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|15 hours 56 min ago||Pg is a position of need in||
Pg is a position of need in his class, but 7 and 2 a games in his second year doesn't exactly scream high upside.
|1 day 14 hours ago||People keep fucking talking||
People keep fucking talking about Kentucky in 2013 but they were not this bad and their recruiting was light years ahead of Michigan. I'm sure michigan will be much better next year, but the transition will look nothing like what happen at Kentucky
|1 day 14 hours ago||Kentucky still made the nit||
Kentucky still made the nit in their off year. A team can have an off year and still break 500 in a weak conference.
|1 day 22 hours ago||Why shouldn't we blame the||
Why shouldn't we blame the principles? If we had fouled, we likely would have won, young or not. The principles are much easier to change than the age of the players, and could hurt the team again in the future, so why shouldn't they be the focus.
|2 days 43 min ago||I don't think the problem||
I don't think this team zone problems are on offense. The problem is that they cannot cover the corner 3 in either of the zones they run (2-3, 1-3-1). They are bad in man-to-man, but I'd prefer they would just stay in man. Once the novelty of the 1-3-1 wears off, as it does quickly in conference play, it takes a lot of practice to run it effectively (it's more aggressive than most zone defenses). We don't have that experience with it. Our 2-3 is clearly something we very rarely run and hence it isn't run very well. The spacing looks like total shit, even to my untrained eye, and they always seem late in getting it set-up.
The injures have really hurt our man defense. Spike's a very good college player, but Walton was a much better defender. I saw Spike call for about 3 or 4 switches, with different players, during a single 20 second possession in man defense. You have to fight through some of those off the ball screens, especially with a team this young-- freshman are doing all they can just to cover their man, they're going to get confused when you keep switching on the screens. There was another possesion where Chatman looked pissed at Spike for calling for switch (though maybe that was on Chatman, it was tough to tell). I think he's also worse than Walton in helping off on the big. He often helps too late. The bigs are poor defenders, but they're so young and/or undersized that there isn't much more you could reasonably expect. They need good help defenders and there aren't any.
|2 days 1 hour ago||Sadly,||
Sadly, I said that same thing last year.
|2 days 1 hour ago||They've been good||
I think they've been good in past years on scoring from an inbound from under their own basket, but the concern tonight was inbounding under the opponent's basket. I don't know of a good way of statistically assessing those types of inbounds, since points earned off this kind of inbound is really a measure of successful offensive plays and not the inbounding play. The number of 5 second penalties a team receives and the number of times they must use in such situations would be a reasonable measure, but I've never seen it (only the BOB, SOB points scored data).
|2 days 1 hour ago||I don't think||
I don't think inbounding can be a personnel thing since it seemed to be a problem with other personnel as well. Further, sometimes the plays themselves just seem badly designed. That Beifeldt inbounds 1/2 court bomb was crazy stupid. I know you don't have many options in that scenario but (1) even if Irvining caught it it would have been a half-court shot, which you could get throwing it a much shorter distance and having the guy run into the shot and (2) the absolute worst thing you can do is bomb it out-of-bounds without it touching anything inbounds. That play call offered a huge risk for very little reward. On the whole, it's not a massive problem. But it is, I think, a coaching problem.
|2 days 1 hour ago||If it's smarter||
If it's smarter to foul, then the logic isn't sound. I do agree that long-time coaches rarely deviate from their policy on fouling at the end of games. Most refuse to do it at all. They still ought to do it, though. The inbounding disasters and the inability to cover the corner three in both 2-3 and 1-3-1 zones are much greater concerns, in my view.
|2 days 1 hour ago||???||
I agree with some of this, because people saying fire Beilen are over reacting. But without the injuries we would be winning games now, which is way better than possibly winning games in the future. Remember when we all said "Oh man, McGary got hurt, but he'll be back next year and we will so awesome then!" Well guess what, shit happened and he never came back. Next year MAAR and Dawkins might be injured, Walton might not be at the level he would be had he played another season, some random big *coughJonHorfortcough* might decide to transfer for no discernable reason. We have no choice but to put our faith in next season, given what a piss and shit show this year has been. But I'd much rather not have to do that.
|2 days 1 hour ago||What part of clutch three||
What part of clutch three-hitting induced Michigan to shit the bed (AGAIN!) on an inbounds play and turn the ball over? And that wasn't even the worst inbound call, since the Bielfielt 1/2 court bomb was full on monkey rodeo.
|2 days 1 hour ago||You realize||
You realize that saying Beilen has performed poorly in this particular game (or even this particular season) is not the same as saying his should be fired, right?
|2 days 1 hour ago||Really?||
I don't think it's too much to expect Michigan to make the NIT, which is very unlikely at this point. Is it too much to expect Michigan to manage to beat a horrible Northwestern team when they are leading by five with less than a minute left?
|2 days 1 hour ago||Except Michigan loses in basketball.||
Except Michigan loses in basketball.
|2 days 1 hour ago||This is the Basketball||
This is the Basketball version of michigan nw football the last two years. A fucking sad joke.
|2 days 2 hours ago||How many fucking games would||
How many fucking games would we have won if we could inbound the ball?? Are you fucking kidding me?
