November 20th, 2018 at 5:19 PM ^
and Chris Hinton, and Mazi Smith, and David Ojabo. Holy crap.
November 20th, 2018 at 1:52 PM ^
Brohm leaves Purdue, Franklin to USC, Urban Meyer retires, Mark Dantonio continues to coach Michigan State, and Kirk Ferentz will retire in the near future. The Big Ten and the Midwest as a whole could very well be the Jim Harbaugh experience for the next 4 years.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:20 PM ^
Serious question......do you REALLY think that USC is going to hire James Franklin? I think that he's 3-12 against MSU, OSU and UM over the past five years. He's already punching above his weight class at Penn State....I just can't see him getting an even better job at USC.
Les Miles probably should have held out a bit longer before he took the Kansas job....
November 20th, 2018 at 2:30 PM ^
Counterpoint: Lane Kiffin
November 20th, 2018 at 2:37 PM ^
Additional counterpoints: Sarkisian, Helton
USC has made one good hire in recent memory.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:45 PM ^
even then pete carroll was at best a 50/50 reach hire at the time.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:47 PM ^
And, importantly, Franklin ends in an "N".
November 20th, 2018 at 3:12 PM ^
Do all philosophers have an ‘S’ in them?
November 20th, 2018 at 2:53 PM ^
IMO it would be a huge mistake for USC to hire him and I think they have to realize that - they need to make the right choice on the next coach - Kind of like the same situation we were in before Harbaugh.
November 20th, 2018 at 3:07 PM ^
No. I think it's all nonsense. But I think it's more likely USC's interested than Franklin's interested in USC.
Franklin's from Pennsylvania. He went to college in Pennsylvania. He's an east coast guy. I know USC is the premier west coast program, and I know we all want to hate Penn State for all of the known reasons, but Penn State is a football blue blood. That's a lateral move all the way across the country, ditching a program he spent 5 years rebuilding just to start all over again at a scuffling program with which he has no ties. Unless he's developed a Big Ten East phobia, that's illogical.
November 20th, 2018 at 4:07 PM ^
He's what, 3-15 against MSU, OSU and UM? He can't out recruit 2 of the schools he has to play every year so that's very tough to turn around. At USC, he should out recruit the division easily nearly every year and probably the whole conference.
USC may already have more talent than PSU. They were the clear pre-season favorites this year in the PAC-12 South and won 11 games last season. That's not a rebuilding job, at least not a difficult one.
November 21st, 2018 at 2:58 AM ^
If he were a smarter man, he’d realize that the PSU fan base isn’t going to accept the results he can reasonably produce. He won a conference title in the flukiest way possible despite being the third-best team in the division. He has to recruit kids to spend four years of their life in State College, Pennsylvania, a beautiful place that’s a three hour drive from anywhere.
PSU fans expect national championships, and he hasn’t really sniffed the playoffs, and a schedule where you have to go to Ann Arbor or Columbus every year isn’t conducive to winning.
Luckily, this is Jimmy F we’re talking about. He’ll likely hold on until he gets fired.
November 20th, 2018 at 3:15 PM ^
James Franklin won a big ten championship, back to back NY6 Bowls, hired Joe Moorhead, got Vanderbilt to 9 wins, and is a terrific recruiter. He’s no Harbaugh or Meyer, but not many are. He’s a very good coach, maybe a little overhyped, but he’s a very good coach. Not to mention, USC is probably one of the 5 best jobs in college football and he has an incredibly low buyout
November 20th, 2018 at 4:08 PM ^
lol--Miles should have held out a bit longer (!). Dude's been unemployed for years. He's already been holding out for a while and had no takers till Kansas. People here really overrate Miles' coaching chops. Cajun Hoke pretty much has the same record at LSU--life's easy when you've got all the talent in a talent-rich southern state on lockdown. Miles tenure at Kansas will be a disaster.
November 20th, 2018 at 6:12 PM ^
We want Frames to stay at PSU for at least the next 10 years.
November 20th, 2018 at 9:25 PM ^
I wish to subscribe to this.
November 20th, 2018 at 1:32 PM ^
Yahoooooo!!!
November 20th, 2018 at 1:32 PM ^
Planets are aligning.
November 20th, 2018 at 1:35 PM ^
Beat OSU on Saturday and make it official. Leave Zach Harrison with no doubt about where he should spend the next 3-4 years of his life.
November 20th, 2018 at 1:42 PM ^
Beat OSU by 50. Get Harrison's commitment. Meyer announces he's retiring at year end. OSU fans will know that it's all over.
November 20th, 2018 at 1:45 PM ^
After the last decade, I feel like we deserve this. But Harrison or not, I just want to pants OSU this week. #revengetour
November 20th, 2018 at 3:42 PM ^
Why is Tiger Woods in that blue ball??
November 20th, 2018 at 1:38 PM ^
He should commit as the clock hits zero and Michigan walks off the field, Big Ten East Champions in Columbus on Saturday!
November 20th, 2018 at 2:01 PM ^
He should commit at halftime at midfield.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:17 PM ^
He should commit immediately prior to the game and then do the coin flip for Michigan.
November 20th, 2018 at 3:20 PM ^
Wearing an M hat.
November 20th, 2018 at 1:38 PM ^
The possibility of Harrison, Karlaftis and Hinton on the same D Line is literal death to opposing OL's
November 20th, 2018 at 1:44 PM ^
Don't forget Mike Morris, Mazi Smith, and David Ojabo. I mean there aren't many guys out there who can stand toe to toe with Rashan Gary.
