SIAP: Gemon Green had a very good reason for wanting to get through the tunnel as quickly as possible
I haven't seen the original Detroit News reporting on this, but it pretty much undercuts the already-tenuous Sparty argument that Green provoked the assault because he rushed into the tunnel in order to taunt MSU players.
For the "why was he even in the tunnel of his home stadium" crowd...according to the Detroit News, Gemon Green weekly rushes up the tunnel to be ready to see his dad, who is a trucker and drives up from Texas with limited time on his day off.
— MichiganPodcast (@MichiganPodcast) November 1, 2022
November 1st, 2022 at 2:26 PM ^
State trooper, many of which are MSU grads.
November 1st, 2022 at 2:36 PM ^
Sounds like we need Craig and Day-Day...Top Flight Security of the World, Craig!!
November 1st, 2022 at 1:52 PM ^
Looking at the vids, they didn't seem very eager to intervene. Disappointing, actually.
November 1st, 2022 at 2:57 PM ^
They were. They had great seats to watch and did.
November 1st, 2022 at 12:56 PM ^
You should not need an escort to not get assaulted in Ann Arbor—or anywhere else in the US for that matter.
That's like saying "she shouldn't have walked home alone". It's 100% victim blaming.
November 1st, 2022 at 12:59 PM ^
You can pay your escort to do other things besides assault you.
I pay mine to play checkers with me.
November 1st, 2022 at 1:36 PM ^
i bet you let the escort beat you too..... at checkers i mean
November 1st, 2022 at 1:54 PM ^
Must be interesting when s/he says 'King me.'
November 1st, 2022 at 2:13 PM ^
You think that’s interesting? You should see Queening.
November 1st, 2022 at 1:07 PM ^
Unfortunately, that's not how the real world is. What happened to Gemon is unacceptable and the Sparty players involved should be punished accordingly. Whether Gemon and his family want to press charges is completely their prerogative and rightfully so. That said, it is also true that it probably wasn't the smartest move for Gemon to walk into the tunnel by himself while surrounded by Sparty players after a rivalry game in which both teams don't like each other.
No one in their right mind would walk down the worst street in Detroit by themselves at 11:00 p.m. while waving hundred dollar bills over their head. If you did and someone robbed you it's still the person's fault that robbed you and they should be held accountable. Doesn't change that fact that you made a dumb decision and put yourself in a difficult position. That's not "victim blaming" its common sense.
November 1st, 2022 at 1:12 PM ^
This is the dumbest fucking take. Anyone should be able to walk down that tunnel at any goddamn time without fear of getting assaulted. This isn't a dark alley way I the hood. This is Michigan Stadium for chists sake.
There were multiple police officers in that tunnel. There were hundreds of other people down there.
It shouldn't matter when the boys walked through that tunnel. They shouldn't have to worry about being assaulted
November 1st, 2022 at 1:20 PM ^
I don't disagree that it shouldn't matter but, unfortunately, it does. It's sophomoric and naive to say that it doesn't and the fact that it did happen actually proves that.
Listen, I'm not condoning or justifying what happened. I think the Sparty players should be punished accordingly. I'm not saying Gemon deserves any blame or punishment. I'm just saying it probably wasn't the smartest decision for him to walk in there by himself under the circumstances.
November 1st, 2022 at 1:33 PM ^
the fact that it did happen actually proves that.
Lol the first fucking time something like this happens is proof that Green should have known ahead of time? What the fuck is this? How does something think this poorly and yet survive?
November 1st, 2022 at 7:11 PM ^
How does something think this poorly and yet survive?
They go to MSU and get a degree in bs and then join the state police force with their buddies. Then proceed to watch adults assault other adults while doing nothing and collecting a paycheck.
November 1st, 2022 at 2:25 PM ^
There are some stupid fucks that post on here.
November 1st, 2022 at 3:21 PM ^
"I'm not condoning or justifying what happened."
LMAO! Yes, in fact, you are definitely justifying. It's exactly what you're doing.
