a row).

If Sparty can go from 3-9 to 10-3, we can certainly make a 2-3 game jump back to 10-11 wins.

With the right OC and Peters improvement (I'm assuming Shea will have to sit out a year) - this team CAN surprise a lot of people next year.


01/03/2018 - 12:25pm If Sumlin is hired

I think Tate stays. Otherwise, yes NU would be dangerous with him. At least he'd have to sit out the '18 season and we wouldn't face him in Sept. 

01/03/2018 - 12:23pm The worst part

is I wonder if the stressful situation at Michigan started the cracks in his relationship and then Arizona was his place to drift away and mess around.

I'm wondering what would have happened if he had just stayed at WVU, Bill Martin would have known how to use his phone on the yacht, and Les would have come to UM. I'm still much happier with JH than Les - but I don't think MD would have gone 6-1 vs. Les.

As to life situations and people messing around, I've seen several cases in my time of people whose career or interests get in the way of marriage and often times it's NOT the left behind spouse who was unfaithful but rather the person who focused on career or interests. just. damn. sad.


01/03/2018 - 12:19pm The meanderings were overboard

Reading the story, having the woman suing him cover for his affair with ANOTHER woman, and having her play referee on the sidelines at USC between Rita and the other woman - WOW!

Tucson isn't big enough that others around the program didn't know something was up.

01/03/2018 - 12:15pm Was pulling for him too

He had everything - nice weather - nice wife - no pressure given UA is a BB school. Lower standard for victories (just go 8-5 and beat ASU half the time), etc.


01/03/2018 - 12:10pm Unofficial captains

I know Ruiz will only be a SOPH but I like his attitude and willingness to play G vs. C if it helps the team. I'm expecting him to be one of the leaders in the weight and locker room. 

01/03/2018 - 12:07pm Love the motor on Chase

The final play at Indy where he forced the Qb to throw into the EZ for Kinnel's pick - that was probably the happiest memory from this entire season. 

01/02/2018 - 11:41pm This is about on the field performance

Only one good season (PAC 12 south champ).

If his wife leaves him soon, then MAYBE I'll believe the allegations. 

01/02/2018 - 5:10pm The model was last year's UW game

Tense atmosphere, physical teams, any big play could be the ONE play to decide the game. Finally, Speight dropped the long pass into Darboh's arms for the winning TD.

Probably our best overall performance under JH (minus the 3 missed FGs) - WHEN the expectations for a close and hard fought game were present on game day.

Yes, the 49-10 PSU win was probably the best overall game - but PSU was down some key D players and the game wasn't expected to be close.

The Wisconsin game, though, was when I left the stadium thinking we were on the way to Big 10 title in season 2. 

Hard to believe that was Game 5 of last year - it seems like a century ago given the struggles since Iowa last year.


01/02/2018 - 5:04pm And he took the jug home 3 years later

JH's offense worked for 1.75 seasons, with the right personnel and pretty solid QB play. 

One starts to wonder how much the RIGHT S&C coach can have on the O Line and perhaps ability for RBs to have a bit extra in their step and break a few more tackles. 


01/02/2018 - 4:59pm In Bo's Lasting Lessons book

One of my favorite stories is how, after the 6-6 1984 season, he has a staff meeting with his entire staff. Bo enters the room and tells the staff "you are all fired," he lets it sink in, then says "and I'm fired too" - reminding everyone that another season like that and the people won't have to worry about coaching Michigan football again.

The bounce back season was worth lasting memories as 1985 was my senior year at UM.

THAT team shocked a lot of people and finished #2.

One has to wonder if Harbaugh is thinking back to that 1984-85 off-season again and what it took to develop the focus and toughness. 


01/02/2018 - 1:36pm Higdon should talk with

Donovan Warren, Ernest Shazor, etc.

Guys who didn't get drafted after thinking they were top 3 rounds.


01/02/2018 - 1:31pm In spite of the frustration with this season

Hackett will always be a great guy to meet - his coaching search and how he handled letting BH go were things to be modeled by other ADs.

