(OFFICAL per fox sports) ND suspends 3 starters, 1 backup for academic fraud
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=109&f=2594&t=13053689
http://www.uhnd.com/bb/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=6&msgid=2…
http://notredame.247sports.com/Board/87/Contents/Staff-Academic-Issue-R…
http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/notre-dame-football/203702-rumored-viol…
Supposedly, 3 starters, 1 backup
again, rumor, but "Hearing Moore (backup LB), Ishaq (starting DE), Daniels (starting wideout), and Russell (starting CB)... FWIW"
UPDATE
Leading story is a female tutor doing players' homework in exchange for....services. If true, players will likely be expelled. Also potential for vacating 2012 "Return to glory" version 5.0 season.
UPDATE #2
The four alleged players were not seen at ND practice today, which is the first official reporting suggesting some truth the rumors.
http://notredame.247sports.com/Bolt/Players-Missing-From-Fridays-Practi…
UPDATE #3
Yahoo Sports sources: Academic probe underway at Notre Dame involving football players. Story: http://yhoo.it/1oOXKnQ
Now official per fox sports
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/notre-dame-fighting-iri…
August 15th, 2014 at 12:27 PM ^
I can't wait to watch Lou try to justify how this will only be a speed bump on the way to NDs National Championship.
August 15th, 2014 at 12:30 PM ^
That's what I'm waiting for.
August 15th, 2014 at 12:35 PM ^
Its hard to ignore that. Just spectacular!
August 15th, 2014 at 12:36 PM ^
August 15th, 2014 at 12:26 PM ^
"Plagiarise like a champion today"
August 15th, 2014 at 12:31 PM ^
But the three links suggest the same rumor that's just making the rounds; not different sources corroborating something. Bad info getting retweeted/reposted doesn't make the info any more plausible.
Again, we'll see.
August 15th, 2014 at 12:33 PM ^
Huge grain of salt, again unconfirmed...but here is an interesting rumor on Reddit:
Apparently some ND starters were exchanging sex with their female tutor in exchange for her during their homework.
August 15th, 2014 at 12:37 PM ^
Please be true, please be true . . . . .
This combined with the Manti Teo fiasco has to bury the Notre Dame holier than thou bullshit right?
August 15th, 2014 at 12:50 PM ^
There have been recent, more tragic and questionable events than Teo and this, and ND remains holier than thou-er as ever.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:45 PM ^
You're exactly right, I forgot about the ND female who took her life. Much more important and tragic then the Teo story. Sorry about that.
August 15th, 2014 at 12:38 PM ^
Oh my that's ridiculous if true.
August 15th, 2014 at 12:39 PM ^
That would be mildly terrifying
link?
August 15th, 2014 at 1:28 PM ^
Wow! If this is true it's just schadenfruede at it's best. Do y'all remember Kim Dunbar(2.0)?
August 15th, 2014 at 12:42 PM ^
Public opinion is going to hinge on the hotness of the tutor.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:07 PM ^
(as are all things ND lately), but who admits to this and how is this discovered? Maybe if she admitted she wrote papers for players, but how does the other part of the "deal" ever come out? This is sketchy.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:41 PM ^
Seriously, not like there would be witnesses.
My guess is some emails or other communication was found that implicates the parties involved, or at least put enough pressure on one or more to fill in the gaps.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:58 PM ^
I doubt a hott girl is ever going to trade sex to DO their homework...she must have been something....ewww...
August 15th, 2014 at 12:43 PM ^
seemingly a female tutor was writing papers for them in exchange for penising
August 15th, 2014 at 12:45 PM ^
So... they have sex with her and she does their homework?
Wow, she got herself a great deal there.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:01 PM ^
Ohhh, those poor exploited slave athletes.
August 15th, 2014 at 12:58 PM ^
That seems to be the prevailing story at IrishEnvy too. Keep in mind... one troll comment can go viral in a lot of places, so definitely take this with a huge grain of salt.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:10 PM ^
"She must be cute if she is paying them for sex"
August 15th, 2014 at 12:35 PM ^
August 15th, 2014 at 12:43 PM ^
wrote papers for the players.
August 15th, 2014 at 12:59 PM ^
Lennay Kekua is a ghost writer??
