Im saying right now our defense will be top 30 in the nation ... Will Campbell will be a beast
Presser Notes 8/8
into the yardage totals, head over to Football Outsiders, read up on FEI, and find a much more effective way of looking at the performance of defenses and offenses.
Or just watch any game from last year. That should tell you everything you need rovings about how bad we were. In particular, watch OSU, Wisconsin and he gator bowl.
I don't know why people need to look at complicated stats and metrics to figure out things that are obvious.
Ha. Yes, watch games against 3 out of our 4 toughest opponents who had a combined record of 31-6 to tell you everything you need to know about our team last year.
If I recall correctly, we had 2 weeks to game prep for Penn State last year, and their walk-on QB was starting his first game. They tore us up pretty good. I don't think our defense was very good last year.
I think you would have a very hard time finding someone who thought our defense played well last year in any game that wasn't Purdue or UConn.
Our defense didn't play particularly well for the UConn game either. UConn shot themselves in the foot more than we stopped them. I'm glad we will see better defense this year!
Or you could watch the Illinois game, or Sparty, or UMASS...
Oh I wasn't suggesting our defense was good last year. I was suggesting that you can make anything look bad when you only look at games you play against two 11-1 teams that both went to BCS bowls and a 9 win SEC team. I do find it funny you pointed to 2 wins and a loss to another 11-1 team.
That's one thing you can't lay exclusively at the feet of RR. The soft zones on third-and-forever have been a consistent "feature" of our defenses since Bo was coach. They were a frequently infuriating aspect of our defenses under Carr, too, with the exception of 1997.
What makes it worse is that those soft zones on third down have frequently been accompanied by three-man fronts that put absolutely no pressure on the QB, allowing him ample time to find open receivers underneath our coverage.
@freepwolverines: UM C David Molk on difference in practices: "less yelling... Coach Rod was a yeller. Great guy but liked to yell."
@chengelis Woolfolk on why D will be better: "because of one word -- intensity"
@mikerothstein Van Bergen's specialty cooking food: "pineapple glazed salmon."
Thanks for the info.
I saw nothing on the main board yet, and I have had tweets rolling in. Figured I'd give the MGoMasses something to feed our appetites.
I was wondering where all the updates were considering this was the first day of practice... And for those of us who dont tweet we need the updates on here so thanks and keep posting
I'm bored, sitting around my house. Got my Twitter open. If you keep refreshing this thread, I'll keep updating if any relevant tweets come through.
Yeah 342 was a lot of person.
Thanks for the information. The news on Will Campbell's weight is good news indeed. Van Bergen's diet is amazing. I'd turn into a blimp in a week with that number of calories!
but Chengelis said on her Twitter account that RVB looks leaner, even with the added weight.
these things, thanks for the news. I think this team is going to surprise some people this year.
Unrelated, but can't create a new topic. The ND game from last year is currently being played on the new scoreboard. Looks pretty good.
excited about these new scoreboards. It was much needed.
Is anyone else starting to get concerned about the progress with the scoreboards? They've barely started on the back paneling of the south end scoreboard and they still have paneling to go on the north end. I feel they might be cutting it close before Sept. 3.
They're deliberately not paneling it up in case they find errors, etc with the board itself. It gives the workers more light and space to work in while fixing what matters. Securing premade panels to the back of the frame will take less than a week. Likely a couple days if you run two shifts on it.
Oh good, that makes sense and is reassuring to hear.
looks like the old nautique id skieed behind a coouple times at jepawhit
It's a Super Air Nautique 220 followed by a Ski Nautique (if you look closely under the top of the 1st boat you can see the 2nd boat).
thought thats what it was.
Does anyone have a link to the stadium cam, I dont see it on Mgoblue now?
So if the reports of Roh weighing 270 are correct, and assuming Mike Martin weighs about the same as last year, our DL will weigh 290-300-318-270 across the line. That is a massive defensive line.
For you sociology majors, that's 294.5lbs per player. Some teams' biggest D-lineman doesn't weigh that much.
but I'd love to see a comparison to the last few years of DL size. Seems awful big for a typical DL.