|3 days 22 hours ago||But does she play clash of clans?!||
But does she play clash of clans?!
|5 days 1 hour ago||Every offseason||
Every offseason fans of every school that changes S & C coaches says this same damn thing. To give just the exmaples from Michigan, people said it with Barwis while they bitched about Lloyd Carr giving everybody pizzas. They said it with Wellman while they bitched about Barwis. Now they'll say it about Tolbert and bitch about Wellman, even before a single game is played. And if Tolbert gets fired, they'll say it about the next guy while they bitch about Tolbert.
|5 days 1 hour ago||I'd rather do||
I'd rather do what maximized my expected minutes from my best player, whether or not those come in the first or second half. What makes you think that MAAR was going to foul out with five minutes left if he isn't benched after two fouls but Dakich only plays three minutes in the other situation? Do you think MAAR is somehow more likely to pick up fouls in the first half than in the second?
Why do you think 3 minutes at the end of the game is more important than 3 minutes at the start? That just seems like narrative trumping fact. The only argument I could see is that Dakich would play worse during the final 3 minutes compared to the opening 3 minutes because of nerves, or that MAAR would play better in the final 3 minutes than the first 3 minutes because of magic reverse nerves. I've seen anything to suggest that from either guy. But still, even if you accept that you have to weigh the improvement in play in the final minutes against the reduction in time played for your better. If MAAR was very foul prone, then maybe he needs to sit a lot of the first and second halves to save him for the final minutes when he (for some reason) plays better. But he's not. Unless you think Maryland "going after him" in the first half was going to vastly increase his expected rate of fouling, you should play him. After the fact, we can see that he only committed one foul going full tilt in the second half. Hence benching him was wrong in this game unless he would have picked up two fouls during the time he was benched. May be he would have, but it's very unlikely. So it looks like it was wrong to bench him.
|5 days 6 hours ago||Would you rather have MAAR||
Would you rather have MAAR playing soft defense and his usual offense or Andrew Dakich going full tilt? All due respect to Dakich, I will take the limited MAAR. The auto bench just ensures that the other team gets more time playing against Dakich. When the bench is this thin, you can't do it. Coach B is screwed because guys like Dakich have to play to keep the starters somewhat fresh, regardless of fouls, but his foul policy hurt him here.
|5 days 6 hours ago||I'm puzzled by this and||
I'm puzzled by this and MGoBender's response. Do points scored in the first half count less than those one the second half? Why wouldn't Izzo go after MAAR to start the second half to get him his third foul? It's not like Izzo has a magic foul wand that only works in the first half of the game. The idea that games aren't won in the first half is exactly the traditionalist argument that this blog and other game theory analytic people oppose. Points are points,regardless of when or how they are scored. This is no different than kneeling out the first half in football.
|1 week 1 day ago||Interesting||
Interesting. I struggle to get that reading of Brian's piece, since he has no problem with cutting through nuance in other works. E.g., would the nuances of Frank Clark's case be best captured by calling Clark a "dog shit human being"? Because, ALTHOUGH I don't think it's fair to call Clark that, as a domestic abuser with little appreciation of the immorality of his actions he has a far greater claim to that description than some jackass CEO type who raised ticket prices. Maybe it's just an inconsistency between the pieces, but Brian seems more than happy to offer a full-throated moral assessment when someone has done bad things. You might think the difference between Brandon and Clark's issues is epistemic-- we just don't have enough info to judge Clark. But at this point that seems silly. We not only have evidence of what he did, but also that he doesn't appreciate the seriousness of what he did. Of course it's possible he comes to appreciate it, but it's also possible Brandon sees the light and recants all he's done to Michigan. Neither seems very likely.
|1 week 1 day ago||Good Brian is around to||
Good Brian is around to chastise everyone for chastising Clark. I'm sure all his critics really regret what they said now that he's told his side of the story. /s. Seriously though, Clark's response in an interview setting with time to prep was terrible and screams repeat offender.
|1 week 4 days ago||Here to take some negs. I've||
Here to take some negs. I've dumped on Chatman in game threads, but he played well in his limited time today. So now I take my medicine.
|1 week 4 days ago||Don't worry guys, we got this in OT||
Don't worry guys, we got this in OT
|1 week 4 days ago||1 3 1, in bounding fuck up,||
1 3 1, in bounding fuck up, please change the ending of this movie
|1 week 4 days ago||Fucking 1 3 1||
Fucking 1 3 1
|2 weeks 2 days ago||For what||
I ask honestly, good motivation for what? The next game? The NIT? The players don't look unmotivated. They look young (in most cases) and not all that talented (in a few cases I won't mention by name). This loss didn't cost Michigan anything important, but I find it hard to believe Michigan gained anything by it either.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||You might be right||
You might be right, but it's a bit like rain your wedding day to see posters blame all this on injury and attrition when people absolutely shit on MSU for doing the same thing last year.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||At least this one||
At least this one isn't on the coaching. Team is vastly under-talented. MAAR, Dawkins, and Doyle should be much better next year, but if Caris leaves I worry we still won't have enough to compete for a Big Ten Title/Final Four. Hope he sticks around.