The end of the Wal-mart Wolverine meme? re: CMU students sporting green vs MSU this weekend
Curious about the MgoCommunity's take on some CMU students wearing green for their home game against MSU this weekend.
http://www.cm-life.com/2012/09/04/cmu-students-rooting-for-msu/
MSU fans seem generally accepting.
September 5th, 2012 at 6:43 PM ^
They probably will never stop that nonsense.
September 5th, 2012 at 6:43 PM ^
September 5th, 2012 at 8:47 PM ^
is to have them move to the Woody Division and we only play them every 5 years or so. The word "rival" would never be used again to describe the game. I wish they all would just go away.
September 5th, 2012 at 6:43 PM ^
September 5th, 2012 at 6:44 PM ^
This is now allowed, you need to be an MSU student or alumnus to root for MSU, this is a fact, many MSU fans have told me so. I can't see this story even being possible, let alone true.
September 5th, 2012 at 7:06 PM ^
Correct. Remember, too, that we're the arrogant ones, despite them having a policy that the only people entitled to cheer for a college football team are those who went to college (and to that particular school).
The back-and-forth with our rivals would be much smarter, wittier, and more fun if we somehow had ended up with schools like Cal or Texas as our big rivals. Stupid geography and Toledo War.
September 5th, 2012 at 8:51 PM ^
September 6th, 2012 at 10:16 AM ^
"you need to be an MSU student or alumnus to root for MSU"
They're setting the bar awfully low, aren't they?
September 5th, 2012 at 6:44 PM ^
Who gives a fuck?
September 5th, 2012 at 8:58 PM ^
...you do since you clicked the thread and posted in it.
September 5th, 2012 at 9:19 PM ^
I see this argument all the time. I don't understand how typing four letters means you care. Can he not let you guys know he doesn't care about an issue without actually caring about said issue? Maybe he cares about letting everyone know he doesn't care....but....doesn't care............................wtf am I talking about? I don't give a fuck anymore.
September 5th, 2012 at 6:45 PM ^
to Central. Trust me when I say that I knew plenty of people there who were rabid Michigan State fans. I guess we can just change it's name from Wal-Mart to Spart-Mart.
September 5th, 2012 at 6:56 PM ^
That's what I call 'em
September 5th, 2012 at 11:59 PM ^
I've heard Save-A-Lot Spartans from plenty of Walmart Wolverines
September 5th, 2012 at 6:46 PM ^
I think this doesn't deserve its own thread. Why are people getting obsessed with MSU? WHO CARES
September 5th, 2012 at 6:48 PM ^
I found this comment from the article to be a little idiotic: “State will win because they are a Big Ten team and we are a MAC team, so their program is better,” said Traverse City junior Andrew Zelinski.
"Yep, that's exactly what I thought when I went to Central my senior year. Oh wait...
September 5th, 2012 at 6:50 PM ^
This is just a hunch, but Dan LeFevour and Andrew Aguila may disagree with this student's assertion, if that's the game to which you refer.
September 5th, 2012 at 6:57 PM ^
And as soon as me and my cousin settled down from running all over the place after that field goal, we watched Michigan-Notre Dame (the first of the 3 last minute wins). Needless to say, we spent a good 6+ hours on edge that day.
September 5th, 2012 at 7:21 PM ^
Oh, you thought THAT was a little idiotic? Read on, my friend...
"...but I want MSU to win because they are overall better. No one is up to par skill-wise to MSU,” Franco said."
September 6th, 2012 at 2:01 AM ^
You naive poor little thing. I cannot wait until the day of reckoning comes.
No one... up to par skill-wise... oh my, Anastasha Franco. Just, no.
September 5th, 2012 at 6:51 PM ^
Threads like this will only continue the "Wal-mart Wolverine" thing. I don't really understand the insult, but whatever.
September 5th, 2012 at 6:56 PM ^
even find it insulting, to be honest.
September 5th, 2012 at 7:02 PM ^
The insult started for good reason, really. It originally only referred to the UM fans who weren't students or alumni who would bring up academics when comparing the schools, intended to be reserved specifically for those who likely wouldn't have gotten in to either school. I don't disagree with it, because I've heard kids from Western and Central talk about how Michigan is such a better school than MSU and thought it was a dumb convo for those kids to be having.
That moniker, however, has evolved to refer to all UM fans who aren't students or alumni. This is dumb, because every fanbase, including MSU, has fans who never attended the school.
September 5th, 2012 at 7:04 PM ^
September 5th, 2012 at 7:13 PM ^
Yeah, I mean, it's hard to tell really. I think it would apply to you anyway, just as it would for a UM fan who went to Yale, even. It's hard to say "Michigan is a great school academically and MSU sucks" when you didn't go to Michigan in the first place, even if you could have.
But maybe I'm wrong, and this is clearly gray area. The intent was for people who couldn't go to MSU to rip on their academics, regardless of what school they ended up at.
September 5th, 2012 at 7:48 PM ^
Telling an MSU fan that M is superior academically is simply stating a fact, and people who speak the truth should never be demeaned for doing so. This statement didn't become "more true" since finishing my undergrad at CMU and attending grad school at M, it just remains fact. BTW, MSU has a boatload of non-affilliated fans, so if this Walverine thing isn't dead from sheer juvenility, it should die because the argument doesn't make any sense.
