Scenario: what happens if we win-out?
I'd like to propose this scenario and get a general discussion back . My buddy and I were arguing about Hoke's future and we couldn't agree. So what say you MGOBLOG nation?
The scenario (as unlikely as it may be) :
Hoke and company win out. This means we beat Penn State under the lights. We beat both Sparty and Ohio on the road. We thus finish 8-4 and and likely second in our division as the winner of the MSU/OSU game will likely finish with only one conference loss. In this scenario would Hoke keep his job?
I argued yes. He would have beaten both main rivals on the road. Won 6 straight. And more importantly finished with 8 wins which we kind of assumed from the beginning of the season that's where we'd end up.
My buddy argues nothing can save Hoke due to concussion gate.
My rebuttal is time heals all wounds and if he wasn't fired immediately there's still a chance. Plus there's no home run coach lined up to succeed him.
Humor me and chime in.
edit: I should mention that this was initially sparked by the topic of whether Hoke really is a "dead man walking" or if we are all just saying that because we want it to be true. We were trying to come up with a scenario in which he would keep his job and this, and only this, was my conclusion whereas my friend thinks nothing can right the ship. ... and I'll let everyone on the secret, we posted this to actually prove a point as well. We've noticed how deplorable this MGoBoard has become and were taking 'bets' on how many downvotes and negative, asinine comments we would gather by morning. All this despite having a CLEAR, LEGIBLE title, so if the topic didn't interest you, one could not click on it. So yeah, I guessed about 80% negative comments. Seems I'm pretty close.
October 7th, 2014 at 1:30 AM ^
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October 7th, 2014 at 6:31 AM ^
People will decide Dave Brandon is a swell guy, after all.
October 7th, 2014 at 7:48 AM ^
God, you're tedious.
October 7th, 2014 at 9:21 AM ^
If both of those happen in succession, I will buy you a pony.
October 7th, 2014 at 5:16 AM ^
here's proof:
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October 7th, 2014 at 6:29 AM ^
Yeah, those are the easy ones. I see you couldn't find any visual evidence of the possibility of M winning 8 games in 2014.
October 7th, 2014 at 6:29 AM ^
Yeah, those are the easy ones. I see you couldn't find any visual evidence of the possibility of M winning 8 games in 2014.
October 7th, 2014 at 6:29 AM ^
Yeah, those are the easy ones. I see you couldn't find any visual evidence of the possibility of M winning 8 games in 2014.
October 7th, 2014 at 9:22 AM ^
Headed to the B1G Championship game until Rutgers runs the table in this scenario.
Assuming they don't and we continue to win out. We'd be 9-4 and in the Capital One Bowl.
Win that and we're 10-4 to finish the season.
...but somehow, I think you already knew that ;-)
October 7th, 2014 at 9:27 AM ^
Wouldn't be fired...neither would Brandon. Hoke would basically get a 1 year extension.
They'd say something like "my agent is working on a deal" and Hoke wouldn't answer any questions about it.
Brandon and Hoke would have an agreement that the team would need to continue to get better or he'd be fired after the 2015 season.
October 7th, 2014 at 1:33 AM ^
Of course he would keep his job.
October 7th, 2014 at 1:34 AM ^
October 7th, 2014 at 8:39 AM ^
Come on. Lions winning the Superbowl? Now you're just being ridiculous.
October 7th, 2014 at 1:36 AM ^
October 7th, 2014 at 9:06 AM ^
So he can't take the damn things off......EVAR.
October 7th, 2014 at 1:37 AM ^
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October 7th, 2014 at 6:10 AM ^
In a thread yesterday, we were dealing with Massey numbers and I think it came out to about a 7%-8% cumulative chance or thereabouts of even being bowl eligible, and an estimated 2% or so if we lost to Penn State, at least using current numbers. If Hoke were somehow to come back from something that relatively unlikely, I would imagine that means that he stays. I suppose then the question would become - "So, what was that 2-4 about then?"
October 7th, 2014 at 7:27 AM ^
but remember when they were terrible and they managed to beat us now and then? I think once under Bobby Williams (sigh-love him) and then they acted like they won the Rose Bowl? I remember thinking that was crazy and they should aim higher. Now that is us!
October 7th, 2014 at 8:13 AM ^
October 7th, 2014 at 8:45 AM ^
That was the first time in my life I've ever been outraged over Michigan Football; that's basically a weekly occurance now. In retrospect, how insane is it that a program could provide it's own clock operators for a contest? I'm surprised there weren't more conflicts of interests like that over the years.
October 7th, 2014 at 8:16 AM ^
Under Williams it would have been 2001. That was a big year for them. They beat both their rivals, Michigan AND Central.
October 7th, 2014 at 8:48 AM ^
The Mighty Chips are actually an impressive 3-6 against Michigan St.
October 7th, 2014 at 9:47 AM ^
is some impossible scenario. Losing Green hurt though. If our secondary can get healthy I thiink that will be a close game. Peppers has to get healthy though and I don't know if that is in the cards anytime soon. In about two halfs of football it became clear to me that he was already our engine on defense. The team really fed off of his confidence and general competitive disposition.
October 7th, 2014 at 1:37 AM ^
If Hoke were able to do that, I'd still remove him for sandbagging the first half of the season, I couldn't believe that the light just came on in the 2nd half of the season.
October 7th, 2014 at 1:37 AM ^
Jokes!
October 7th, 2014 at 1:39 AM ^
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October 7th, 2014 at 4:03 AM ^
October 7th, 2014 at 1:39 AM ^
You'll hear a voice in the midst of the four beasts and you'll look and behold: a pale horse. And his name, that sits upon him, will be Death. And hell will follow with him.
October 7th, 2014 at 2:25 AM ^
AND THE WHIRLWIND
IS IN THE THORN TREES
October 7th, 2014 at 1:42 AM ^
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October 7th, 2014 at 1:54 AM ^
I still don't think it's good enought, but it would be a welcome achievment.
October 7th, 2014 at 1:57 AM ^
More likely scenarios:
Zombie Eugene Debs wins the 2016 Presidential election
Nintendo's next console has no gimmick and is just focused on impressive graphical power
Hollywood goes a year without releasing a sequel or remake
Peace in the Middle East
The Lions win the Super Bowl
October 7th, 2014 at 2:01 AM ^
October 7th, 2014 at 2:33 AM ^
Frankly I would have to agree with you Swang... The likelihood of beating MSU and OSU on the road would be so eye-catching as to draw scrutiny.
October 7th, 2014 at 2:01 AM ^
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October 7th, 2014 at 2:59 AM ^
I don't know what will happen if we win out, but I DO know what will happen after our next game, win or lose: someone will post this exact same topic, leaving the rest of us to roll our eyes, groan, and pass this off for the impossibility that it is.
October 7th, 2014 at 7:14 AM ^
October 7th, 2014 at 3:04 AM ^