99.7% of Notre Dame Students Test Covd Negative
Nearly 12,000 tests conducted of pre-matriculation students. 33 were positive. 33. Those 33 cannot arrive on campus until cleared by medical professionals. Schlissel couldn't have coordinated something like this? Maybe Warde could have figured out a plan for 100 kids and worked with the 13 other B1G school's athletic programs? That would have been about one tenth of what these guys have done.
"What's my risk for Covd this Fall, Mr./Mrs. Power 5 athletic director?"
"That's a great question, son. Every school should be able go give you a tangible answer for this. At Notre Dame, we can tell you we conducted 12,000 tests of students returning to campus, and 99.7% were Covd free."
"That's a pretty good fucking answer. Michigan, Big Ten?"
"..."
People will be safer on ND's campus than 99% of places on earth in terms of Covd.
So. How about those ND football players? Better off at home or on ND's campus, do you think?
https://news.nd.edu/news/99-7-of-notre-dame-students-tested-covid-free-before-returning-to-campus/
August 10th, 2020 at 11:18 PM ^
August 11th, 2020 at 12:27 AM ^
45-7. I've decided to take their first touchdown away because of the blatant cheating/stupidity by the refs...
August 11th, 2020 at 9:22 AM ^
God damn, I had forgotten about that. That one, along with the holding call on Higdon who was literally tackled on a zone-read play that Shea pulled on, have got to be the 2 most absolute bat shit insane calls in recent memory.
Edit: found it:
August 11th, 2020 at 11:09 AM ^
I am here for our planetary penalties
August 10th, 2020 at 11:19 PM ^
Oh, yeah. Oooh, ahhh, that’s how it always starts. Then later there’s running and screaming.
August 11th, 2020 at 12:04 AM ^
The Lost World could have been an amazing movie: you had Jeff Goldblum back, Pete Postlethwaite who was always always great, and an engaging Velociraptor/TRex plot. It had the makings of beauty.
But Vince Vaughn's character Nick made it fucking unbearable. A self-righteous ecoterrorist was always a weird choice for one of the good guys, but all of the on-island disaster is directly his doing.
It's been decades since that movie came out, but I still get angry thinking about it.
End rant. +1 Jurassic Park
August 11th, 2020 at 1:58 AM ^
My 10 year old is really into the original Jurassic Park movies and wants to watch the Lost World next. It's funny because Jurassic Park was considered almost a horror movie when it came out and now it is mostly o.k. for little kids.
August 11th, 2020 at 2:39 AM ^
When I was younger than 10, my parents took me to drive-in movies to watch the exorcist and a lot of other R rated horror movies. My younger millennial co-worker won't even let their 10-14 year old children to see any of the new Star Wars movie, its too scary and way too much violence for them from them. They also will not let their kids play football. I think these bubble parents will be the real death knell for college football in the next 10 to 20 years.
August 11th, 2020 at 8:05 AM ^
My neighborhood was scheduled to show Jurassic World on the event lawn last week and one of the mothers complained on the Facebook page that it wasn't appropriate for her "kiddos". Well, lady, just stay home then. The (Jurassic) world doesn't revolve around you, Karen.
August 11th, 2020 at 8:27 AM ^
I discouraged (not forbade) my son from playing football after his second concussion. I laid out the facts for him from concussion research and he made his own decision.
So there's that.
August 11th, 2020 at 12:20 PM ^
Have you all watched Friday Night Tykes on Netflix yet? There is a panel at the end of season 1. Clinton Portia is on the panel, won’t let his kids play Tackle football until high school he said. He himself started in 8th grade.
August 11th, 2020 at 10:31 AM ^
It’s not just bubble parents. I knew a guy who was in the congregation of former Michigan quarterback Bob Timberlake in the Milwaukee area. He was a big, athletic guy and Bob discouraged him from playing football back in the eighties.
(Bob Timberlake was QB in 1964, when Bump Elliot won his only Rose Bowl.)
August 11th, 2020 at 7:56 AM ^
He redeems himself a little at the end at least. He is the one who makes it to the base to radio for help.
August 11th, 2020 at 12:55 PM ^
Not all the on-island disaster. Paleontologist Sarah, who is supposed to be the Smart Hero, contributes mightily. Early in the movie, she admonishes Nick not to smoke, because dinosaurs can smell from five miles away. Then, after getting baby dino blood all over her jacket (and getting the ONE smart hero outside of Malcolm killed in the process), she continues merrily on her way. It is even pointed out to her that she has wet blood on her jacket and she just brushes it off: "nah it's not mine it's from the baby T-Rex and it hasn't dried because humidity."
She knows the rexes will come find their baby wherever it is, she knows they can smell things from miles and miles away, she knows the blood is wet, and instead of hucking the jacket into a canyon somewhere, she wears this flashing neon light that says HEY T-REX WE HAVE YOUR BABY COME GET IT BITCH and brings death and destruction on the whole party. Right into her own tent where she and the stupid kid are sleeping.
It was entirely fitting that the screenwriter inserted himself into the story as a guy who did something stupid and got eaten by a T-Rex as a result.
