"The University of Illinois is also in turmoil. The university sports an Interim Chancellor, an Interim Athletic Director, and an Interim Football Coach; the game will be played at Soldier Field, making this an Illini Interim Home Game."
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|14 hours 31 min ago||Way to invent a straw man and then take a stab at it||
the point reaches FAR further than whatever did or didn't happen in that game. And if you think you don't read a whole bunch of "show me and then I'll get behind you fully" on this board and on other Michigan boards, you can't read very well.
Harbaugh isn't sensitive, per se, but if there's one thing both his exit from SF and his decision to come here show you (it's blazingly clear in Endzone) it's that JH likes to be appreciated.
|1 day 9 hours ago||Yes, thank you||
I was with Jim on Day One, I am with him at the end of Year One, and I am with him until the end.
Fickle ingrates can take a leap.
Our passion and belief in this thing will make all the difference in how long Jim wants to put into this in Ann Arbor. If you don't think ten years of Harbaugh is going to be ultimately glorious, I've got no use for you.
|1 day 10 hours ago||On further review, FUCK this, I'm going all in||
fuck every last person who can't be stirred to make noise.
Fuck every last person who shushes someone at a game, who asks for someone to sit down. Fuck you.
Fuck every last person who doesn't tell every last one of those pedantic shitbags to shut the fuck up.
Fuck everyone who thinks that just showing up means anything.
Fuck everyone who is too fucking meek to ask his fellow man or fellow woman to pipe the fuck up and especially fuck you to every above it all, ridiculously precious and pretentious douchebag who looks askance at the guy who's trying to get the crowd involved. He doesn't have three heads. He isn't uncouth. He's passionate and without passion the fucking hell with it all.
Because this is about Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh is only interested in passionate people. If you don't have passion Jimmy wants not a fucking thing to do with you. Jimmy wants a fanbase as passionate as he is, a fanbase ready to take a leap of faith with him, a raucous, roiling crowd to ply his mad trade in front of. Jimmy has no interest in performing to a library.
Don't you fucking see that YOU are the difference between Harbaugh fulfilling only the terms of his contract or staying for 15 years and building a dynasty here? Don't you all remember the letter his family wrote to 49ers fans, asking them to show some passion for the team? Don't you remember why he left there? He had no interest in people who weren't all in on Jim Harbaugh.
This is the most miserable fucking stretch I can imagine. I remember when we used to beat those fucks like a drum - sadly, this new stretch now dwarfs that run. The only thing that can right this wrong is Jim staying for a long time and not only beating those assholes, but beating them with soul crippling regularity.
But Harbaugh's going to be looking for the next passion project if he feels he's just performing to a fickle, bloodless lot of gate counters - who knows if he feels burned already by the pitifully pessimistic Michigan fans who have lost faith in year fucking one of this thing? Would you feel loyalty to people who proclaim you the savior one day and overrated the next, at the first sign of adversity? Don't you understand what a guy like a Jim Harbaugh is like? He's got no fucking use for you if you were only with him when the sun was shining. He remembers that shit, and it will matter when he's deciding on his next move.
This is year one. The fact is that between the RR and Hoke years, the gap between us and OSU grew massive. And that can't be fixed in a day. Today sucked, but it's over and it's time to move on.
Jim can make this happen. But it's symbiotic. And if we want him to stick with us, we need to stick with him, and we better bring some blood, and heart, and balls or some ovaries, if those are your chromosomes, to this equation.
Who's got it better than us? No one, if you actually think Jim is going to put down roots here. Show some faith and some passion and those fucking assholes with their clever banner are going to regret their hubris. Because remember this - Ohio State fan has very little in his life besides Ohio State. I honestly don't think their fanbase could handle a Cooper years stretch in the internet era. Let's make their stupid fucking banner a funeral shroud because above all else FUCK THEM. I can't wait until the one thing that animates their miserable shitty lives becomes a source of misery for them.
Jim can make that happen if you would just believe and be a participant, not a passenger.
|1 day 11 hours ago||It's pretty shitty, regardless||
I'm in about as foul a mood as is humanly possible right now.
|1 day 11 hours ago||What this guy just said||
first thing you've said in days that I agree with, but I think you're on the money with this one.
I think it's wishful thinking to think UNC could leapfrog those assholes. I wish it weren't so, but I'm pretty sure that's how it is.
Committee may even hold the academic scandal against UNC.
OSU has so much sway with any sort of committee and would be defending national champs attempting to defend their title - and travels unbelievably well.
Clemson wouldn't end up #1 if they get beat. If MSU beats Iowa, rankings won't look good for keeping OSU out. I also just looked at UNC's schedule and results. It's not good.
|1 day 11 hours ago||That's pathetic||
seriously, as surely as someone throwing ice balls at the refs should have season tickets revoked, those people should be ID'd and get two choices: shut the FUCK up and recognize you've chosen to attend a football game (and that you're occupying a seat in a place where fans actually can be heard from the field) or get your seats exchanged with someone in the far reaches of the stadium. Go be quiet where no one can hear you.
You didn't buy seats to the Philharmonic, ffs!
I am quite certain we can still have a lucrative program and insist on having better fans ringing the field.
