A Prayer to the Banhammer God

Submitted by dmccoy on
The King of Belch, proud owner of a -800 vote tally should be banned. Today. He's an idiot at best and more likely a troll that adds nothing to the boards or the site. Some of his work: Tressel Gets it, UM Doesn't, as Usual And neither do UM fans, all aghast in snobbery. We may never beat them again. They get a special joy out of this rivalry, don't they? They just enjoy beating Michigan--and they've had a lot of practice at that lately. I hate 'em; always have. But they do things that show they really, REALLY know what this game is all about (insert usual Michigan Fan myopic Cooper Years reference here). This isn't a cherry-picked example. In fact, as far back as I looked, the aforementioned "King of Belch" does nothing other than belch vitriol and negativity. If anyone can link to a single constructive post he has ever made I'd be shocked. The points people earn serve a purpose, they call attention to trolls like this one. I've voiced controversial opinions and been "negged" for it, and I've been in the minority more often than not. And I haven't managed to garner nearly the amount of negative points as this poster has. This isn't a case where someone commonly has a minority or controversial point of view, this is a case where someone purposefully spouts inflammatory comments. In my opinion, someone should drop the hammer and get this guy out of here. Read his stuff. If you think he shouldn't be banned voice your support. If you think he's a troll, voice that as well. EDIT: So far exactly zero votes for a ban. I guess that's that. 2nd EDIT: Congratulations to the King of Belch, he has generated more comments than any MGoBoard thread since September 21, with none of them calling for a ban.
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dmccoy

November 5th, 2009 at 12:36 PM ^

Upset enough to post about it. Aside from the hosts' of the site material, the primary asset of the site is the input of the users, and this particular user is a serious detractor from the quality of the site.

Joined: 01/31/2009

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a non emu

November 5th, 2009 at 2:04 PM ^

Somehow I hate this voice-of-reason act of yours even more than I hated the stuff that you posted when you were the board's primary troll. Somehow seems dishonest. You come across as a malleable crowd pleaser obsessed with your whose-line-is-it-anyway points. I don't get it. You post on everything, and usually nothing of consequence. At least tKoB is entertaining. He is inflammatory, sure, but I like to hear the occasional dissenting voice. But you, I think you just like hearing the sound of your own pompous little squeaks.

Joined: 06/30/2008

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bouje

November 5th, 2009 at 2:15 PM ^

And that's fine but sure not every post of mine is "quality" and informative but I think that I add value to the board. But if MGoBlog users really hate me this much then I'll leave and just lurk. Frankly I have already cut down on my posting and don't reply to as many topics as I have in the past. I think it's quite juvenile though for you to say "I think that I just like hearing the sound of your own pompous little squeaks". But I guess we are all entitled to their opinion. Finally, this is not an act. You can ask my friends how I feel at this time about Michigan football and I've tried to pull as many of them off the ledge as possible.

Joined: 09/30/2008

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CWoodson

November 5th, 2009 at 4:04 PM ^

I can't imagine enjoying it on a board like this unless you're a ND/OSU/MSU fan. I actually never got it at all until I found this tiny political blog (that literally must have 10 readers) and I've been trolling his comments for a year. I feel justified because he doesn't link to anything or support his arguments (which are offensive anyway). He started linking to one Exxon-funded study over and over in his "global warming is a left-wing ruse" posts, which I had a lot of fun with. He only posts 3-4 times a month, so it's not much work, and I get a lot of satisfaction about being this guy's one troll. I feel like it must drive him nuts. Which is all to say - I don't really get it, but there is the occasional perk.

Joined: 09/15/2009

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octal9

November 5th, 2009 at 12:42 PM ^

He's not doing anything horrible. You and others (edit for clarity: myself included) just don't agree with him. He's not posting purposefully inflammatory remarks just to get a rise/response out of people (trolling). He's not spamming. He's not bumping useless threads. He's not spouting off particularly offensive remarks. He's just negative. Coming from a background of forum moderation/administration, there's nothing particularly bannable here. It'd be a poor show of community management.