August 11th, 2020 at 4:22 PM ^
This is absolutely spot on!
August 13th, 2020 at 12:45 PM ^
Ugh, you're right. But who was aiding and abetting that theft and who was strangely qualified as a surgical assistant? Fucking Nick.
Sarah was also the worst.
Poor Eddie.
August 10th, 2020 at 11:19 PM ^
99.7% of them may have tested negative but it's certainly far from impossible that one of those students will go to a South Bend Wal-Mart and get the virus there.
That's the thing about negative tests. It doesn't mean you will be negative even 1 hour from now.
I don't know. I guess it's nice ND did this, but it hardly means their campus will be virus-free.
August 10th, 2020 at 11:26 PM ^
Good point. This would be a great start if all these students entered a bubble and remained there for the course of the school year.
August 11th, 2020 at 8:35 AM ^
We used call going to college as living in a bubble.
I guess it’s different now?
August 10th, 2020 at 11:49 PM ^
Correct. I don't really think this means much. Good to keep those 33 from arriving on campus initially but it's probably not going to matter much in the long term.
There's likely some that were infected but weren't yet shedding enough virus for it to be detectable. They could easily show up on campus contagious.
There's likely some that will get it sometime between taking the test and arriving on campus.
There will be plenty that get it while on campus from people not included in these 12,000 tests.
And then it will spread amongst them. I still think communities as a whole and especially their parents are better off with students on campus. But this isn't going to stop spread from happening on campus.
August 11th, 2020 at 12:32 AM ^
Um, OP, South Bend isn’t a bubble. It’s the opposite of one. At some point, everyone in NYC and Houston was negative for the virus too. Then suddenly everyone wasn’t. All it takes is for one or two outbreaks - frat parties, classrooms, dorms - and suddenly 3 positives become 9 become 27 become 81 become 300 become 900 and so on. Over the summer, there were major outbreaks at several universities while most students were NOT there. Now imagine what happens when there are multiple outbreaks on a campus with 50k students and staff (most of whom are not monitored and controlled the way the football team is) packed into dorms and classrooms during a cold winter. You’re not seeing the big picture, dude. Campuses are Petrie dishes.
August 11th, 2020 at 6:25 AM ^
One year ago, NYC was 100% COVID-free. Zero were positive. Zero.
August 11th, 2020 at 8:07 AM ^
It doesn't even you were negative at the time you took the test.
These tests have false negatives. These tests have viral thresholds.
August 11th, 2020 at 2:06 PM ^
First time I have completely agreed with you in a while.
August 10th, 2020 at 11:27 PM ^
Didn’t check South Bend vs ann Arbor, but Indiana vs Michigan, Indiana has higher infection rate, test positivity and new cases per day.
August 11th, 2020 at 12:02 AM ^
Deaths!!.. its abt Deaths!!! (which I might add continue to decline)
August 11th, 2020 at 12:08 AM ^
Indiana's cases have only recently started to increase. Based on nationwide trends, there is about a two-week delay between when a spike of cases occurs and when a spike in death occurs. Based on that trend, Indiana should expect to show an increase in deaths over the coming weeks.
August 11th, 2020 at 10:28 PM ^
"Spike" in deaths? You mean the 1/500 chance of dying for 70+ not just general population, but those that get covid? Or how about the 1/1000000 for under 24? Go the CDC and check the #'s. Massive spikes occurring. Shelter in place...let the fear take control...cede rational or critical thinking...let big brother do the thinking for you like mindless lemmings.
August 11th, 2020 at 6:30 AM ^
Deaths are only part of the story. And they were declining - for a while. They've ticked up over the course of July; not just numbers - also the rate. In the U.S., it's back to about 1,000 per day.
There are also long term health effects - even among the young with no pre-existing conditions. This virus is emerging as less of a respiratory illness like influenza, from which most people recover without long term consequences, and more like a vascular disease. Those cause serious issues that can years to correct, if they ever do.
August 11th, 2020 at 7:18 AM ^
I'm healthy, not too worried about dying from covid although its possible. I am concerned about long term heart and lung damage, though. So, no, its not only about deaths. I like to exercise and work out; don't want heart or lung damage.
August 11th, 2020 at 11:09 AM ^
I don't think decline means what you think it means...
Early July 7 day rolling average deaths = low 500's
Early August 7 day rolling average deaths = low 1,000's
More important than your misinformation is the fact that it is not only about deaths, there are lots of indication that even without symptoms this could have long term negative health consequences.
August 11th, 2020 at 11:35 AM ^
You should really stop believing everything (or anything for that matter) that the president says.
Psst; he lies.
August 10th, 2020 at 11:30 PM ^
A great start and with aggressive, frequent testing a chance to contain outbreaks. But without aggressive testing (including surveillance/“random”), they will squander this start.
August 10th, 2020 at 11:47 PM ^
Negative tests here generally mean less than positive tests. A positive means the person almost certainly has it. But someone in the incubation period (who doesn't yet have symptoms) has a good chance of testing negative.