November 1st, 2022 at 2:30 PM ^
I agree with your statement, but please make it without taking God's name in vain. That's as offensive to a believer as using the N-word is to an African American.
November 1st, 2022 at 2:46 PM ^
Jesus Christ Shut the fuck up you goddamn lunatic
November 1st, 2022 at 2:53 PM ^
Please fuck off, goddammit
November 1st, 2022 at 2:54 PM ^
Now would anyone downvote an Aftrican American for politely asking someone not to use yhe N-word? Were people not incensed over anti-Semetic remarks? Yet someone who asks that a statement that offends Jews, Christians, and Islamics not be violated is downvoted?
"Blessed be those who are persecuted for my name's sake" says the Lord.
November 1st, 2022 at 2:59 PM ^
"Islamics"
U trollin m8
November 1st, 2022 at 3:10 PM ^
My kid was struggling so I bought him Hooked on Islamics.
He Islams much better now.
November 1st, 2022 at 3:22 PM ^
Seriously you don't need a victim complex just because you want to fit in.
November 1st, 2022 at 5:42 PM ^
Jesus was a good juju
November 1st, 2022 at 1:15 PM ^
Wut? It is a fucking tunnel. It is not like he went to MSU players' locker room. Damn. We tell kids to watch where they go. Do we have to do that in our own stadium? This is not East Lansing.
Kid wants to see his dad. I admire that. Let us not put that on him and the reason for him being there to be why this happened. Ok....
November 1st, 2022 at 1:33 PM ^
The fact that you're analogizing Michigan State football players with criminals is exactly the issue at stake here. We shouldn't expect football players to commit assault and battery. Not even after a rivalry game.
November 1st, 2022 at 3:26 PM ^
Yes. The minute you say he should have known better you are saying there should be an expectation of violence. There needs to be zero expectation of violence. These are participants in an athletic event surrounded by security and staff and hosts of bystander witnesses. That's the whole point. It happened anyway.
November 1st, 2022 at 1:52 PM ^
A guy should be able to walk up the tunnel in his home stadium to see his dad without becoming the victim of an aggravated assault. The end.
November 1st, 2022 at 1:56 PM ^
You realize Green is an upperclassmen and has made that very trip dozens of time after a game, right? This time shouldn't have been any different than all those other times.
If this were at Sparty stadium, *maybe* there would be a point, but this is his home. He has a right to walk up the tunnel of his school's stadium at any time, no matter which team they play that day. Good grief.
November 1st, 2022 at 2:33 PM ^
"No one in their right mind would walk down the worst street in Detroit by themselves at 11:00 p.m. while waving hundred dollar bills over their head."
The fact that you think this is a relevant analogy to a tunnel in a stadium in a city with one of the lowest violent crime rates in the state is mind-boggling.
November 1st, 2022 at 4:14 PM ^
Some would say DTOW is making a racially charged statement. Some would.
November 1st, 2022 at 2:37 PM ^
So in your world, as long as the criminal can find a reason to justify the crime as a result of some failure on the part of the victim, then it's not really a crime.
November 1st, 2022 at 5:33 PM ^
It’s the old she was wearing a sexy outfit Wendy.
I thought society has gotten past that absurd defense
November 1st, 2022 at 2:55 PM ^
This has been a thing for ~100 years ! In fact, there's video of both Green and McBurrows walking through the tunnel two weeks earlier - right next to PSU players!
Take you're victim blaming somewhere else.
November 1st, 2022 at 3:01 PM ^
These posts are like slow motion dumb. You can see it coming. Just waiting for the "but" or in this case "that said"
November 1st, 2022 at 3:26 PM ^
This is perhaps the worst comparison I've read in a long time. It is an incredibly dim-witted take.
November 1st, 2022 at 7:08 PM ^
This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. I was going to type out a long response but this is so dumb I can’t even think of something to say other than, wow this is dumb. DTOW, you should go join the Spartans! I hear they love to victim blame and then try to hide their victim blaming over dumbass scenarios like this.
