OT - **Rumor** Pistons trading for Paul George
It is only a rumor at this point, but the deal that is being rumored is the Pistons would trade Stanley Johnson, KCP, Tobias Harris, 1st round pick 2017, 2nd round pick 2018, and 1st round pick for 2019. In return, the Pistons would get Paul George and Monta Ellis.
Here is the link:
http://detroitsportsnation.com/detroit-nba/cpoposki/rumor-is-paul-georg…
December 9th, 2016 at 1:49 PM ^
Arent we still in re-building mode? This seems like a desperation move and trading away the future for an aging star, not even a superstar. No thank you, I love Harris and we have him locked up. KCP I can see because its a contract year but trading Stanley Johnson, while he hasnt shown much yet, seems foolish. Harris and/or Johnson could be stars in their own right. All we need is some legit shooting and we might be able to move up in a draft.
Who would play PF? Luer is soft and Ellison is young. AND they want a first round pick? HELL NO!
December 9th, 2016 at 1:53 PM ^
Paul George is 26. He's not really "aging" quite yet.
December 9th, 2016 at 1:57 PM ^
My bad, that would make it sting a little less, I thought he was like, 30...Still though, better extend his contract if we are trading away Harris and KCP.
So who would play PF? Luer is not starter material....
December 9th, 2016 at 2:00 PM ^
I honestly think this rumor will never actually occur but who knows. Can we get Cliff Robinson back in the D?
December 9th, 2016 at 2:04 PM ^
I loved him...but really, who would play PF?
December 9th, 2016 at 2:53 PM ^
similar to how it is now, where the SF and PF are basically the same build and style of player. Right now, who's the PF between Morris and Harris?
December 9th, 2016 at 2:30 PM ^
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December 9th, 2016 at 4:08 PM ^
Would do the deal in a second if you feel this makes the team good enough that their picks would be in the 20"s+ in the draft.
Draft picks aren't worth as much in the NBA because once your past the lottery it is a crap shoot. Hell once you move past the top 6-7 picks it is.
December 9th, 2016 at 1:52 PM ^
Nothing on hoopsrumors about this. I think OP got clickbaited.
December 9th, 2016 at 1:53 PM ^
GOD...knock on wood...
December 9th, 2016 at 1:53 PM ^
I'd like to know why his scoring dropped from being a consistent 18-20PPG scorer to a 13PPG scorer. He's also on the wrong side of 30.
I could like this trade though if we receive a draft pick in return. While people may think NBA drafts are a crapshoot after the first few picks, it's still the cheapest way to add depth to your roster.
December 9th, 2016 at 2:30 PM ^
Because he only shoots 10 times a game now instead of the 18 he used to.
December 9th, 2016 at 1:53 PM ^
are we gonna try to make big 10 match $10k fine to chadtough before donating the $28,500, or not?
December 9th, 2016 at 2:14 PM ^
Are you going to post this in every thread?
December 9th, 2016 at 1:54 PM ^
Need to be looked at differently with the way this team has been drafting.
Since 2010- Greg Monroe, Brandon Knight, Drummond, KCP, Stanley, Ellenson. Those have been the 1st round picks. Unless you are a bottom franchise, you can't overvalue those when you have the opportunity to land a near superstar like Paul George. Other than Drummond and KCP (to some extent, he's okay), the 1st round picks are either gone or they suck.
December 9th, 2016 at 1:56 PM ^
Watching Brandon Knight's most embarrassing/unlucky moments in the NBA is a true pleasure.
December 9th, 2016 at 1:59 PM ^
With the DeAndre Jordan dunk. I'm glad he got up there and tried to block it. There's such a diva mentality about always looking your best in the NBA. I like the fact he challenged it.
December 9th, 2016 at 2:02 PM ^
I know what you mean, but he got shit on so good.
December 9th, 2016 at 1:58 PM ^
Never sell 3 years down the road in a league where a superstar is necessary and especially not for someone who had a major injury in the recent past. Too pricy in my opinion.
December 9th, 2016 at 2:12 PM ^
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December 9th, 2016 at 3:40 PM ^
a concern. Paul George played 81 games last season. Toughness/durability has never been an issue for him, outside of that one fluke incident. Since his rookie year, the most games he's missed, outside of the season after he broke his leg, was 3.
