"Coach Mattison told me what the Ravens were about, what he thought," Beyer said. "He definitely encouraged me. I hold his opinion in high regard."
While MSU has taken advantage of the RR debacle, which continues to resonate with the personnel this year, fact remains that MSU is an inferior football program and thus remains Little Brother. Meaning, while UM's been on a four year bender, UM still has a far higher upside than MSU.
MSU can only jump so high (rankings/recruiting), just like you'd expect from a little brother. Sniff a top 5 ranking, beat Wisconsin, win the Big 10 outright this year, and we can talk. Other programs have enjoyed win streaks against us recently, so it's not like MSU has relatively risen. They have just enjoyed the spoils of our four year bender. Good for them.
This loss, and 4 in a row, sting no doubt, but with Brandon, Hoke, Borges, Mattison, and the recruiting headway, in a year or two big brother's gonna get back to holding the ball over little brother's head, where only big brother can reach, and big brother's going to get back to national top 5 relevance, again, where little brother can't reach.
is a state fan. He will ALWAYS be a state fan. He will ALWAYS be my little brother. So NO
When they stop acting like it.
This. A thousand times.
These are the exact words that popped into my head as well.
Mike Hart did not make them little brother, he just observed the way they already act.
"Little Brother" could not be a more appropriate decscription of the Spartoons.
is just as bad as trying to snap someone's neck, punching someone in the face, and hitting people late all day? Please. Get real. You know why they're little brother? They're little brother because we own them. They are our bitches. We own them academically, socially, and athletically. Look up the all time record and then ask who's little brother. That's not a question, that's an order. Look it up. You're just some Sparty homer coming on here to troll. We don't want you or your STD-ridden co-eds.
I know that you like to start rants and stir up controversy, but you do understand the nature of a rivalry, right? Because talking smack about the other fanbases is part of the deal.
And fine, let's stop with the little brother names if they stop with Walmart Wolverines. And how about UM fans and alums just point out the school's superior academic reputation, more illustrious alumni, more iconic campus, etc? Those aren't changing any time soon.
I actually like "Walmart Wolverines". It honors us. It says that we are such a compelling program that people who do not have an automatic connection to the University still want to be part of it.
I live on the East Coast. I see lots of Michigan attire on fans of all stripes. I don't ever see anything about Michigan State. Nothing. Michigan State is not even a regional program. It's a few counties in the State of Michigan.
I agree - living on the east coast and seeing UM gear is nice. The school is definitely a national brand. But it just seems lazy on the fan's part to say "Walmart Wolverines" as if it is clever.
The reason why they are called little brother extends way beyond the football field.
Something most Sparty fans don't seem to comprehend.
Honestly, I've never really understood the little brother thing, b/c who doesn't like a little brother? MSU seems more like a douchey, failing cousin.
I was thinking more like creepy, mentally imbalanced uncle. Yeah, a creepy uncle that got buff because while he was in prison all he did was work out. Now that hs is out, he always wears a mesh tank top to make sure that people can see his muscles. While he thinks that everybody is checking him out for being so buff, they really are just marveling at how creepy he is. Yeah, that guy.
the whole little brother thing is lame imo, a sign of disrespcet imo. I think it should die with "michigan man". Btw is it me, or is everyone in Troy a fucking sparty fan now? or everyone in Michigan is now a lions fan. So sick of bandwagoners. Especially with the lions, ruin for us fans who stuck by them when they were shit.
and Greeks aren't fond of each other. And yeah, little brother is a sign of disrespect. MSU doesn't deserve any respect and won't be getting some anytime soon.
The Lions are a special circumstance. There is no such thing as bandwagoners with the Lions. They had so much support before, and then it slowly dropped off as they became awful. Even when they were bad, they still had a ton of support in Detroit. There is a video of the fans throwing the Fire Millen sign all over ford field to keep it away from the security (WTF NO FIRST AMENDMENT IN FORD FIELD??!!) all while Millen sits up top watching. That's still support. They are good now, so some fans that lost touch came back, and some new ones came too. No big deal.
The First Amendment is not about the right of anyone to say anything at any time. It only protects you against STATE interference with the right to speak. There is no such thing as a "First Amendment" claim in private situations.
Ford Field security is not a state actor, so they can tape your mouth shut, require you to pray to Zeus, or kick you out for wearing a red shirt, and none of what they did will violate the First Amendment. It's like if you cam into my house and said something I didn't like. I can kick you out, and the Constitution has nothing to do with it.
If you lay that Zeus line on a jury, you'll own them.
The thing about the Lions is that the support was there, and then as Millen worked his magic people don't want to drop 70 bucks on a game or a couple Hundred bucks to watch a team that's going nowhere.
