OT: ESPN States 11 of 12 Patriots Footballs Found Underinflated
Rosenberg is still deserving of his fisking because Rosenberg. Interesting to see how this plays out.
Link: http://espn.go.com/boston/story/_/id/12202450/nfl-says-new-england-patriots-had-inflated-footballs-afc-championship-game?ex_cid=sportscenterTW
January 21st, 2015 at 12:30 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 12:34 AM ^
Each team has control of the balls they use on offense - they are kept on their sidelines. There is absolutely an opportunity for a team to tamper with the balls used by their offense.
This is not that fucking complicated. I can only imagine people don't want to understand how this works. Because otherwise, damn, some people are fucking thick.
January 21st, 2015 at 12:37 AM ^
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January 21st, 2015 at 1:00 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 1:06 AM ^
the explanations are laughable. It was the weather! Yeah, right.
Belichick is the motherfucking Richard Nixon of NFL Cheaters.
Guy wins in a landslide, still can't stop himself from cheating.
January 21st, 2015 at 4:05 AM ^
No its not all ESPN. Its 11 of 12 balls. That doesn't just randomly happen. This is on NE. Things like this can't just keep happening. Its a pattern and no one outside of NE thing otherwise.
You don't see people accusing ths SF Giants or the LA Kings or the Spurs of doing things like this.
January 21st, 2015 at 6:37 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 6:49 AM ^
The inspection consists of actually weighing the ball. If it was easy to tell the ball was underinflated just from tossing it around and squeezing it, then they wouldn't need to weigh the ball, would they?
January 21st, 2015 at 9:13 AM ^
How much does air weigh???
January 21st, 2015 at 9:46 AM ^
The molar mass of air is ~29g/mol. That should get you started...
January 21st, 2015 at 11:26 AM ^
because of conflicting information. Some reports say that the balls provided by the home team (12 game balls plus 12 back ups) are used first. Then if those aren't good, they go to the visitors balls and that the refs have to report every time they use one of the visitors balls. So, who is right? The people who yell the loudest?
January 21st, 2015 at 1:15 PM ^
the officials hand over 12 inspected balls to each team 2 hours plus before the game.
Each team uses one of their twelve balls when they are on offense.
The balls are under the respective teams' control between the moment the officials hand off the set of 12 and the moment they enter the game.
There is no conflicting information here, only correct information.
This is the correct information.
January 21st, 2015 at 12:34 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 12:42 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 1:06 AM ^
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January 21st, 2015 at 5:00 AM ^
You actually think that 11 of 12 accidently got deflated. Do you realize the odds of that? Because everyone outside of NE fans does.
January 21st, 2015 at 6:50 AM ^
Funny, then, if cold weather causes this, how you never see this happen in Buffalo or Cleveland or Chicago.
January 21st, 2015 at 11:29 AM ^
Do they check the pressure of all the balls after all the games? Maybe they should. Maybe it's happening and we don't know it. Could be an interesting study. I think the refs should be spot checking between quarters.
January 21st, 2015 at 7:31 AM ^
Sooo you can't understand why the Pats would only deflate 11/12 footballs but your atmospheric changes theory only affecting 11/12 footballs makes sense to you? Why not all 12? And were Indy's balls immune to your theory?
January 21st, 2015 at 8:06 AM ^
I'm not claiming it WASNT done on purpose, but I don't see how they got away with deflating 11 balls on the sideline without anyone seeing them. It's also suspicious that the "change" in balls according to various sources happened after the Brady INT and the NE ball was swapped out on their first possession of the 2nd half. At that point, the patriots only led by 10. Isn't it curious that from THAT point on the Patriots dominated 28-0? I think people are making this into a bigger issue because they hate the Patriots.
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January 21st, 2015 at 8:37 AM ^
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January 21st, 2015 at 8:21 AM ^
A mis-calibrated air pressure gauge could would explain a consistently low pressure. They're just $10-15 POS devices from China and it'd be pretty hard to find any two of them that would give the same reading.
Nothing necessarily sinister - except for the complete lack of SPC applied to a classic QC problem.
January 21st, 2015 at 1:42 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 1:51 AM ^
Umm... Why don't they just deflate the Colt's footballs too? If it's cold and rainy, make it the same for both teams. You could say the inverse with the Pats just not messing with the footballs in the first place but its obvious it helps the offenses feel more comfortable during shitty elements.
Or was that too easy?
January 21st, 2015 at 2:02 AM ^
Anyone else have deflated balls from time to time? Really makes it hard to play.
January 21st, 2015 at 2:13 AM ^
the Colts and their balls
the Patriots and their balls
January 21st, 2015 at 2:25 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 10:52 AM ^
There is a different set of balls used for kicking.
January 21st, 2015 at 3:16 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 5:03 AM ^
That is one of the dumbest comments I have ever read.
When everyone but one team thinks this is a big deal it is very obvious that it is.
Only a complete Patriots homer would suggest otherwise.
The Patriots argument is that it was a coincidence and that it didn't help anyway. The argument of the guilty that no one including the NFL is buying.
January 21st, 2015 at 5:41 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 7:14 AM ^
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January 21st, 2015 at 5:31 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 7:12 AM ^
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January 21st, 2015 at 10:17 AM ^
"Spygate" was over a period of 5 years and the league "destroyed" the footage before anyone else could view it. Now you are, allegedly, cheating again. It's a shame that arguably the greatest coach ever is a habitual cheater.
January 21st, 2015 at 12:58 PM ^
was not destroyed before others could view it. In fact it was played on a loop for all reporters to see at the press conference. The entire time.
January 21st, 2015 at 7:36 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 5:41 AM ^
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January 21st, 2015 at 8:03 AM ^
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January 21st, 2015 at 6:12 AM ^
now they can 2 weeks talking about under inflated balls rather than the Super Bowl
January 21st, 2015 at 11:46 AM ^
Should be fun...a true delight.
January 21st, 2015 at 6:15 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 6:30 AM ^
The NFL better get it's act together or start to lose a fan base.
January 21st, 2015 at 7:13 AM ^
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January 21st, 2015 at 7:26 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 7:55 AM ^
This is a non issue to me. If deflating balls gave such a huge advantage, why wouldn't the NFL have the refs check pressure before and after the game? Why would they allow the teams to even have access to the balls? They could easily hire NFL ball boys or equipment managers or whatever. This is an issue because it is the Patriots, period. It's like when Michael Pineda was obviously using pine tar while pitching for the Yankees. Analysts and former players said that many pitchers do it, they just aren't so blatantly obvious about it. But it was the Yankees, so everyone was appalled. I hope New England pounds Seattle with properly inflated balls and puts this to rest.
January 21st, 2015 at 8:46 AM ^
Yes, it's an issue because it's the Patriots. Because the Patriots are known cheaters. And the "wah wah woe is us" stuff for supposed marquee teams doesn't fly. The Saints got hammered too, when they were caught in the bounty scandal, and nobody thinks the Saints are a marquee team. The Tigers caught tons of flak for Kenny Rogers's pine tar, and nobody thinks it was because the Tigers get sooo much attention.