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|6 days 10 hours ago||Okay.||
First off, it was a bad foul because he was badly beaten. Second, to answer your question, hHe was dramatically out of position on a corner three later in the second half by Wisconsin. I don't know why you think you have to physically in attendance to see that. I also don't know what meme I'm beating to death. The one that claims Chatman is not very good? I hope he ends up great, but he looks completely lost.
|6 days 11 hours ago||Yes there is, and he is a||
Yes there is, and he is a terrible defender. He commits awful fouls like the hold on Kamisky in OT. He is not good.
|6 days 11 hours ago||Great hustle||
Great hustle from everyone, especially Walton. I can't help but think how much better this team would be if Chatman was functional (like a 3/4 Doyle). It's early, but all the red-flags for bust alert are fully raised. Thankfully the lesser rated guys are looking like they'll outperform their rankings-- MAAR looked very good tonight and Dawkins showed flashes.
|1 week 2 days ago||It is cheating. Just like||
It is cheating. Just like filming opposing signals is cheating. And yet Bill Simmons and his Boston blowing buddies will scream and cry about how it's no big deal. They'll also tell you about the Seahawks PED usage, but swear up and down that Ted Brewskis having a stroke in his early 30s had nothing to do with peds. They'll tell you that Rodney Harrison, who bought HGH under his own goddamn name, was just doing what everyone else was. Bill Bellichik could shoot an opposing playing with a shotgun at midfield and pats fans would say it was fair because the player could see he had the gun.
|1 week 4 days ago||???||
First off, I the fact that players have cheated for a long time doesn't make it somehow okay. "Old fashioned" referred to the moralizing sentiment that cheating is wrong. Second, I don't think the following prinicple applies:
"As long as it's part of the game (equipment, etc) that the opponent can detect and not performance enhancing drugs that can't be detected, that's part of sports."
I fail to see how deflated game balls is easy to detect. It's not like the defense gets to examine the ball before every play. Doctoring the game ball is like using a corked bat, it's cheating and it's bullshit that players do it and fans act like it's fine. Putting shit on the ball in baseball is cheating. It's wrong. Paying players in college athletics is cheating is and wrong (though it should be permitted). I don't give a shit that people have convinced themselves that Wooden was a saint. They are wrong. I don't give a shit that dirtbag fans think putting tar or spit on the ball is okay. They are wrong.
It's not like holding, or interefering with a receiver, or anyone of the dozens of fouls that are penalized within the rules of the game. It's not like deflating the game ball is a 15 yard penalty or something like that. If true (and that's a big if), then it's a flagarant attempt to go outside the rules of the game to win. That's cheating, and it's wrong.
|1 week 4 days ago||Just because||
I'm not a Colts fan, but just because the Pats would have won anyway doesn't make this meaningless. Call me old fashioned, but cheating is wrong and unsportsmanlike. And this, unlike the trick play against the Ravens (which was legit), is obviously cheating (if true, of course).
The Pats have a history of cheating with the Spygate scandal, which makes this more interesting. Given the slap on the wrist the NFL gave them after that, I wouldn't be surprised if Goodell gives them an extra draft pick for this. It's the least Goodell could do after the thorough dick sucking Bob Kraft has given him this season.
|1 week 6 days ago||Re: Donnal||
I think he is the worst Michigan basketball player I have ever seen. I don't expect him to make a field goal, because that's kinda hard, but now I don't even expect him to make a free throw, get a rebound, or play help defense without fouling. He even managed a without the ball charge this half. He's like a one man Keystone Cops out there.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Anyone who thinks this is||
Anyone who thinks this is anything but a big fucking kick in the nuts for Michigan is an idiot. Meyer was already a huge name coach, and now he's showing that he's the best in college football. Their recruiting will hit Alabama levels and even Harbaugh will be hard pressed to keep up. Just such bullshit. They cheat, have one bad season and get fucking Urban Meyer. Meanwhile, we hire Rich Rod and then Brady Fucking Hoke and set the program back decades.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Playing Donnal||
Playing Donnal and Chatman at the same time is just giving up. You can't expect the other 3 guys to cover for them on both ends.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Wait a minute,||
All I had to do to get a full ride to Michigan was beat LesMilesMafia at one-on-one?!!!
|2 weeks 6 days ago||If you replace||
If you replace Donnal and Chatman with merely mediocre D1 players, this would easily be a tournament team. Chatman looks like he's never played basketball before in his life. It's not Beilen's system that leads one to foul two (!) 3 point shooters in about 3 minutes of game play. It's having a terrible understanding of fundamental defensive principles. On offense he shot faked (good!) then took a pull-up long range 2 (bad!).