Last year, our three DL to start the season were RVB (283), MM (299) and Greg Banks (285, I think). When Roh came up and we went 4 down, Roh added 251. Obviously this is much better.
Go to Rivals top 120 countdown and look at their depth charts. Not many teams will stack up to us in this department. Then again, out guys' weights in there are out of date, so mosy other teams' are too.
I had a class with Craig Roh this past winter semester, and dude was eating ALL the time. He brought all kinds of like powerbars, things like that. He's gonna be a monster on the line.
It's great that Big Will is losing weight, he'll definitly be faster and more agile. But the thing that worried me the most about Will from the past two seasons and the spring game was his pad level...he'd get too high and the o-line man would get a hold of him and he'd be done. If he improves that, than he could be one of the best comeback stories ever and one of the great Michigan interior lineman.
that gives me great hope with BWC going forward, it's that he has Hoke and Mattison, who are DL specialists, to help teach.
Don't forget DL coach Jerry Montgomery, whom (who?) Hoke described as "tremendous" about five times
Campbell should be getting a lot of instruction. If he doesn't pan out at this point, it's gonna be his own doing.
pretty sure it's "whom" since Montgomery is the object being described.
That's what I was thinking, but I wasn't sure. I thought I would sound like an idiot if I tried to be fancy and say "whom" if I was wrong.. So I had to put that little disclaimer. Thanks!
Lose the gut and it becomes easier to bend at the waist. Also as players get fatigued, technique tends to go out the door. His weight has been holding him back since he set foot on campus. The talent has always been there, it is nice to see the staff bringing the best out in him.
Very good news, and very helpful for those of us without the twitter.
Nice to see that we'll have a monster DL, but the speed of Campbell and Woolfolk is the most exciting for me. We need those guys to step up
Wow awesome news with Big Will. I can't wait for the season to start!
It has to be comforting for Big Will to know, if he can't handle the job, all he has to do it let Coach Mattison know. Initial reports are Big Will responded well to the challenge. This will be one of the more interesting stories to follow this season. I'm pulling for you big fella.
we now know who the school is in the "10 story" on Yahoo!Sports. You aren't going to believe it:
Those damn slimy bastards. There must've been improper benefits during that Triwizard Tournament. I mean, they had two competitors!
It appears that He Who Shall Not Be Named named names.
Kinda OT but I don't think this deserves it's own thread, and I couldn't make one anyway. On CFL they have Rittenberg on the phone about Stonum... he basically says we have pretty good depth but losing your number two reciever is going to hurt no matter what. Wow, that's insightful.
Then says that while some may be thinking that Hoke is coming down harder on players than Rich, it's not entirely true and things should be taken on a case-by-case basis. He mentioned Feagin as an example of Rich Rod disiplining.
At the end he said it was a good response by Hoke to show he isn't afraid of penalizing his players and that it in addition establishs a basis for disiplinary action early in his tenure.
AKA, nothing that big, but it's always fun to see them talking about Michigan on CFL.
You're right, it doesn't sound like anything new, but there was a little bit of good insight there. I agree about the depth: losing a solid WR is never good, but at least it's at one of our deeper positions.
- I wonder if updated roster weights will be published soon? I sems to recall RR allowing them to be released soon after Fall Camp started last year.
- Sort of surprised that RVB only added 7 pounds with the huge increase in calories. Of course, these guys have eating AND exercise regimens the rest of us can't even relate to. (Well, at least the exercise part!)
They put me on a 12,000 calorie diet as a freshman at ball state. For breakfast I had a dozen hard boiled eggs, every day. I only ate the yolk in 3-4 of them, but usally I'd have those eggs and then a normal breakfast of pancakes, french toast, sausage, bacon, and scrambled eggs.
12000 calories a day takes all the fun out of overeating. Trying to come up with enough loose change to buy 5 Taco Bell quesadillas each night to get the last few thousand calories had to be stressful.
I've been F5ing the mgoblue roster all day, so I hope they post them soon.