Joined: 11/11/2008

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dmccoy

November 5th, 2009 at 12:45 PM ^

I have no background in the field, so I'll take your word for it. But I must say, he is constantly negative on everything. Even when I read the OT thread on XBox 360s, there he was, somehow bitching about Rich Rodriguez. When a guy can turn XBox 360s into something negative, I feel like he's being purposefully inflammatory. Like I said, I looked at his posts, and he's unwaveringly negative about everything. You would think he would have something good to say about SOMETHING... sometime... at some point. Irritating? Definitely. Bannable? I guess maybe not.

Joined: 01/31/2009

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Engin77

November 5th, 2009 at 12:58 PM ^

but slamming RR on the Xbox360 thread was trolling.
On his good days, Belch's posts are funny and well-crafted. Today, I'm wishing he was back on his meds; it can't be easy living in Nebraska, facing that long winter.
Everyone reacts to losing in their own way, I feel bad for Belch, and wish him a speedy recovery.

Joined: 07/02/2008

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emmekel

November 5th, 2009 at 12:46 PM ^

been praying to the ban-hammer god all week for my actions this past Saturday and he decided to reinstate me to the blog today. Joy to the world, the ban-hammer god is come! Let emmekel join in negbangs again!!!!!

Joined: 07/01/2008

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bluesmash

November 5th, 2009 at 12:49 PM ^

All i can say is JUST WIN BABY thats all it takes to shut guys like this up.Let him and the mike valentes of the world run their mouth. A Michigan resurgence is inevitable and the thing these angry bitter little men dont like to think about is once back on top Michigan will stay there for another 62 years. MICHIGAN FOOTBALL Where the weak are killed and eaten

Joined: 11/05/2009

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msoccer10

November 5th, 2009 at 12:48 PM ^

Sometimes its nice to have a foil to hate and neg bang. Besides, he keeps coming back and hasn't just deleted his old account and started a new one. I give him/her some respect for persistence.

Joined: 08/29/2008

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Magnus

November 5th, 2009 at 12:55 PM ^

I was under the impression that content (diaries, board posts) wasn't supposed to be created with the sole purpose of bashing individual users. Anyway, I don't find King of Belch offensive. He often picks out idiotic posts and highlights the idiotic nature of said posts.

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03 Blue 07

November 5th, 2009 at 2:04 PM ^

What other forum does the original poster have to start this discussion? It seems like this is the proper outlet. Further, in all seriousness, from a theoretical standpoint, what purpose do points serve besides the two levels for posting different content? Why even have any value below zero if there is no penalty? I'm just asking, in sort of a socratic method way. I am kinda ambivalent about whether he should get the banhammer, although I really cannot stand much of anything he posts, and neg accordingly. It's generally "noise."

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victors2000

November 5th, 2009 at 12:57 PM ^

I understand your sentiments, he is a tad peculiar and appears to lack any positive conviction as to the direction of the program. I'd waiver on the decision though-I think it's the perceived finality of the action-so I'm glad it's not mine to make. I have a cat who is like 300 years old in human years, has gone blind, deaf, and I still feel her quality of life hasn't suffered enough. Poor thing...I have to keep moving her out of the way of my truck before I go to work...but maybe she's doing that on purpose...

Joined: 03/21/2009

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quakk

November 5th, 2009 at 1:13 PM ^

He caught me off-guard with his critical comments on a few of my first posts. But I've since come to appreciate his unique brand of 'objectivity.' Now I often lol at his posts. I'll also agree that personal attacks on a public forum are bad form. You may not agree with what he says or how he says it, but he doesn't strike me as an idiot.

Joined: 11/22/2008

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A tree

November 5th, 2009 at 2:15 PM ^

Add to that his hilarious f-you attitude. A classic post from him: "(Rick Leach) Has a ton of credibility with the Retired Left Handed Quarterbacks Association of America (Newfoundland Chapter)." Lighten up OP.

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The King of Belch

November 5th, 2009 at 1:08 PM ^

Is for a definition of "Troll"--I think that's one of those terms that people toss out without knowing what it means--and in the end it means more of "I disagree with him all the time" than anything else.

