This Week’s Obsession: Most Snakebit Player in Recent Memory Comment Count

Seth

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The Question:

What it says in the title duh. Note: other than Drake Johnson, who was obviously the inspiration for this.

The Responses:

Ace: Two years ago, it was hard to imagine Caris LeVert would make a list like this. After forcing John Beilein to burn his redshirt and contributing to the 2012-13 title game squad, he played an effective second banana to Nik Stauskas on a 2013-14 team that nearly made it back to the Final Four and set the (since surpassed) KenPom standard for offensive efficiency. The blueprint was there for LeVert to step into Stauskas’ role as a junior, play at or near an All-American level, lead a deep tourney run, and then face a difficult decision about whether to turn pro early.

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Lucy will let him get back on the court next time, Charlie Brown. [Bryan Fuller]

Instead, Michigan struggled out of the gate in 2014-15, suffering a few humiliating defeats as the team failed to gel around LeVert, who struggled to maintain his sophomore-year efficiency. As Michigan survived a last-second, game-tying attempt by Northwestern at Crisler in mid-January, LeVert went down clutching his foot while the rest of the team celebrated. On a seemingly innocuous play, he’d suffered a season-ending injury; without him, Michigan missed the postseason, and LeVert returned to try it again his senior year.

LeVert looked fantastic, putting up All-American-level numbers as the team’s centerpiece, and Michigan made it through non-conference play with a quality win over Texas and no bad losses. LeVert was poised to lead his team to a decent NCAA seed while cementing his standing as a first-round NBA prospect. Then, in the waning moments of the conference opener at Illinois, it happened again: LeVert stepped on a defender’s foot, rolled his ankle, and came up limping.

[Continue at THE JUMP even though you don’t want to, because you know you should, even if it’s painful. If you make it to the end there are 24 minutes of Denard highlights]

LeVert’s return seemed to be right around the corner for weeks, but when he finally stepped on the court again six weeks later against Purdue, something was clearly wrong. He limped through 11 ineffective first-half minutes, sat out the second half of a Michigan upset, and never played again for the Wolverines. Even though Michigan made the tournament, LeVert’s absence left a glaring hole that Zak Irvin and Derrick Walton couldn’t fill.

As he sat on the bench, LeVert received wholly unfair criticism from fans—none of whom knew the extent of his injury—for supposedly valuing his draft stock more than his current team, or lacking toughness, or various other BS. His attempt to return to the court set back his recovery, and after offseason surgery, he’s unlikely to be able to audition for NBA teams before June’s draft, where he’s now projected as a fringe first-rounder instead of the lottery prospect he was heading into his junior year.

LeVert may very well have a better NBA career than college career. That’s in part because his game should translate well to the pros; it’s also because his last two seasons in Ann Arbor went distressingly far off course.

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Seth: The gods' conspiracy against Butch's son Troy Woolflolk was so overt that The Shredder caught one of them in the act.

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Tloy spent most of the 2006 recruiting cycle at the end of panicky clauses about future CB depth that started "Michigan only has..." Skinny and relatively late in his growth curve (5’10/176 as a recruit, 6’0/191 when he graduated), he should have been afforded the time to grow into a late career starter. Instead he was forced to burn his redshirt in The Horror thanks to Chris Richards orchestrating the St. Paddy's Day Massacre.

Then Lloyd retired, and Whoolfolk was saddled for the bulk of his career with arguably the worst position coach at Michigan since those were recruited from the English Department. As the secondary crumbled it became obvious that Michigan needed at least three Wilforks to plug all the holes. So of course rather than let him fill one and get better at it, his coaches tossed Tray all over the place in a nonsensical 3-3-5 he was expected to be leading. Meanwhile the local media took his tweets out of context, mangled his name, and tried to get his program dismantled over stretching exercises.

Going into 2010 Woorlfolk was easily the most important player on the defense, and was certainly in the best shape of his life…when he suffered a freak ankle injury. (Revisit the nadir of the RR era if you dare). Not only did that all but cripple his coaches’ hopes of winning enough games to keep their jobs, but after they finished Wroollfork's surgery for a dislocated ankle and tendon damage, they realized the bone was broken, and required a second surgery to fix it! He spent a year in bed, watching all that hard-earned muscle atrophy.

Butch Jr. took it all in stride, working his way back just in time to leave Game 1 on a cart. The question then became where to play him once he was himself again by mid-season. Boundary corner was the best fit, but Woolkorft’s own roommate, J.T. Floyd, went from disaster to unquestionably good in the single greatest one-year turnaround ever. Field corner was fine with star freshman Blake Countess. Free safety found an answer in converted spur Thomas Gordon. So where do you put him? Oh of course: in a car accident.