November 1st, 2022 at 1:14 PM ^
That's where the analogy ends. "Don't walk home alone especially on dangerous streets" is good advice. Pretending there aren't things you can do to reduce your own risk of being a victim is, in fact, stupid and dangerous. "Don't walk through your home stadium's tunnel until the road team says you can" is asinine spartylogic.
November 1st, 2022 at 2:51 PM ^
She shouldn't have walked home alone.
November 1st, 2022 at 12:59 PM ^
We are not Louisville!
November 1st, 2022 at 3:28 PM ^
Is that the same as a Cris Carter "Fall Guy", or different?
November 1st, 2022 at 12:52 PM ^
Yep, he was up the tunnel early after the PSU game too, with McBurrows. Someone posted photos as evidence of both of them headed in alongside the PSU players.
November 1st, 2022 at 12:53 PM ^
Why would German not do the same? Maybe this is a dumb question.
Edit: as others have said and been saying, why he was there doesn’t matter at all because he for sure was not there just to start jawing and anyone saying this is evidence of Harbaugh having a bad culture is just Sparty mouthpiece.
November 1st, 2022 at 1:16 PM ^
Actually, that's a great question. One we aren't entitled to know the answer to of course, but nevertheless.
We all know this whole bunch of BS was unjustified. It's dumb that people basically require you to say this in order to ask a simple question.
November 1st, 2022 at 2:55 PM ^
Oh please. It's incredibly obvious that not everyone thinks the beatdown was unjustified. Those people are dumbfucks, but they do exist, so stop pretending your negs are unreasonable.
November 1st, 2022 at 3:14 PM ^
I don't think I've seen a single solitary person, even the MSU people I know, say this was justified.
I've seen more than a few people ask why these two Michigan players were where they were. The natural assumption is that they were jawing where they shouldn't have been. I don't know. You don't know either.
Hell, to me the most logical explanation is, neither player had any idea what had just happened out on the field, so had no idea they should get the hell out of the way.
Yes, I get we don't blame a person for getting knifed in a dark alley at 1 am. Never. But if you aren't thinking "wtf was he doing in a dark alley at 1am" you aren't thinking at all.
November 1st, 2022 at 3:28 PM ^
"I don't think I've seen a single solitary person, even the MSU people I know, say this was justified." I call BS. Direct quotes and even videos have been posted all over this board and other sites of MSU fans as well as randos completely justifying the assaults. You have some serious willful ignorance going on.
November 1st, 2022 at 3:35 PM ^
Carpet bagger are you kidding me? Have you been over to the RCMB board on 247 sports? Go read it and educate yourself.
November 1st, 2022 at 7:36 PM ^
Current players on the Spartan team are posting stuff on Instagram saying it was justified. Literally current players. But let me give you a few quick examples that I found easily and I’m not even on Twitter.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FrittyLoc
https://twitter.com/scott_5410/status/1586676927535923200?s=20&t=8UI8xoJxFgwYqPYn9Mymug
https://twitter.com/flowsandhoes/status/1587059445430996996?s=20&t=8UI8xoJxFgwYqPYn9Mymug
https://twitter.com/pr1s0n_m1k3/status/1587068456742027268?s=20&t=8UI8xoJxFgwYqPYn9Mymug
https://twitter.com/Cardzilla_/status/1586595408461037569?s=20&t=8UI8xoJxFgwYqPYn9Mymug
https://twitter.com/scumfeckler/status/1586598356851245056?s=20&t=8UI8xoJxFgwYqPYn9Mymug
https://twitter.com/BrownsBuckeyes/status/1586718045136982026?s=20&t=8UI8xoJxFgwYqPYn9Mymug
I’ll just throw this in for good measure:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CkZR9s8p1pQ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
November 1st, 2022 at 1:24 PM ^
I seem to recall seeing German being one of the first Michigan players by the tunnel before the rest of the team went up.