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ggoodness56

November 5th, 2009 at 1:11 PM ^

troll 1 (trl) v. trolled, troll·ing, trolls v.tr. 1. a. To fish for by trailing a baited line from behind a slowly moving boat. b. To fish in by trailing a baited line: troll the lake for bass. c. To trail (a baited line) in fishing. 2. Slang To patrol (an area) in search for someone or something: "[Criminals] troll bus stations for young runaways" (Pete Axthelm). 3. Music a. To sing in succession the parts of (a round, for example). b. To sing heartily: troll a carol. 4. To roll or revolve. v.intr. 1. To fish by trailing a line, as from a moving boat. 2. a. To wander about; ramble. b. Slang To patrol an area in search for someone or something. 3. Music To sing heartily or gaily. 4. To roll or spin around. n. 1. a. The act of trolling for fish. b. A lure, such as a spoon or spinner, that is used for trolling. 2. Music A vocal composition in successive parts; a round.

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Undefeated dre…

November 5th, 2009 at 1:13 PM ^

I'd define a troll as someone whose posts are much more frequent than they are useful. A malicious troll is someone who wants to derail conversations, but that's not you. But constantly posting snark does make you a little wee bit o' troll, in my book. Other possible identifiers: A) Do you live under a bridge? B) Cut off your pinky finger on your left hand. If it grows back, you might be a troll.

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msoccer10

November 5th, 2009 at 1:29 PM ^

The obvious analogy is that a troll is fishing or "trolling" for responses among a group to which he has no particular allegiance to, like a fisherman where a bite is anger. I think King of Belch actually has some allegiance to U of M and hence isn't a troll, but rather just a (usually) witty ass.

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msoccer10

November 5th, 2009 at 1:35 PM ^

All the crap about MSU is wrong. Yes, we lost to them but it was in overtime at their place for our first road game. No one is saying they have a better program than us anymore. They are less likely to go to a bowl game than we are. And as far as the next two classes needing to be all time amazing, I don't agree with that. We could use a great defensive recruiting class but I think our offense will be just fine in the next two years with our current freshman and sophomores becoming juniors and seniors.

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The King of Belch

November 5th, 2009 at 1:45 PM ^

But atthe time MSU was the media darling--that can't be denied. Dantonio's collapse this season has been IMO the best thing that has happened to UM so far (except Notre Dame). The Sparties' true Sparty Noooooo moment has come at a time when UM is down--and therefore they have blown it yet again! But I DO disagree about the recruiting classes. For one, the attrition is STILL something people point out ad nauseum. If affects the team this year, it will affect the team next year--and we hope there will be no more, don't we? And fella--there are still a lot of IFs with this class--from the actual recruits to the possibilities. UM closes strong (as I point out repeatedly that RR has shown he can)--and things look better--provided all of them pan out positively. We still lack depth and talent, don't we? And losing Graham, Brown, and quite possibly Warren means BIG holes to fill on defense. Then, we still have the depth problem even if those holes are filled. I don't consider myself negative toward UM--I love 'em! BUT I DO see myself as losing faith in the Rodriguez experiment quickly and find all the justifying and ranting against those who question him to be just as over the top and tiring as those who support him find against the so called anit-Rodriguez guys. And WE have more evidence to back our claims! When Rodriguez Supporters cross over to WHEN, as in NOW, from the Big Lake of IF--I'll be happy as hell to admit I was wrong and the FIRST to admit I was wrong.

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msoccer10

November 5th, 2009 at 1:58 PM ^

you prove you are no troll. I may disagree with you, but you shouldn't be banned. I am not a believe in the coach blindly type of fella. After PSU I thought that maybe Rodriguez isn't going to work out and after Illinois that he has to take a good amount of the blame for what's happening. I still think the chances he succeeds are greater than 50/50 but I am worried.

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bouje

November 5th, 2009 at 2:06 PM ^

Is that you imply that a different coach would be having better success? You point out our problems with depth and do you magically think that those would go away if some other coach came here? I'm just trying to understand your logic as to how firing a coach and starting all over is a viable strategy because IMO it's not, it will just perpetuate the problem.

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