August 15th, 2014 at 1:17 PM ^
August 15th, 2014 at 12:41 PM ^
At least they aren't "Tressel-ing" the issue so I do respect them for that.
August 15th, 2014 at 12:44 PM ^
You all act like this was serious, like stretching or something!
I try to avoid comment sections in general, but I had to look through them. I think this is my favorite:
All I have to say, is if it is actually true (which I don't think it is), it's a big nail in the coffin - not from those players perspective (as they are all replaceable) but from a recruiting standpoint and fact that its clear we cannot compete with other schools when students have to spend 9000 more hours studying and in the classroom, while on Saturdays, going against "students" who major in basket-weaving. Kelly was supposed to change this. You're never going to get 5 star kids every year that want to go to ND and deal with this, when they don't have to. I still think it's BS. I'd love to be right.
August 15th, 2014 at 12:45 PM ^
However, kudos for ND for trying to keep the illusion of "student" athelete.
Again, let's not kid ourselves in regards to why most of the revenue sport D1 athletes are at their schools.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:08 PM ^
and says he has the raccoons from "The Great Outdoors" terrorizing his trash cans daily.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:32 PM ^
My folks have a family in their backyard in West Bloomfield, MI.
They are actually cute buggers. The cubs like playing with (and thus, tearing up) the screen doors going from the kitchen to the deck.
August 15th, 2014 at 12:52 PM ^
Holy Golden Jeebus! The Irish have a she devil on campus!
August 15th, 2014 at 12:54 PM ^
Except multiply by 4.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:02 PM ^
If she's hot, I would be willing to have sex with her and she wouldn't have to write a paper unless she really wanted to.
Incidentally there is nothing about this on ESPN which adds credibility to the rumors.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:05 PM ^
Ugly or Stupid?
Possibly neither. Elite athletes are in extremely high demand. Women absolutely throw themselves at them.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:11 PM ^
guys would have sex with her regardless if she was hot and maybe she was ugly if she had to write papers.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:20 PM ^
Possibly.
I guess she could still be a 7 or an 8 but the players don't settle for less than a 9 without extra incentive.
August 15th, 2014 at 2:00 PM ^
it wasn't sex. Maybe the players were just eating a lot of boxed lunches.
Thanks. I'm here all week.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:54 PM ^
Obviously this accepts that there's a grain of truth to the story, but it may not have been a quid pro quo situation. The girl may have enjoyed having sex with the players while at the same time writing papers for them because she wanted to help or saw it as her contribution to Notre Dame Football.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:02 PM ^
August 15th, 2014 at 2:01 PM ^
Nahh. You chose the wrong grandparents.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:17 PM ^
from wikipedia:
"the main one involved the actions of a booster, Kimberly Dunbar, who lavished gifts on football players with money she later pleaded guilty to embezzling." In the second series of events, a football player was accused of trying to sell several complimentary game tickets and of using others as repayment of a loan. The player was also said "to have been romantically involved with a woman (not Dunbar), a part-time tutor at the university, who wrote a term paper for another player for a small fee and provided players with meals, lodging and gifts."
The Dunbar violation began while Lou Holtz was head coach: "According to the NCAA committee report, Dunbar, the woman at the center of the more serious violations, had become romantically involved with several Notre Dame football players from June 1995 to January 1998 and had a child with one, Jarvis Edison." Notre Dame was placed on probation for two years and lost one of its 85 football scholarships each year in what the Times termed "minor" penalties.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre_Dame_Fighting_Irish_football
In this case, "romantically involved" = the aforementioned "penising."
August 15th, 2014 at 2:04 PM ^
is that she was only classified as a booster due to some minor incident and that without the booster classification it was a relatively minor incident.
Note - there are undoubtedly more versions of this, it just happened to be the one that stuck in my memory.
August 15th, 2014 at 12:53 PM ^
I am hearing rather than a news conference, the press release will hastily be handed to one of the reporters 10 minutes before the press conference was to happen by the AD.
BOOM!
August 15th, 2014 at 12:58 PM ^
It doesn't matter because Michigan will beat them regardless of who is playing for ND.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:00 PM ^
Rumors of vacating wins could get us back the all-time win percentage back. Especially if it's from 2012 where they went 12-1, if I remember correctly.