Trash Talking at the End
Does anyone know what was going on at the end between Morris and Lucas (and possibly others)? Was it just a culmination of trash talking throughout the game or did something else go down?
I'm usually a big fan of being a good sport and keeping your mouth shut, but part of me loves that they put MSU in their place. I think it can help with the mental aspect of things, and get in the other teams' head. Very cathartic.
Yeah, short of starting a fight, how can any UM fan get down on him after a game like this?
...eh, well, maybe the ladies...
Lucus is the man at MSU, why wouldnt he talk shit to get his team a chance?
We are growing up, its not all rainbows and butterflies on the court.
its not all rainbows and butterflies on the court.
It is when Morris is out there HEYO!
/tim doyle
I'm just saying I actually enjoy seeing the passion and giving back the attitude the Spartans constantly throw our way....
i just seem to find myself way more drawn to the idea of Novak and Hardaway being rally points and not morris. they both seem to carry themselves with a huge amount of humility and team support. nothing stood out more to me than how the guys walked off the court in E Lansing... one hugging the ball, Novak hustling to get into the handshakes, etc. and morris yelling at the crowd, tugging his jersey while people walked by him to go meet at half court. that's just... i don't know how to like that while i price out my Novak seizure photo for a wall poster (/s)
continues? We'd miss the NIT if not for him.
Oh, right HE'S KILLING THE TEAM, I forgot. No emotions allowed after sweeping MSU for the first time in 14 years and sealing a Tourney bid.
Why do you hate on Darius Morris so much? You've done it all season. We are nowhere this season without the huge leap he has taken over last season. You can't argue that.
i've already been over this one. i've had a grand total of about 9 comments on this topic. oh nose. morris forces way too many bad plays and takes bad shots rather than playing the ball around. the game thread is chock full of 'what the hell is he doing?' - i'm not going to be a revisionist and say "well his box score was good." he's a pg, he has to have a good box score. but i'll argue til i'm blue in the face with anyone who watched that game and says "he played like a team player and didn't force it time and again." this whole season he's slammed up to the hoop rather than take the easy outlet because he wants to try for a layup. he got blocked badly once or twice, threw up horrible shots while teammates were wide open and is now more obvious than randy moss when a play is called that's not to him. i know a lot of people love him and i would challenge any notion i've "hated" on him or even sandbagged him to an unfair extent. i just simply do not like his selfish play and am concerned with next year because this is the EXACT same formula we saw with harris and 2009 wasn't exactly a stunner of a year.
His offensive efficiency numbers say you are wrong.
Just get it over with and fucking say it already.
13 points, 6 assists, 5 rebounds and a 3 to 1 assist to turnover ratio. That is just terrible.
/s
you are a joke man!
you obviously never played any sports beyond middle school.
if you play a rival, and it is intense, and people are talking sh*t, you talk back..especially if you BACK IT UP..as darius has!
go join the State fan site with you madness.
Go Blue
C/O 1996
on all levels. every other player on that court wearing maize was able to finish the game with respect and pride. watch the end of the game in E Lansing... a ton of dumb shit-eating grins and... morris tugging at his jersey letting everyone know he's the man. cue today's game. morris had a game where he could have been much better and had players around him truly dominate in their positions (and bail him out of jams). hardaways not wooping. morgan's not breathing down necks. morris is letting people know whose court it is.
guess what: it's not morris' court. it's his TEAMS court. MSU needs to get the fuck off Michigan's court.
Fab Five were 10x worse but they were in it together. they were 5 cocky freshman and beyond's, not one mouthy sophomore who demanded the ball more from his coach and consistently calls his own number in bad situations.
these two posts are the worst i've spoken of him and they're still not even remotely unfair. but now i'm known as "the morris hater." whatever.
and say that you wont be watching the Fab 5 documentary. FYI bingo has been moved from Tuesday to Wednesday.
Complaining about Morris is utter lunacy. He was the ONLY guy who could bring the ball up against MSU's press. Hardaway couldn't handle it. Douglas couldn't handle it, No way could Novak handle it. Without Morris, MSU blitzes us.
Morris was mad because on the play before that he got absolutely mugged by MSU with no foul called, which resulted in one of his turnovers. If getting simultaeously hammered by two defenders causing the ball to end up out of bounds is really a turnover.
Yeah, he shouldn't be swearing at the other team. So tell him to cool down and let's get over it. Geez, he's a basketball player, not the pope. If you disciplined every basketball player who talked trash on the court there might not be anyone left to play.