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Adam: Devin Gardner enrolled…

Excuse me.

AAAARRRGGGHGHHHH!!!!!!!

Devin Gardner enrolled at Michigan in 2010 as a composite top-100 player with the arm and legs to flourish in Rich Rodriguez's offense. He graduated five years later having suffered through three offensive coordinators, two position switches, one medical redshirt, and an assemblage of bodies that we called an "offensive line" in 2013 out of convention.

Gardner passed seven times and rushed seven times as a part of the offense he was recruited for before a back injury ended his season. Enter Brady Hoke and with him the incorrigible Al Borges. Gardner languished on the bench most of 2011 before switching to receiver for the 2012 season, eventually switching back to quarterback after The Very Sad Thing at Nebraska.

He looked excellent through the last five games of 2012 and the first two games of 2013 before a coordinator who thought running your head into a wall 10 times to open up one 30-yard completion was a tremendous strategy and an offensive line that finished 112th in adjusted sack rate (102nd on standard downs and 107th on passing downs) finally caught up to him.

In 2014 Gardner again had to learn a new offense. He was injured most of the season, lost his starting job at the end of September for dubious reasons before winning it back a week later, and generally looked like a shell of his former self, passing for almost two fewer yards per attempt.

All that bad luck and his worst break may not even be something that happened but instead what didn't happen; it's hard to see Gardner not having a resurgent season under Jim Harbaugh's tutelage, let alone what might have happened if Harbaugh was hired in 2011. Poor damn Devin Gardner.

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Brian: Staying with Hoke-era follies, nobody got smacked in the face by fate as badly as ​Blake Countess​ did when Michigan moved to a man-press system in Hoke's last year. Countess was All Big Ten as a crafty zone corner who loved to bait opposing quarterbacks into bad idea throws, but he was never an elite athlete.

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Crafty zone dudes didn’t really fit in grabby athlete era of Big Ten corners. [Fuller]

Michigan decided to get more aggressive on defense at the same instant they moved Roy Manning, a linebacker who coached linebackers (and running back at Cincinnati) to cornerbacks as Hoke shuffled deck chairs on the Titanic. In retrospect the problems with this should have been obvious when early-enrolled freshman Freddy Canteen smoked Countess in that year's spring game, but he was All Big Ten. At the time we got hyped about Canteen; three years later nobody really knows what position Canteen is playing.

There were no illusions left after Notre Dame's Will Fuller was more or less completely uncovered for four quarters in the disaster that was the (to date) final Michigan-Notre Dame game. Michigan was committed to the new scheme, though, and Countess was incapable of playing it against even guys way less scary than Fuller. That's how 400 passing yards ceded to Rutgers happens.

Things got so bad that Countess decided to grad transfer despite seeming like a starting cornerback at last year's spring game. Maybe he was put off by Wayne Lyons coming in; Lyons barely played. Countess started for Auburn, which is mostly relevant for the purposes of this post because of one Leonard Fournette.

Countess was only eligible to play in that game because he tore his ACL covering a punt against Alabama. When the universe uses your extra year of eligibility to put you in front of Leonard Fournette as a 180-pound safety, you know it's out for blood.

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BiSB: We tend to think of snakebitten players as the ones who didn't pan out. But I'd argue that the most snakebitten player in recent Michigan history was one of the most successful and beloved: ​Denard Robinson​. Denard came in as raw athlete that most schools would have stuck at running back or corner, and within a year of working his ass off and earned the starting job. His true sophomore season was a revelation; he scored 32 total touchdowns and averaged 329 total yards per game. He was a Heisman candidate for much of the season. He was the smiling face that was going to lead Michigan out of the brief but uncomfortably deep chasm.

Then, The Process sent spread-father Rich Rodriguez out of town and brought in ProStyleManBall-advocates Brady Hoke and Al Borges. With a monster season on his resume and an available redshirt in his pocket, Denard could have transferred to any of a dozen spread-happy schools and presumably consumed the Earth like the delightful demon-god that he was. But instead, he spent his junior season under center in a nonsensical offense. He chose to be a loyal songbird in a cage.

By the next season, Michigan had kiiiiiiinda figured out how to use Denard, and despite some ugliness against Alabama and Notre Dame, Michigan was 3-0 in the Big Ten, and looked like they were in good shape to win the Leaderlegend Division. And then…

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Somewhere in the depths of my Saved Drafts folder there is an unfinished Denard requiem piece entitled “Moonlight Graham.” Denard saved Michigan’s 2011 season, to our boundless joy and probably his own personal football detriment. He ended his career as a running back on a mediocre offense. He never seemed bitter (though the idea of “Bitter Denard Robinson” doesn’t seem possible), but despite accounting for over 10,700 yards and 91 touchdowns, and countless “holy crap did you see that” moments, the depths of “what if” run as deep with him as with anyone.