Yes there are bandwagoners, but for the most part the Lions fans have just not wasted their money on a losing product, and will now due to our success
It's kind of like when someone has bad acne all over their face. You wouldn't make fun of them about it, but the fact of the matter is you can see it, and they know it's there. You don't have to say anything to them and it's like they already know what you are thinking.
I'm pretty sure that NAILS it. =)
Hell no. Being little brother is so much more than football. The saying didnt start when Hart said it, its nothing new.
We could lose to MSU 100 times in a row and I would still call them Little Brother.
If Dantonio and their fans had not taken it so seriously and just ignored it, we all would have a good laugh when Mike Hart said it four years ago, and by now it would have mostly been forgotten. But when your coach brings attention to it, it is like he is owning the moniker, and from there it took on a life of its own. It wasn't very hard for the fan base to own it because in a way, they have always felt that way. I know enough Sparties and their attitudes speak volumes. They know UM has always been better both academically and athletically (and not just football, but the overall collection of sports at each school). That is the main reason that they have taken on the "little brother" name so perfectly and the best part is that they do not not even realize it.
We have a winner.
Endorse this comment. The whole problem was Dantonio acting like that was the worst thing ever said about his program in the history of the universe, and making everyone in EL dwell on it for the last 4 years. Hoke kicked his ass in recruiting for next year and MSU will go 2-4 the rest of the way just like always, and act like that's a satisfying season. Little brother they shall remain for all eternity. Keep the saying.
Yeah, because calling them little brother is terribly damaging to their school and its reputation, but allowing criminals, degenerates and savages to suit up in their uniform is good for the brand. What a bunch of imbeciles.
I have nothing but contempt for Dantonio, Narduzzi, Gholston, Rush, and the rest of that disgusting crew of thugs but until we can beat them consistently again calling them little brother makes us look ridiculous. We should stick to calling them punks, assholes, criminals, and thugs.
Darius Morris would like you to "get the fuck off my court".
Can we ban this dumbass?
You only get banned for being a dick, a troll, or the guy who refuses to stop posting pictures of boobs.
Being really, really, really, ridiculously wrong, even on a regular basis, is not hammerworthy. If it was, only THE_KNOWLEDGE would be left.
They ARE little brother, and always will be.
Let's mention that the first 3 of those 4 years was the worst 3 years in the 130 YEAR HISTORY OF THE PROGRAM!!!!!!! They have not passed us, we fell beneath them. Big brother sprained his ankle playing ball in the driveway and has been slowed down as a result, little brother didn't just all of a sudden get better.
When big brothers ankle is back to 100% we'll see the family dynamics return to normal.
PS: I'm sorry for the overextended metaphor.
the metaphor was well said. For some reason it has given me peace for the time being. I truly hate Michigan State...
Let's stop calling them little brother. I mean, after today, I wouldn't want Michigan to be considered in the same family as that classless team.
If Mike Hart wants us to call them little brother, then we will call them little brother. I can't wait till he's our head coach and officially changes their name to "Little Brother", just like what Hoke did with "Ohio".
I hate everything involving any mention of MSU right now... the Little Bro meme, the discussion of the meme, the way they play football, Mark D'Antonio, Mark D'Antonio's wry smile, etc, etc, etc... Yes, Michigan needed to play harder and be stronger, but the penalty count and variety demonstrates that the Spartan team is
Fuck them all, and may Russell Wilson, Montee Ball and James White piss on their ashes.
ps... I have really conflicting feelings about Devin Gardner. When he finally gets a chance to take over the reigns, his physical abilities will be a breath of fresh air. Still has a ways to go mentally, but that size will be an enormous benefit down the road. I love Denard, and I will not clamor for him to get benched, but he is all over the place, and I'm pretty sure msu blue-printed how to stop our offense. Urban hit the nail on the head, amidst the bewilderment of putting Devin Gardner on the field: the coaches consider him to be one of their potential playmakers, and I'm pretty happy that he's getting a chance to play more and more.
WIth time and therapy, they may get over the inferiority complex. It isn't so much the football program per se, although the fact that theirs is statistically and historically inferior is part of it, but the mindset of the MSU fanbase. "Little brother" describes it very well in a way.
be little brother ....Most schools are little brother to us..We have been around a lot longer ...And besides,most msu fans are ass holes and hate being called little brother so obviously Im always calling them that,among other things...
Until they win six in a row or eight out of ten they haven't done anything. In the last ten games they still sit at 40%. Yes, they have my attention but it's not for the play on the field as much as it's for the disgusting behavior they display and seem to glorify. Women and children from their fan base even act like hillbilly pigs. Obsessed and possessed with trashy actions and morals.
It's gonna get messy next year in AA (and by messy I do not mean 'full of litter' as in East Lansing).