Everyone disagrees with you so stop posting. Nobody cares about an opinion such as yours. Eat some prunes and get ready for bed.
When a third of your team is talking shit, and the rest are not, then the whole team was not in it together. I'll gladly take Darius and his mouth into the NCAAs as opposed to having a team full of "good guys" in class every day in March.
There was no postgame jawing in East Lansing. If you just mean that they were talking trash while the game was going on, well, that goes on all the time, everywhere.
BTW, Morris had 17 and 8 in Breslin, so I don't know how that was a bad game. Today he gutted it out despite having flu symptoms.
Joe Rexrode is legitimate.
So I didn't want to vouch personally if he was a known homer (from either side)
I'd say he's a 75% homer. He works at the Lansing State Journal and was extremely nice in the numerous interactions i had with him. however i cannot think of one contentious article he's written where people were like "who does Joe think he is?" or "why would he write that?"
That's too bad. I would've told Sparty to enjoy the NIT.
their tears were making a mess.......
ohnoes.
Cleaves minus the National Championship. This caused Tom and Lupe to adopt a son and name it after Kalin.
True Story
Kalin is a douche. This is our court they need to get off of it.
Lucas, Appling, and Green were talking shit the whole game. Yeah Darius let out his feelings after they won, but isn't the "Senior, more mature, and experienced" Lucas supposed to hold back and swallow his pride, and not escalate it by being a little bitch and throw the ball? Haha wittle Sparties are whiny babies.
Anyone have a link to a vid of the flareups?
Oh well. Show me the laundry list of great NBA players and you'll see some of the game's biggest woofers. It's the culture of the sport.
Morris is class kid as we've seen highlighted recently. He is also competing against the gold standard program in a huge game for Michigan. I'd hope he'd be jacked up and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Beilein will turn it into a teaching/learning experience in some fashion. Maybe by not saying a word about it. Try as they might, MSM won't be able to marginalize this win.
How many days has it been since State beat M in hoops?
and here is praying that Mr. Hoke extends that streak to football...
It's a rivalry, things are said. The only thing to take from this confrontation is that Morris and Michigan earned the right to tell Sparty to "Get the Fuck off my court!"
I'm actually happy that we're in the position to talk some junk. Yeah, it may not be so classy but most of us would've said worse.
Good for Darius. It is your court. You did beat a team that talked relentless shit. You beat a team whose coach promised a win. You beat a player who said, "I can never imagine losing to Michigan". We've earned an attitude.
I agree wholeheartedly. It's not like he is trash talking Northwestern. We won the State championship, swept our rival who sticks us in the ribs every chance they get (remember the 4 guys painted in EL with 1089 or whatever the number of days it was since we had beaten S) and probably secured a NCAA tourney berth. Morris put the ! on the end of that game and told Lucas to get the F off his court and lil bro better get used to it because we have everyone coming back next year!
really need to relax...whats wrong with talking trash to your rival? especially a rival whos coach just about gauranteed a victory, a team you havent swept since 97....let the boys talk it is that edge that will keep that chip on thier shoulder going forward
Probably the same people wearing black at a maize out.
Spare me. This is a minor transgression but a young guy who let his emotions get away from him. Darius Morris is a good kid and Sparty trying to turn this into the story of the day is just them deflecting so that they don't have to swallow their plate of crow.
What's worse, a 20 year old basketball player trash-talking to another notorious trash-talker on the ball court, or a head coach making veiled guarantees in the press? Izzo has accomplished a lot in his career, you'd think he'd be above that kind of stuff.
No, Morris did zero-things wrong. The one with the minor transgression is Lucas. Don't talk if you can't take it.
"Classy" Tom Izzo keeping his starters in, an alley-oop with 10 seconds left and a 40 point blowout. MSU deserves a little comeuppance.
Nice find. I remember that game too, so I don't think a little woofing at the end should really be made into anything more than a part of the rivalry. And in complete fairness, losing by forty should be far more embarrassing than a coach leaving in his starters to rub it in. That was a dark day in UM basketball history, but today may well been the beginning of a new era.
Our jerseys were hideous that year too. There really was nothing good about the Elerbe era.
Should end with this post.
just so I could make sure someone had already posted this.
Thank you.
I really hope he gets asked (in his weekly press conference), "Coach, you complained about Michigan scoring a layup, while up 5, and your D pressing at the end of the game...Were you only upset that they weren't up 60 and didn't throw half-court alley oops?"
whey only lead one time in the whole game...2-1...izzo's boys should just accept the n.i.t bid now and forget about the big ten tourny...they are not good this yr which makes me laugh....