Re: RVB's weight, it was also reported that he looks slimmer despite adding the weight, so it's possible he added 15lbs of good weight and lost 8lbs of fat. For a 6'6" guy to look noticeably slimmer, he'd have to lose a decent amount of bad weight.
Right now, that is the thing that I am looking forward to the most... Man, what a D-Line! I thought BWC would only cut 20 or something like that... but 30? Damn. Also, it will be awesome to see in numbers how much the skill position players built and how big the LBs are now. I am so glad we are not going to be undersized anymore. (Also, don't forget Hopkins who may be down to 225)
I have a 2nd hand story (my brother plays baseball with Craig's cousin), but I found it really interesting. Craig is on a very similar diet to Ryan and he has to weigh in every week with a set weight that he is supposed to get to each time. Basically, if he doesn't achieve the designated weight gain he has to wear an Ohio State shirt around, I can't remember what the shirt says, but it's clearly a shirt designed to incense Roh. Thought this was an interesting tactic to help him gain weight and I don't know how many players they are using this method on for motivation.
That's a great story, and it sounds like a tactic that would work pretty well.
an "Ohio" shirt my friend.
We all make mistakes, here is a picture of Hoke pointing at me telling me to not let it happen again.
Totally redeemed yourself!
Yeah, we just call them Ohio now.
It's Ohio State, OSU, O State, whatever. It one thing if there was no Ohio University, but there is.
Eh. He doesn't call them "Ohio University". He calls them "Ohio". Everybody calls MSU "State" even though there are lots of other schools that also go by "State". I'm fine with it.
RR didn't have the kickers practice in the stadium? Seems like a pretty basic idea and seeing as how he tried everything else, you think he would have done that.
We ought to look into firing that guy.
Comment of the year.
he did or didn't do that.
so when we got barwis we talked about how much better our players looked and how much weight they gained/lost and how they were gonna be the the most in-shape team in the nation. now we have a new strength coach and we are talking how much better our players look and how much weight they gained/lost and how they are going to be the most in-shape team in the nation. i just think its funny, hope we are as in-shape as possible regardless of the strength coach
Yes it really all means nothing. Every team in the country is saying the same things right now. Player A lost 20lbs, he will be so much faster and more athletic!!!!!!! Player B has gained 15lbs, he is going to be a force and absolute beast this season!!!!!
If true thats a great story about Roh.
I saw BWC in, of all places, my hometown in the Upper Penninsula for Bessemer's (a small town) 4th of July celebration. Turns out he is good friends with a young lady from Bessemer whom I also know. I spoke with him briefly and he was very friendly and extremely polite, even with some drunk ass Iowa fans giving him shit.
Not a great story, but I wanted to let people know that he really represents Michigan football well.
I see BWC at the CCRB every once in a while playing basketball and is always really nice and funny. Same thing with Chris Barnett both really nice and friendly guys.
I've been to Bessemer a few times. As you surely know, it has an interesting history:
What on earth were Iowans doing way up there?
Also, I'll bet BWC looked like a reindeer in Harlem.
....Speedboys! I hope Big Will got some Yooper love from Speedboy Nation.
I've got a close friend whose family is from Bessemer. He goes back up there at least once a year.
It's fun to picture Big Will up there with the Yoopers.
This team is going to be special. Forget about weight gain and weight loss. Just listen to how they talk about each other, how much accountability there is, how they all get along, how they want it for Michigan.
2 more, probably 1 games suspensions coming according to Balas..No other details
Son of a trick!
Supposedly one is Hopkins.
NEED Countdown to Kickoff Video. Come on!!!!
are they posting it tonight?
The Mgoblue video seems to be non-browser-crippling today
Also, I don't think I really like this -- at least not unless the O-Line puts on a ton more weight
-Hoke says we need to rely on 1)Power run, 2)Set pass up from there, and 3) the 2 min offense"
of our oline last year? Compare that to others and we weren't far off. Some people make it sound like we had a bunch of guys that weighed 260 lbs running around. Seriously, go back and look at how much they weighed...I think it will surprise you.