December 9th, 2016 at 1:59 PM ^
Gotta try something to catch up to the real superteams, or we'll waste Drummond on a bunch of 42-40 seasons. If fail, then just reboot again.
At least I have heard of Paul George. Maybe that's all Gores is thinking too.
December 9th, 2016 at 2:08 PM ^
This deal makes sense for both sides. The Pistons get another star to pair with Drummond, and the Pacers get a defensive anchor and another guy that can score to put with Myles Turner (who they obviously want to build around going forward).
December 9th, 2016 at 2:14 PM ^
December 9th, 2016 at 3:10 PM ^
Paul George was the 10th pick in his draft.
December 9th, 2016 at 2:16 PM ^
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December 9th, 2016 at 2:38 PM ^
I don't actuallty hate this. Feels like giving up a lot, but none of the guys are anything more than good role players IMO. Picks, well, gotta pay something, and better a top 10 player in the hand than the pig in a poke the draft has been for us.
December 9th, 2016 at 2:40 PM ^
If this an official rumor or an unofficial rumor?
December 9th, 2016 at 6:28 PM ^
It's a silent rumor.
December 9th, 2016 at 2:47 PM ^
Pretty sure it started from this fake site
http://www.hngn.com/articles/220497/20161208/indiana-pacers-rumors-nba-…
unbelievable the way rumors get picked up and passed around, some sites will post anything
December 9th, 2016 at 2:56 PM ^
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December 9th, 2016 at 3:17 PM ^
That doesn't make it legit.
ZERO NBA writers and insiders have mentioned it. Check the link that I posted, the local cbs detroit link and clickondetroit are referencing that, and the author just makes up trade rumors all the time.
Anyone can make shit up and say RUMOR.
These are all from the same author from today alone
December 9th, 2016 at 3:52 PM ^
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December 9th, 2016 at 2:57 PM ^
Take out either Tobias or the draft picks and I'm in.
December 9th, 2016 at 3:17 PM ^
On anything he wants to do - anything.
It seems to this point, his moves have been shrewd and have made the Pistons a semi-contender without breaking the bank.
I do not always recommend giving full benefit of the doubt (looking at you, Al Avila) but at this point, we need to let SVG do this thing.
December 9th, 2016 at 3:30 PM ^
If I'm Detroit, I'm not doing it. Take KCL and Ellis out of it, and then maybe. KCP is a very valuable player. Monta Ellis is very llong in the tooth.
December 9th, 2016 at 3:36 PM ^
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December 9th, 2016 at 4:23 PM ^
to look at NBA trades. This is like saying that 3 cars and 3 golf carts for 2 cars isn't a smart trade to make. If the golf carts barely run and you're giving up 3 2007 Toyota Camrys for a Lamborghini and a Honda Accord, then you have more info to make the decision.
December 9th, 2016 at 4:36 PM ^
We aren't selling lemon cars, though. We'd be trading players that hold the 1st, 2nd, and 10th most minutes played on this team. Those players have been productive and relied upon during a season that has so far performed ahead of expectations.
Per36, George puts up 21.4/7.6/3.5, KCP 15.7/3.9/3.3, Harris 18.1/5.4/1.9. I just don't see this as a good consolidation of assets. George is a good two-way player, but we are trading our best defender and losing our best scorer for a 3.3 point upgrade.
Ellis is the junk car of the deal and we'd be forced to rely upon him. He wouldn't just be sitting in the garage, he'd be starting. Hard pass.
December 9th, 2016 at 3:56 PM ^
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December 9th, 2016 at 4:26 PM ^
This would be so, so bad for the Pistons.
Jackson/Smith/Udrih
Ellis/ Hilliard/Gbinije
George/Morris/Bullock*
Leuer/Ellenson
Drummond/Baynes/Marjanovic
We'd take our weakest position and make it weaker, just to make one of our strongest positions a little stronger, at the expense of depth and future prospects.
We get Reggie Jackson back, and rather than properly integrating him we instead throw him an undersized SG that can't stretch the floor or play defense, just to get Paul George.
Leuer was doing well in a sixth man role and now he's being thrust into the starting lineup. He only played 19mpg last year, 13 the two years prior, we could be ruining a good thing by expanding his role this much.
I'm not sure I'd do it if all the picks were retained, even.