August 11th, 2020 at 8:31 AM ^
This is bunk. Ohio Gov DeWine tested positive then negative in the same day. Three subsequent tests showed negative. There are many stories of false positive cases, including Matthew Stafford.
There is very little information around covid that is reliable.
August 11th, 2020 at 10:48 AM ^
Plenty of information about covid is reliable. You just have to understand that all tests have a false-positive and false-negative rate and interpret the results with that in mind.
August 11th, 2020 at 10:00 AM ^
But someone in the incubation period (who doesn't yet have symptoms) has a good chance of testing negative.
If the test is administered properly, that shouldn't happen. We have lots of asymptomatic people testing positive.
However, the issue is that a person could test negative and then, an hour later, contract the virus. It tells you only what your status is right then. Which is why you ideally need to test regularly.
August 11th, 2020 at 10:12 AM ^
My understanding is that the virus takes a few days in your body to build up enough to show up as positive on a test. So a negative test doesn't even necessarily mean you're not sick right then even.
August 11th, 2020 at 11:54 AM ^
Being asymptomatic is very different from being during the incubation period, I maybe should have specified that more clearly. When someone first picks up COVID-19, it usually take several days before there is enough of a reaction to be picked up by a test. So I may have picked up COVID three days ago, but test negative. In a few days more, I may or may not develop symptoms, but I will be more likely to get a positive test (although there are still a fair number of false negatives with asymptomatic people).
Chicago, which I live near, has a 14-day self-quarantine if you're traveling from a state with higher rates of COVID. The above is exactly the reason why a negative test doesn't excuse you from the quarantine--you may have already picked it up during your travel, but won't yet test positive. (I have no idea what percentage of people actually do self-quarantine, but that's a different matter.)
August 10th, 2020 at 11:50 PM ^
Even the Golden Dome won't save those kids!
August 11th, 2020 at 12:01 AM ^
oh Vlady, you forget abt Touchdown Jesus !!
August 11th, 2020 at 2:43 AM ^
No he did not! Remember he's an atheist. In the 80s and 90s, he was a communist in the KGB. He may fake to be Russian Orthodox.
August 11th, 2020 at 2:11 AM ^
Maybe the clergy will?
August 10th, 2020 at 11:56 PM ^
Statistics in the hands of those with a closed mind are dangerous things.
August 11th, 2020 at 12:01 AM ^
Oh no you did it, trying to make sense, be logical here!! As I've stated before, an athlete is 33X more likely to be die in a car wreck than from covid19
August 11th, 2020 at 12:12 AM ^
What's their odds of a car wreck vs coming down with myocarditis as a result of Covid-19? Or lung damage? Or other cardiovascular issues in the aftermath of suffering covid illness?
Or how about the odds their parents or grandparents or other family members get sickened by covid and die?
August 11th, 2020 at 1:50 AM ^
and college students die from alcohol and substance abuse... life is a risk and to think we cannot resume sports, schools, life as we knew it prior to the covid is ridiculous, immature, emotional and illogical
Cannot wait until the SEC and other schools willing to play safely announce a "season of the willing" and we move forward to normalcy
August 11th, 2020 at 2:12 AM ^
Why do these people exist, and how does society get rid of them?
August 11th, 2020 at 3:32 AM ^
My experience is that most of them change their mind when they catch it or when a family member catches it.
August 11th, 2020 at 6:30 AM ^
If you think that is true, you don’t understand the nature of the objections that people have to the train of thought regularly on display on this blog. I don’t want to lose anybody close to me, that is for sure, but it would not change what I feel about the agenda many are pushing about Covid. It would not be anybody’s “fault,” it would not result in me thinking schools should close and society should shudder its institutions. It would be incredibly hard, but it wouldn’t be anybody else’s business nor would I make it so.
For reasons I do not understand, a lot of people are constructing a narrative from Covid that will result in the “Covid life” being permanent. Suddenly it is not mortality rate, but “lifelong” damage that nobody in the world can prove. A negative test becomes worthless because it is possible you still have it. A vaccine won’t end it because people won’t take it or it won’t be effective. Then they go to anecdotal stuff to pull at the heartstrings.
These people then blame other people for the spread of the virus with shit like masks, etc, when it becomes painfully clear that, whatever their motivations, maintaining the current status quo is really their objective. They don’t want you to wear a mask, they want to be able to turn themselves red in the face because you are not wearing one, or because somebody may not have worn one that one time.
It seems that many of them could have been lacking purpose or meaning before Covid and this gives them a cause to be a part of. There is also a very strong faction of socialist/communist thought in our culture right now. Such ideologies promote absolute control over thought and action. I think there is a pretty strong contingent of those folks on here as well. I suspect another variety is just a standard internet troll, they realize what they are promoting is destroying the country, they either don’t care or that is what they want.
The society they envision is a scary one, that is for sure. However, it does appear that many people are now starting to understand this and are speaking out. The college players and coaches who spoke out yesterday was a big step and took some fortitude. People with platforms like that who are seeing opportunities being taken away from them unjustly need to start speaking out. That is a huge part of a path forward.