Donnal at least looks like he's trying real hard, but he can't make a shot. He doesn't stretch the floor at all, because who would both guarding him behind the line? Frustrating.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||I just don't see||
I just don't see where you are drawing this conclusion from. Barwis's methods seemed to work fine at WVU, and his guys seemed plently well conditioned in 2011 when Van Bergen and Martin where playing every snap (unless you attribute that to Wellman, which still doesn't help your case). Turley's Stanford Supermen only went 8-5 this year. I just don't think a relative S & C advantage amounts to much.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||This board||
This board's obessesion with S & C coaches is ridiculous. I'm sure there are better and worse S&C guys, but you all are vastly over-estimating the the difference between a good and a merely competent S&C coach. I think Turley is a better coach than Tolbert, but I don't think it will make much difference in on-field results. It's not like Stanford was producing Supermen that dominated all of college and later pro-football while other schools trotted out skinny-fat weaklings.
Barwis came in with a great reputation, everyone loved him, and now people talk about how terrible he was. Same story with Wellman. People always bitch about the players looking weak. What you are seeing is players get pushed around because they are playing with poor technique and/or failing to understand where they need to be or what they need to be doing. If you want to see guys look strong on the field, teach them to understand the scheme and to play with sound positioning. If you have that and competent S&C, you'll win games and all the "Oh my god, the line is sooo weak" bullshit observations will disappear.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||PG play||
PG play has been terrible tonight, and that's where we have the most experience. Barf.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I didn't expect the elite 8||
I didn't expect a run to the Elite Eight or anything this year, but this offense is nearly Michigan Football-level embarassing. It's inexcusable, but I worry more about future seasons.
I know Beilen is a good coach, he took Zak Novak at the 4 and won a Big Ten title. The evidence suggests that Donnal and Chatman are all getting high-quality coaching. Given that, their inability be anything other than woeful on the court suggests they are recruiting busts. Chatman might turn it around since he's so young, but I've given up on Donnal and he's going to bearound for at least 2 more seasons. Dawkins and Doyle have flashed some ability and DJ Wilson is a redshirt lock. Who is going to carry this team when LeVert leaves, which I think will still be this year? Irving is a trainwreck, Walton wasn't going to be a Trey Burke-type even before this season's injury/regression from him.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||It appears the||
It appears (from this thread) the "In Beilen We Trust" crowd isn't watching this game. He's a great coach, but his recruiting wiffs are hurting us big-time this year.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Not much else to say||
This team fucking sucks. We all knew the defense would struggle, but the offense has been a Hoke-ian level disappointment. You would at least think that the stretch 4/5's would produce on the offensive end, but they are both brutal. Should've at least recruited one legit big man instead of Mark Donnal.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Can't remember||
I can't remember the last time I saw a player play as bad as Irvin today. He's blow at least 3 complete lay-ups.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Is this going to be the second lose on an Irving blown dunk??||
Is this going to be the second lose on an Irving blown dunk??
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Dakich calling for us to feed||
Dakich calling for us to feed Donnal is ridiculous. Michigan is doing all they can to cover for him on both ends.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Pretty sure I have played rec||
Pretty sure I have played rec league with guys better than Donnal.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||You would think we could play||
You would think we could play spike at the point and someone like Dawkins at sg. We are deepest at the guard spots.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Donnal is worse than awful.||
Donnal is worse than awful. He should not play meaningful time.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I wouldn't mind having a graham cracker at center right now.||
I wouldn't mind having a graham cracker at center right now.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Donnal is still awful. Sad face.||
Donnal is still awful. Sad face.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Donnal is awful.||
Donnal is awful.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||I LeVert is an excellent||
I LeVert is an excellent second option type player, but any team that depends on him as the superstar isn't going to be very competitive. He just isn't that type of player and this team is forcing him into that role.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||You know a couple of nfl head coaches?||
You know a couple of nfl head coaches?
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Go fuck yourself||
Go fuck yourself.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Gotta say, I think the value||
Gotta say, I think the value of a stretch big is being oversold by Michigan's staff. True hoop had a feature on classifying bigs, and most stretch bigs had their offensive improvement offset by their defensive liability. That was at the nba level, but think it holds at the college level too. Kamenski is the exception instead of the rule. We have bunch of guys who are (supposedly) skilled on the outside and can't rebound, defend the post, or block shots.