Contrast that with ADs like Goss, Martin's 07 coaching search, anything to do with the Brandon era, etc.

I think Warde is a good guy and someone who will not let things happen like happened at MSU with Nasser

01/02/2018 - 1:28pm My favorite memories have been ROAD WINS

traveled to games at MSU in 81, 83 (42-0), 85 (31-0), at Iowa in '05 in OT

also the bowl win vs. Ole Miss (p.s. that was the time when the Rebels section was filled with Confederate flags and the "Yankee" team won) 

Also TV road wins at ND in 06, at PSU and UW back to back in 97, etc.

Nothing cheers me up more than a critical road win in a hostile environment. That's why I'm not bummed with at ND at MSU and at OSU next year - we can make it a great day with a few wins there

01/02/2018 - 1:24pm I don't have the same "woe is us" attitude any more

Growing up in the 70s and going to UM in the 80's, the heartbreaking or ugly losses really got in the way of my mood, sometimes for days.

73/74 to OSU

numerous RB losses

the blocked punt palooza in 79 (many punts blocked that year)

Harry F-ing Oliver in 80 

loss at unranked UW on my 1st weekend in South Quad in '81

6 loss team in 84

D Browns 7-int thriller at MSU in 87

and so on

I think Toomer showed the right amount of love and frustration with UM FB this year. Expectations should be high with JH here - and my mood wouldn't be different even if we had won yesterday. If we do turn it around have finally beat MSU and OSU in the same season for the first time since '03 - then those who have posted here over the years did "stay" for UM football.

01/02/2018 - 1:14pm Kudos to Gary and Winovich too

Two guys who played with heart all year long. Chase forced the game sealing INT vs. IU. Gary was a monster at times and had a sack yesterday.

I hope Chase is told "your draft grade is not good enough" and comes back. 

01/02/2018 - 1:12pm Negative score for safety play

We have big problems in coverage and tackle angles from Kinnel and Metellus - has been a problem all season. 

Yesterday, a stupid PF by JM and getting beat (again) by Kinnel. 

Hopefully, we have two new starters next year - I don't see these two ever getting to be even good enough to start on a Richrod D. 

This is the missing piece on having a truly GREAT D next year. Zordich and DB - they will fix this position.

01/02/2018 - 12:57pm Some of our best teams had tough NC schedules

At least going into the season.

1985 - ND, SC, Mary were all ranked

1997 - Colorado and ND were ranked

2003 - ND, at Oregon (loss - who can forget the "crowned field" excuse)

2011 - ND, SDSU

I don't want the Brian Kelly excuse because he has to play USC and Stanford every year, 

Even a NC loss on the road isn't a killer - Washington's weak schedule almost cost them the playoffs last year.


01/02/2018 - 12:51pm Thinking back to the early days of Tressel

I know, I hate to think about OSU, but Tressel really didn't have much in the way of offense until Troy Smith came along. They found ways to win with D and special teams and avoid turnovers. 14-10 games aren't exciting at all, but if we win, who cares?

Clarett was only around for 2002 but Tressel was able to piece together good teams with the talent on hand.

We have an offensive philosophy that doesn't match the talent and experience. 5 turnover games are a sign of guys being overwhelmed by the playbook - even the line probably didn't know who to block and when - given how many times simple stunts killed us and our QB.


01/02/2018 - 12:44pm We can fix that on Sept 1st

Settle it on the field.


01/02/2018 - 12:44pm I'm reminded of Denard in '12 and Devin in '13 and '14

The ugly 2012 loss at ND - Hoke tried to fit Denard into a pocket passer and he was overwhelmed.

Devin was never a pocket passer and Hoke blew that one too.

The O this year was only going to work if we had a Henne or Jake or '03 Navarre. Too much to process in a short amount of time. That was obvious on the EZ INT. 

I think getting Jedd back to help the QBs  and simplifying the offense to be more like Tressel ball may be the only course until we get a bonifide QB. Boring? Yes. But the turnovers speak to guys being over their heads. 