September 5th, 2012 at 7:57 PM ^
Although I agree with you, stating a fact is different that ripping on someone for something. It's like me calling you a fatass when I weigh 30 pounds more than you. It might be true that you're a fatass, but it makes me look like an idiot (and an asshole) when I'm more of one than you are. Just like someone who couldn't get in to MSU telling an MSU student that they're dumb because they wish they could have gotten in to Michigan.
As for it dying - it's typically only the stupidest of the Sparty fans who use it, so thinking it will die simply because it doesn't make sense it probably not going to happen.
September 6th, 2012 at 10:39 AM ^
MSU rejects applicants?
September 5th, 2012 at 11:22 PM ^
Except they don't. I honestly cant remember meeting any MSU fan who didnt either go there or had a close relative who did. We've got fans who not only never went, they don't know anybody who actually went.
It's reason number 934 they hate us so......
September 6th, 2012 at 1:26 PM ^
Speak for yourself. I've met plenty of my fair share of MSU fans who don't know anyone who went there.
September 6th, 2012 at 12:23 AM ^
BUT BUT BUT ALLITERATION
September 5th, 2012 at 6:57 PM ^
comes here again and again to tell us
that something isn't worth reading or doesn't belong here
without EVER having it occur to them
that they don't have to read it.
Weakest sauce ever.
September 5th, 2012 at 7:15 PM ^
thank you...it's any wonder folks look at some UM fans as egotistical pricks...get the fuck over it already...who cares what people post about what university. Last I checked MSU cleaned our asses the last four years in a row...perhaps it's time to start taking their program seriously? I'd like to beat them as much as the next guy, but they are rivals, always have been, always will be. We enjoyed a long run of dominance, and they have had their fun the last few years. Again, thanks for posting something I found interesting.
September 5th, 2012 at 7:54 PM ^
If MSU is "clean(ing) our asses," I think M has regained its rightful place in the in-state hierarchy.
September 6th, 2012 at 11:38 AM ^
During the 60's our football program was pretty pathetic compared to its earlier dominance. Once Bo got things going Michigan treated the MSU game as just one more on the way to "the Game". MSU may have viewed us as their rival, but since the Bo era have we really worried much about MSU? Sure they've beaten us 4 straight and can rightfully be proud of that achievement. We have beaten them for far longer streaks, including 6 straight before they started this one.
Would I like to beat MSU? You bet, I want to win every game. Am I worried about MSU's 4 game streak? Nope. Win or lose this year, the process for Michigan regaining dominance is in place and rolling along. I've been following Michigan football since the 60's. That gives me perspective on a 4 game streak that while annoying is small in the history of Michigan football.
September 5th, 2012 at 7:17 PM ^
stop wasting my precious MgoBoard space!!!!
September 6th, 2012 at 11:34 AM ^
September 6th, 2012 at 12:34 PM ^
This is exactly why I haven't taken it down yet. Also, I'm still waiting to understand why CMU rooting for MSU is going to end the "Wal-Mart Wolverine" moniker . . .
Also, what if you are a very senior executive at Wal-Mart and root for Michigan without having a Michigan degree? Is "Wal-Mart Wolverine" really a derogatory term in that instance, given the fact that Wal-Mart is from time to time the largest corporation in the world?
(What a dumb but intriguing discussion)
September 5th, 2012 at 7:20 PM ^
So the logic here is that because Central fans are cheering for another team, State fans must be hypocrits?
September 5th, 2012 at 8:10 PM ^
Is that another species of the hypo?
September 5th, 2012 at 8:16 PM ^
Opposite of a hypercrit, I imagine.
September 5th, 2012 at 7:30 PM ^
It's no secret the second biggest weekend for Sparty fans is the CMU-WMU game...
September 5th, 2012 at 7:54 PM ^
I went to Western, dont shop at Walmart, and could give 2 shits about academics when talking about FOOTBALL...This argument is fucking stupid.. GO BLUE
September 5th, 2012 at 8:11 PM ^
I go to Central and this might be the most retarted article i have ever read. Of course there will be a couple of my classmates that wear green but most of us will be sporting the Maroon and gold. This whole wal mart team needs to stop!
September 5th, 2012 at 8:24 PM ^
September 5th, 2012 at 8:41 PM ^
Yeah, that's the stupidest part about it. "Haha - your school sucks so much that people from across the nation who have no affiliation to it still love it! LOSERS"
September 6th, 2012 at 9:56 AM ^
.....it's effective. It doesn't bother most Michigan fans but it does bother some. That's a victory for them, especially if Michigan fans start discussing it amongst themselves (or if they create blog topics about it).
The meme will never die in their circles but see it for what it is..... a juvenile attempt to get under your skin..... ignore it and move it on.
September 6th, 2012 at 10:07 AM ^
when Sparties call ME a Walmart Wolverine despite the two Michigan degrees I currently hold. It's not so much being offended by the implication, it's the "no hope for the human race" kind of stupid being demonstrated.
September 5th, 2012 at 9:49 PM ^