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It's a good thought (although the Yale Bowl's pretty decrepit), but I doubt Yale would agree to the deal. Big disruption unrelated to the college and it's not like Yale needs the money.
None of the Ivies would ever agree to play us, much less Yale. A) They don't need the money, and B) They steer their programs away from the concept of big-time football. Those schools are indisputable, undeniable examples of programs that put "student" before "athlete."
The Ivy teams are college football in its purest form.
To be clear, the topic was holding the UConn game at the Yale Bowl, but "they don't need the money" still holds.
Those schools are indisputable, undeniable examples of programs that put "student" before "athlete."
You might be surprised to find out just how much the Ivies lower their standards to admit athletes. If you're a talented athlete, you don't have to be anywhere near the academic profile of a typical Ivy student to get admitted.
Seriously, this is an excellent idea. Seems like it would never happen, but here's hoping.
I'd love to have it at the Yale Bowl -- and not only because I live in New Haven. It seats 24,000 more fans than Rentschler, and was named by sporting News as one of the iconic football venues in the country. It also has great access to NYC and Boston (and Hartford, for that matter), and the city here could use the cash infusion the game would bring. (In light of the later two points, both Michigan and the City of New Haven might have an interest in giving some financial support to a Yale Bowl game).
What's more, in 2014, the Bowl will be celebrating its centennial. Why not bring in some major college football to celebrate?
This idea is pretty awesome. Turns out I'm not pro-Meadowlands, just anti-Rentschler.
The Yale Bowl would be awesome. I think that'd be a pretty good compromise: it's larger than Rentschler field and still in the state of Connecticut.
I believe the Yale Bowl was the inspiration for the Big House design.
This is football... There are no guaranteed contracts
why not Giants stadium? Right outside NYC.
Same thing as the Meadowlands.
Yeah, my comment looks pretty stupid now, but I swear it was in there before the update that specified the Meadowlands.
Why sign a home and home with them then?
Welcome to the wonderful world of Bill Martin.
All of our Stadium renovations (football, hockey, basketball) beg to differ
Well then that would make sense. New guy trying to get out of a bad contract.
Dave Brandon: because nothing says class like sneering at the opposition's teeny stadium wherever it is located in football-palookaville and suggesting, openly or not, that UM is far too big and grand and old to play in your back yard.
Michigan is, what, one of the five wealthiest athletic departments in the country. It doesn't really need an extra couple of hundred thousand dollars.
Anyway: I'd rather play at UConn than host some of the non-conference games Brandon is scheduling.
The deal was done by Martin, so Brandon apparently feels no allegience to the fact that we agreed to play in Storrs CT (or wherever their stadium is). I get asking about moving it, I get pushing back a little. But I'm with the "honor the deal" folks. I know it's about the brand and it's about the money, but the "Michigan Brand" more and more just means "money for Michigan". Show some respect for UConn and play at their place. DB, if you don't like the deal, be sure not to make one like it on your watch.
I think they should play it on an aircraft carrier.
We have Akron the week before and a bye the week following this game, which potentially allows us to do something really interesting like play in Wembley Stadium or Estadio Azteca some other cool international stadium.
Screw everyone else. Keep college football where it belongs, in the US.
The last thing I want is for College Football to become some international traveling circus like the NFL is trying to be.
Wembley and the Azteca are small time. Inventing the future demands the biggest stadium in the world.
I once heard that Kim Jong-il scored 22 touchdowns in one game. At least that's what the north koreans tell me.
and kicked all the extra points as well.
Chuck Norris laughs at this folk tale and says the truth of the matter: that Chuck Norris scored 25.
Well, that was only because Kim heroically continued to play after being struck by lightning, but he just wasn't himself after that.
Was this before or after he shot 10 hole in ones on a 9 hole course?
After his 5th hole in one, he took a break and went and played a football game, then returned to make 5 more hole in ones.
Great Leader taught America's coaches everything they know!
I can get behind the Yale Bowl idea. Seems like it has the right sort college atmosphere to promote the pageantry. It also seats 22,000 more than Rentschler field... Which honestly looks smaller than some Texas high school football stadiums, and doesn't exactly ooz fall tradition.
I agree that if it comes down to it, just honor the contract, but if we can tweek it in some way that all parties can agree upon I don't see how that makes us the bad guys.
And the obligatory "Silly Bill Martin, home-and-homes are for traditional football powers!"
I went to UCONN's stadium for a USA v. Czech Republic soccer game in 2010. The stadium was bad and the parking was awful. I drove up from NJ for the game and it took us 3 hours to get from the highway to a parking spot. It was so bad that we decided to just hang out in the stadium for the post game show (got Alexi Lalas' autograph) and to hang out around the team buses after that (got a picture with Clint Dempsey) (I know cool story bro).
Anyway, the stadium is small and not a good place to watch a game, and the gameday staff for parking was horrendous, a lot of the parking was in a neighboring Cabela's parking lot and the rest was on a big field that had one single lane running through it that they would let cars on. My advice is get there ridiculously early (7 hours before kickoff) tailgate and get a great spot and leave right afterwards, otherwise plan on staying there for 3 hours after the game's over.
Brandon just said he wants one game a year starting next year with notre dame as the likely opponent per Angelis on twitter.
Brandon wants one night game a year at home starting next year. Irish seem likely opponent
I get Brandon's resistance to playing at UConn. He didn't agree to the series, and its not like playing at UConn is playing at USC. If Brandon got the game put in the Meadowlands, I wouldn't complain. I live in Manhattan so it'd be pretty easy for me to see the game.