01/02/2018 - 12:37pm Last year's receivers

During 2015 and 2016, think how many times Chesson, Darboh, and Butt got open and made critical 3rd down plays. That alone made Speight look good. I think back to the win at Minnesota in 2015. 

If we have any intensity and talent at WR, those guys will hopefully see the opening and step up during the offseason.

I'm actually happy with the TE talent - but puzzled why we only use it sparingly. 

01/02/2018 - 12:29pm Replacing the S & C coach maybe the start

The fact that our S&C coach was told he's not coming back right after the OSU loss said something about what JH has been seeing.

I wonder if Barwis, given a 2nd chance at UM, would make a difference. Anyway, we have a new S&C coach who hopefully has an attitude and is contagious. Tired of seeing our guys not being able to push Cincy and AFA off the ball.

01/02/2018 - 12:22pm 2017 was also like 1987 (minus the bowl loss)

1987 we played give-away with rotating QBs. Had a boatload of turnovers in losses to ND, MSU, OSU. The only saving grace was the win over Bama in the bowl.

This team (2018) needs some leaders - like Lamarr Woodley and David Harris were for the 2006 team. I hope guys like Gary, Bush, etc. just take charge of the team and drive them hard every day in the offseason.

On offense, I don't see any leadership from the players. Maybe Zach will step up. Perhaps Ruiz as well. 

We can talk coaching changes but attitudes have to change on the field too. 

01/02/2018 - 12:17pm 2006 team had new coordinators on O and D

I believe Terry Malone also left after 2005. Jim Herrmann was awarded about 5 years of paychecks for his one good season (1997).

I thought Malone deserved to stay based on 2003-04, especially with Henne as a True FR.

The biggest difference between 2005 and 2017 is at least we beat unbeaten PSU on the Henne to Manningham TD. This season had no good moments. 

01/01/2018 - 8:35pm M Fans after bad seasons

My senior year at UM, 1985, we were coming off what Bo later called "a dismal season" (6-6 in '84. Expectations were low (we weren't even ranked at the start of the season) - but it was clear during the opener vs. ND that something was different about THAT team and the fans were loud in that game. It continued and peaked vs. OSU to end the season. Perhaps my favorite UM team of all time.

Fact is - complacency ON THE FIELD was apparent from the Cincy game on - fans booed a crappy offense for the 1st time in the Harbaugh era - and when did we ever really light it up all year? Expecting the fans to stand for the whole game and shout when the players are not focused and showing that they have not been prepared to play this season is not going to make the team play better.

The roots of our performance problems on the field this seasons started last January - coaches, players, off-season lifting and strength program, watching tape, new players being prepared to step up. SOME players really did their hard work this year (Winovich, Hurst, Hudson, etc.) for 365 days. 

Tomorrow is the opening of the 2018 season. I expect a lot of better prep work, energy, focus, etc. We (the fans) will do our part next September 8th. Just like the guys coming back for '85 learned the lessons from '84, we have a chance to have a GREAT season and break a lot of curses and losing streaks. 


01/01/2018 - 8:24pm Oregon State game 2015

I was at JH's home opener against a very bad OSU (not that OSU) team. The place was loud and hopping for a cheap opponent - and we were coming off a loss at Utah.

We fans have been doing our part for years - there were a lot of fans at home for the night game vs. Minnesota even after a storm delay.

What we need are coaches and players fully engaged 365 days a year - I hate to say it but MSU coaches and players were all-in and focused after last year's 3-9. THAT is what we need this offseason. 

01/01/2018 - 8:04pm Walk more, talk with wife more, read more, and forget about this

My lasting memory of this season will be defined by early January 2019 - whether we bounce back and go 10+ wins (regular season) with win over at least MSU or OSU.

Absolutely nothing to do until next season regarding my lasting thoughts of this debacle.