November 20th, 2018 at 1:44 PM ^
And Mazi Smith...
And David Ojabo...
November 20th, 2018 at 1:57 PM ^
If David Ojabo develops, he'll be a top 10 pick in the NFL Draft. He's 6'5, 240, runs a 4.75 verified, 4.4 shuttle, and a 34 inch vertical. He's played football for two years, He still needs work in terms of attacking double teams and developing pass rush moves, but holy shit, he could easily add 30-40 pounds on his frame and just become a world eater at SDE. I'm more excited about him than literally anyone else in this class, maybe outside of Charbonnet and Giles Jackson.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:12 PM ^
The only issue with this DL class is that some highly rated kid is going to get stuck behind another, or moved to OL. Harrison, Hinton/Smith, Hinton/Karlaftis, Karlaftis/Ojabo is an absolute freak unit. You'd have no problem convincing me that 3-4 of them could become the best that Don Brown has ever had at their future positions.
My only critique of Ojabo is that he doesn't have a Scottish accent. Disappointing.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:34 PM ^
If it's not Scottish, it's CRAP!!!
November 20th, 2018 at 11:10 PM ^
AYEEEEEEEE!!!!! Sizes come in small, medium, and FRIGGIN HUGE!!!!!
November 20th, 2018 at 2:37 PM ^
The only issue with this DL class is that some highly rated kid is going to get stuck behind another, or moved to OL
Defensive line is the one position group where this issue never concerns me. If a DL develops well enough to contribute, they'll get him into the rotation and he'll get snaps.
November 20th, 2018 at 3:05 PM ^
Oh I agree, it's not something I'm personally concerned about, you just know there will be some egos tested and some pride to swallow somewhere.
November 20th, 2018 at 4:05 PM ^
It should not be an issue the way Don Brown rotates. Redshirts and early entry come into play. There is room for everyone.
Hell look at Deshawn Hands moderate career at Bama (start one year?) and where he is now skill wise. One could argue Mattison and Brown will make you more money if you are elite.
November 20th, 2018 at 1:41 PM ^
This is becoming a very interesting class. Several extremely elite kids and several kids who are IMO huge reaches. Middle of the class is about what you'd expect. Michigan might sign the most 5 stars in any recruiting class in program history while also taking significantly more 3 stars than any other class in the top 10 sans Clemson. Will be interesting to see the finish.
In regards to Harrison in particular if this happens, what a hell of a recruiting job by Al Washington and Greg Mattison. If they sign Harrison and Karlaftis I'm confident in saying this is the best DL class in the internet era for any team.
November 20th, 2018 at 1:59 PM ^
This class probably confuses the hell out of you, Maizen.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:13 PM ^
The only thing that's confusing is why you have so little going on in your life that you feel the need to chide other posters about someone who hasn't posted on this board in over a year.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:54 PM ^
Enough already, Bluey.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:08 PM ^
3 years ago they were reaches. Today most of us should be convinced they will be coached up. Our coaching staff is not giving away 3 or no star scholarships if they don't feel they can contribute within 2-3 years.
In case you haven't noticed, Michigan is almost at a re-loading stage. Re-loading at every position including QB. OSU has had a run to be sure. They lucked into the Meyer hire at a most opportunistic time. OSU fans be careful what you ask for. The next coach very likely will not have the same success you enjoyed for the past 6 or 7 years. If Michigan wins on Saturday, it could be the beginning of Michigan's 10 year reign.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:17 PM ^
I have no doubt they will be coached up and that the staff is taking kids they genuinely want, however that still doesn't mean they don't make mistakes or that they don't reach on some guys. That also doesn't mean this class isn't a good one because it is. The reality is that most our starting 22 is composed of 4 and 5 star players. I'd be interested to know how many of our 3 stars are 1st or 2nd team all B1G kids.
November 20th, 2018 at 6:08 PM ^
Josh Metellus, Michael Dwumfour, Khaleke Hudson and Josh Uche were 3 stars and Kwity Paye was a 2 star. I think most would agree, all are a intergal part of #1 defense in country.
November 20th, 2018 at 9:15 PM ^
Ok, and?
November 20th, 2018 at 2:27 PM ^
Currently on the composite, there are 14 3* players committed to Michigan.
4 of them are from extremely underscouted parts of the country: APH, who has played one year of football and is a D1 basketball recruit, Jack Stewart, Mike Sainristil, and technically Karsen Barnhart. Even though he's instate, Paw Paw ain't exactly D1 central.
Joey Velasquez was a D1 baseball recruit, which took up his summers and prevented him from attending camps, which affects his scouting.
George Johnson is a low to mid 3* because he's a 5'11 high school quarterback, but he's thought to be the first person in Florida with 1,000 yards passing, rushing, receiving and returning. He's positionless, which is how a lot of services judge their ratings, because obviously 5'11 is much different in terms of projecting a WR/CB and a QB. He's not going to be a QB in college. May have a package but not a QB.
Charles Thomas, DJ Turner, and Mike Morris are all on the 4* edge, and have very solid offer lists. top 400 ranked players that without much movement could become 4*.
Zach Carpenter is good, just not a great athlete, but he's a very good OL.
A good way of knowing how the staff feels about a player is when he commits and what offers he has. If a player that's unranked or a 3* commits before the season even starts, it means that they feel very good about potential and scouting. If a player has an incredibly limited offer sheet from bumfuck, nowhere, that's also a good sign. If Michigan starts trying to flip 3*s from G5 teams this late in the season, or low level p5, it's no bueno because their initial first couple plans fell through. I LOVE this class from top to bottom.