Still, I think at this point he should just suck it up and let UConn have the home game. They obviously don't want to budge on it, and whether Brandon signed off on it or not, a deal's a deal. This is clearly a big deal to UConn to have this game. Honor the commitment your school has made, and in the future, if you don't want to schedule a home-and-home with a mediocre Big East team, its in your right to not do so.
Besides, that game will, in all likelihood, be a repeat of Michigan at Northwestern this past year. There will be a nice showing from the UConn student section, but a hefty showing from the NYC and Boston UMich alumni will drown out any hostile crowd noise. The student section will be gone by the half, and it will have essentially become a UMich home game on a smaller scale.
It'll be interesting to see what this game does for UConn season ticket sales, if it remains in Hartford. I just checked and UConn season tickets range from $100 to $300 for the season. It wouldn't surprise me if this game got similar prices on the secondary market, given the huge amount of Michigan alumni in a three hour proximity (when was the last time we played a game in the Northeast? Syracuse in 1999? And that's a lot further away than Hartford is from NYC and Boston). I wouldn't be surprised to see Michigan fans just buying season tix and putting all of them except for the Michigan game up on stubhub.
but what does the contract say. If it has a clause -- and I've heard it does -- that gives Michigan the right to pay a sum and not play at UCONN, then Michigan can do so without "breaching the contract". Then the question would be, what would UCONN do -- say fine and agree to play somewhere else or say fine and tell us to take a hike while they schedule ____ . If they choose the latter course, then Michigan can schedule whomever they want -- of course, 12 monhts out the options might be slim and lead to a Delaware State option rather than a school at the MAC or equivalent level (or better).
Beyond that, part of Brandon's job is to look out for Michigan's best interests. I'd argue that playing in Storrs in a subpar stadium that seats 40k is not in our best interests. I'd pay 2 million and whatever Delware State wants to replace 'Storrs' with 'Ann Arbor'. If UConn doesn't want to talk Meadowlands, that is their problem.
I'm not a huge fan of Brandon, but I don't blame him for trying to get this game moved. And if UConn gets a bigger payday out of it, then I don't get how this is a slight to them. Rentschler Field seats, what, 40,000? And they still can't sell it out?
It's their home game so they have the ultimate say over where it gets played. Any plan to move the game would have to be approved by them. If Brandon can can sell UConn's AD on playing the game in front of a larger crowd and guarantee everyone a larger payout, then why shouldn't the game be moved?
I'd bet that UConn's AD would be all for moving the game to the Meadowlands. It would garner exposure for UConn football in the New York market, something it doesn't really get, and would raise the profile of the game. But the state legislature seems to hold veto on moving any games away from Rentschler that were already contracted there as a terms of the bond funding used to build the stadium (which is owned by the state rather than the university).
The real question is not what's in it for UConn to move the game elsewhere, but what's in it for the State of Connecticut?
True. If it's the state's call and not the university's, then yeah, I don't see this happening. We'll just have to suck it up and play in front of a tiny-yet-half-empty stadium on the East Coast.
Well, it certainly won't be half empty for this game. Hartford's 2 hour from New York and 2 from Boston. Plenty of UM alums to fill the stands.
With Hartford 2 hours away from NYC and State College 5 (with tickets likely easy to come by, stubhub currently has tickets under face value for every game at Penn State this year other than OSU), 2013 might be the best year ever for East Coast fans to see the team in person without a flight.
Who wouldn't want their team playing in huge national venues regularly. Especially if he could somehow pull it off where the opponent were a team like Uconn or the like. I guess I just don't understand what it is that has so many UofM fans worked up about with Brandon. From what I can tell he has made some really business savvy decisions.
As a fan, I think it would be fun to see M play at such an "intimate" little stadium. Plus, given the proximity to NY and the host team's small fan-base, I'm guessing the crowd will be M-heavy, a la our games at NW. And, yes, a contract ought to be honored.
But there's nothing wrong with Brandon trying to work out a mutually beneficial alternate venue -- unless UConn is firmly against the idea. And I don't think it is. Otherwise, I doubt Brandon would be openly mulling the idea. That would just be incredibly obnoxious.
They should play the game in Oklahoma...
I was sort of disappointed when UConn was announced as the home-at-home to complete the 2010 schedule. This is why. We're filling up our schedule every year with cream puffs so that we can get as many home games as possible, But then we'll play in UConn's crap stadium?
I seem to recall that the UM-Connecticut game was viewed as a pretty even matchup at the time. UM was coming off two consecutive losing seasons, whereas UConn had destroyed somebody in their bowl game. I realize Michigan won by 20, but it seemed like a pretty good matchup going in.
Also, in the book Death to the BCS, there is a discussion about how Bill Martin tried to get a bigger name opponent for the stadium rededication game but couldn't find anybody, as all the major programs wanted to keep all their non-conference games at home. (I don't know how accurate that is, though; that book was kind of half-ass).
State legislature got into a huge huff when other games got moved, because of the money they put towards renovations. Having the game at the new meadowlands or foxboro would be awesome, but even at Rentschler, I expect Michigan fans to buy a ton of tickets.
Can you think of how embarrassing it would be for UConn to have their biggest home game ever in New Jersey or Massachusetts? I also saw the Yale Bowl suggested above. I think they would rather scrap the football program than play home games at Yale.
When it comes to building programs I think UConn knows what its doing. They've become a top 5 basketball program in the last 20 years and the football program is following a similar trajectory. I have to believe that they want the prestige and excitement that comes with hosting Michigan. Allowing DB to strong arm them into a neutral site would bring them more money, but would be shortsighted considering what their goals are.
Or maybe I'm just hoping they stick to their guns because I have a sweet parking hook up at The Rent!