11/26/2017 - 10:54pm I miss the days when we announced the visiting starters

And loud


chants would happen

Same here

11/26/2017 - 10:52pm Sooner or later...coin flips end up 50/50

Dantonio made a deal with the devil in '15, cursed last year, another double-dare deal this year.

The guy is a legend because MSU students are mad UM rejected them.

Next year- 7 and 5 with losses to at ASU, UM, PSU, OSU, at Nebraska

Then to Music City Bowl

p.s. their fans don't travel well. Iowa fans DO travel well

11/26/2017 - 10:44pm Confession: I wanted Schiano 2007

Think he would have been a TERRIBLE hire for UT. 

But the PSU link, with a former QB who SHOULD HAVE CALLED POLICE 9-1-1 trying to use the he said that he said that he said is goofy.

This was a protest against a BAD HIRE not a morally bad hire.

2007 hire should have been Les Miles - maybe UT will give Les another shot.

Why is Les not being offered a job by anyone? Age alone isn't enough.

11/26/2017 - 10:37pm NW even at 9-3 will not outdraw UM

Holiday Bowl vs. Stanford.

Great match-up.

Intrigue. History. Academics.



11/26/2017 - 7:38pm Not expecting 3 and 0 on the road next year

But solid QB play, a running game that can move the ball in the 4th quarter, a D that forces FGs on short fields, etc.

I think MSU reverts back a bit next year without getting the favorable TO margin. 

ND isn't that great. I'm just hoping the hype is all in their favor next year and everyone is trashing JH all off-season long. Imagine his intensity and that of the staff and players. 

OSU - well we'll see - but 11-1 would be great, 10-2 with a Big 6 bowl (and a win this time) would be really nice too.

2019 is the year our schedule is tailor made for a NC. Just get back to 10+ wins next year. 

11/26/2017 - 7:32pm I'm OK if 8-4 is the bottom

We are NOT ready to be as good as OSU - need some more years to build what Urban has. 

The bounce back year is what I'm looking for - Bo never had 2 "off" years in a row. Lloyd never had 2 "off" years in a row - even the 4-loss '95 and '96 but had wins over OSU. 

After drinking beer post game yesterday, perhaps with dulled senses, I thought over the crap year we just lived thru - but we had a chance to win OSU last year and this year in the final minutes - different from Hoke, who always played OSU well, we are not losing to Rutgers, at home vs. Maryland, Utah, Minn - and needing last minute stops to beat Akron, UConn, a cfrappy NW team, etc. 

I'm old enough to have been around and grimaced at the end of '79, '84, '87, etc. seasons wondering if we had lost our edge - only to be blessed with '80, '85, '88 with wins over MSU, OSU, and 2 RB and 1 Fiesta Bowl win. 

JH deserves his chance to pull a Bo and have a "bad" UM season followed by one we can enjoy on YouTube game by game. 

11/26/2017 - 7:23pm Washington State?

Wonder if Leach would like to see what he can do throwing 40 passes a game

11/26/2017 - 7:20pm Long shots but possible

UCLA - Rosen is gone. Kelly will need to build a system but needs a stop gap (yes, Kelly is a spread guy but hopefully he learned the RichRod experience after the 2008 M team about trying to install spread in year 1)

Arkansas - new coach. Allen is a senior

CMU - it worked for Morris

Agreed that UVA makes a lot of sense.

The good news for Wilton is IF he is truly healthy, he was 12-3 as a starter and was not benched. 


11/26/2017 - 7:13pm Per some Sparty friends of mine

2016 3-9 season - Sparty had major locker room issues (leadership) and the QB was chosen as a captain because of the criticism of not having Cook name a captain. JOK was worse than O'Connor but not that much worse. 

They won Iowa, PSU, and UM this year with a +9 TO margin (10 vs. 1) - that will regress to norm next year.

The OSU game showed everyone that they were really a 7-5 or 8-4 team that pulled off two big wins. 

11/26/2017 - 7:10pm Brown got into some kind of trouble after the season 1989

I think he had grade issues - don't think he would have started anyway.

And Elvis arrived on scene - and player well as a part time starter