Michigan "fans" who actively discourage their fellow fans from expressing passion for the team are fucking horrible.
|1 day 12 hours ago||I'm sorry, it's just not getting it done for me||
after this horse shit day.
|1 day 12 hours ago||You seriously think UNC would get in over OSU||
the defending national champions with one loss by three points to a top 5 team?
I think you're dreaming.
|1 day 12 hours ago||Participation trophies all around||
|1 day 12 hours ago||Root for Clemson and Bama||
they win and OSU is out.
|1 day 12 hours ago||Kelly mismanaged that clock||
no need to call that timeout with 30 seconds left - Shaw might have been smart enough to call timeout for Stanford there, but you should have forced him to do that.
30 seconds was plenty of time to call what you wanted to call, or let ten more seconds run off the clock before calling timeout.
Would have had enough timeouts to run what you needed to run.
I thought Kelly left too much time watching it live.
|1 day 13 hours ago||There's a lot of room to not be OSU fans but still create||
an intimidating, passionate environment.
Being physically threatening or abusive (spitting, etc.) is an obvious place to draw the line. People who do that are sub-human.
|1 day 13 hours ago||Yes, what about a team that couldn't handle tempo||
or a stout running attack against Indiana made you think they were not going to struggle today against Ezekial Elliot and an OSU staff that was going to school on the IU tape?
We just weren't good enough all over the field and were particularly weak in a few crucial matchups.
|1 day 13 hours ago||I think you misread something in his post||
I also think there's nothing wrong with encouraging people to support the team, which doesn't have to involve getting in anyone's face. However, if someone thinks I'm too loud at a sporting event, that person may not understand how the whole attending a sporting event thing works.
|1 day 14 hours ago||Well isn't it sad we can't show we're made of sterner stuff?||
Your point is well drawn, but we all have stories of being shushed or tut tutted at or told to sit down. That stuff *does* seem to be an outlier vs. other fanbases.
And honestly, if I were a coach or a recruit, it's the sort of thing that would make me think twice about joining the program. Fortunately, there's a lot of other stuff to recommend Ann Arbor, but I would think this sort of thing breaks the heart of every player and every former player out there.
|1 day 14 hours ago||Whut?||
What about his post suggests he's a goon or is looking for anyone to be a goon?
|1 day 14 hours ago||For the record, I don't imagine most of us think this is why we||
So responding to that is kind of deliberately missing the point.
|1 day 14 hours ago||Spending money is not enough - showing up is not enough||
unless you're old and therefore have a perfectly reasonble excuse, anything less than participating in making The Big House an intimidating place to play is not good enough.
What the hell you think they're doing at Spartan Stadium???
|1 day 14 hours ago||Probably 35-13||
I think that was probably the point of no return.
|1 day 14 hours ago||That's fair enough||
it sounded reasonably loud to me on tv in the first half, too.
My complaint is much more far reaching than just this game.
|1 day 14 hours ago||Good post||
it's like some Michigan fans feel like simply showing up accomplishes something. 100,000+ mutes is as intimidating as playing at someone's practice field.
If you're going to sit or stand in silence, you might as well not be there. Way too large a portion of our fanbase are passengers, not participants.
|1 day 15 hours ago||You fucking unbelievably stupid idiot||
I'm referring to the lackey in the booth running to Holly Rowe to figure out how much more they need to run it up.
Is there ANYTHING in this world you can't spectacularly misinterpret? IDIOT.
|1 day 15 hours ago||Fair enough, but the term I had in my head||
was stat monkey (referring to the OSU staffer who was in Rowe's ear) and I would never in a million years call Ezekial Elliot or anyone else a monkey.
In fact, I feel so passionate about never saying anything like that (and the horrible state of the servers around here), that I appear to have posted this 6 or 7 times.
|1 day 15 hours ago||Drives me mad||
I went to an HYP and I'm not too good to get completely red assed and scream my head off for the team.
Doesn't mean I'm better than anyone else, but it sure as shit means I have enormous disdain for anyone who thinks they're too good to make a ruckus at a sporting event.
|1 day 15 hours ago||Difference between that and looking down your nose||
at someone for having the audacity to be passionate about the school they support.
|1 day 15 hours ago||We should have a "Quiet Car" section||
all the people who think they're at a symphony performance can sit together.
|1 day 15 hours ago||I'm definitely wondering if it was different back in the day or||
Is this "I'll only cheer for you if you prove to me it's worth my while" thing recent or was it like this 15-20 years ago? Seems like it was different back then.
I'll say this - I was in the student section for 1997 OSU, and I fucking guarantee we made a difference in that game. OSU couldn't run their last set of downs we were so loud. The fact that they were under the student section for their last series basically guaranteed that the game was over.
|1 day 16 hours ago||If you straight out told a recruit||
"Here at Michigan, we will only cheer for you if you do well..."
Do you think that would help in a recruitment?
I can't believe that there are people arguing that this is acceptable. Can't even believe it.
Apparently, we should sell special "quiet car" seats to our sporting events. Some people have delicate ears.
|1 day 16 hours ago||Funny, when he says||
"I was literally yawning at halftime."
I assume he was literally yawning at half time.
But please, explain how that doesn't make sense.
|1 day 16 hours ago||IT WAS 14-10 AT HALFTIME||
Your team was losing by 4 at halftime of The Freaking Game and you were yawning?!
%$%#$@#!! @$@#@!@!! $#@!!