Comments

Shop Smart Sho…

April 21st, 2016 at 12:54 PM ^

Gardner seems like the type of athlete that could make the transition to some other sport rather easily.  I wonder if any of the Olympic sports have gotten in touch with him.  I know I'd love to see him take up tennis.  His intelligence and frame could translate really well to a sport like that.

Shop Smart Sho…

April 21st, 2016 at 2:47 PM ^

That is patently untrue.  The average age of the top 100 has been increasing for years.  Gone are the days of teens turning pro and dominating the tour.  

As a former nationally ranked junior player and current professional coach, I'm pretty sure I can recognize the body type and level of athleticism that it takes to be a high level tennis player.  And he definitely has those attributes.  The biggest question would be how hard it would be for him to pick up the strategy and tennis-specific movements.

Yinka Double Dare

April 21st, 2016 at 12:59 PM ^

Denard transferring could have allowed him an assault on NCAA record books. But!: Denard's staying and injury did allow the NFL to get an actual look at him at running back on film/game settings, which I suggest may have gotten him drafted higher than if he'd transferred to another spread option school and only been a QB.

dave989

April 21st, 2016 at 1:05 PM ^

Antonio Bass suffering a career ending injury prior to Michigan going to the spread. I would have loved to see him play QB in Rich Rod's offense.

BursleysFinest

April 21st, 2016 at 2:14 PM ^

Not sure that this is true... One of the stark differences observers point out about Harbaugh practices, is that there is a lot MORE football and practice reps now (apparently Hoke practices had a larger proportion of video/classroom instruction) 

sum1valiant

April 21st, 2016 at 3:19 PM ^

Disagree entirely. Injuries continue to increase in football as full contact practice reps diminish. There are certainly ways to mitigate injuries while practicing- but the less kids hit, the less kids know how to hit.

PopeLando

April 21st, 2016 at 4:16 PM ^

One of the things I despised about Hoke was his absolute willful ignorance of injuries. There are multiple instances where he just didn't want to know. Besides Denard and Shane, I remember that Gardner played with a broken foot because Hoke didn't want to hear about it. And of all the worst quotes surrounding the Morris Fiasco, Hoke said something like, "Shane wanted to be our QB. If he didn't want to be our QB, he could have gone down." That may not be verbatim, but it's close, and the implications are clear.

Yo_Blue

April 21st, 2016 at 1:16 PM ^

My face hurts from smiling through the 21 minutes of Denard highlights. That kid saw the field better than anyone I have ever witnessed. He used his blockers and speed to the utmost. I'm done raving and ready to watch that again.

M-Dog

April 23rd, 2016 at 8:36 AM ^

Plus, he had legitimate success at Michigan.  He set all kinds of records, beat Ohio State, beat MSU, won a BCS bowl game, and absolutely owned Notre Dame.

We all know that it could have been more if fate was kinder, and that may be why reflections upon Denard Robinson are always tinged with some regret, but it's not like he didn't have any succes here.

He will be one of the enduring faces of Michigan long after his NFL days are done.  I hope we always see him around the program like we do Charles and Desmond.

 

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April 21st, 2016 at 1:37 PM ^

Normally when you do one of these posts, I favor one of the answers. But man, those were all snakebit. LeVert, Gardner, Woolfolk, Denard, Countess, Bass, how can I choose? This is a really depressing front page article. Do not like.

1VaBlue1

April 21st, 2016 at 2:12 PM ^

Yes and no...

The divorce with Rich Rod was earned and deserved.  The fact that it separated DRob from the offense he was more perfectly suited to run than any other QB in the history of the world was a sad shame.  What a joy it would have been to see him running Bo's option offense back in the day...

Long live DENARD!!!

Evil Empire

April 21st, 2016 at 1:46 PM ^

with Gardner at QB and Denard at RB from the beginning.  That would have given us terrific diversity, preventing the defense from keying on one guy (for most of the year, QB Denard).

People would have gone absolutely nuts if Hoke/Borges had done so, given Denard's numbers at QB in 2010 and 2011.  But given our production from the running back position that year, it's easy to imagine the combo of Devin-Denard far outgaining the combo of Denard-______. 

Denard's rushing stats for the regular season:
154 carries, 1166 yards, 7.6 avg, 7 TDs.

All non-Denard running backs combined:

237 carries, 940 yards 3.97 avg, 12 TDs.

Space Coyote

April 21st, 2016 at 2:02 PM ^

But included Devin Gardner and Denard Robinson in this post seems awfully lazy compared to "most snakebit players in recent memory."

Denard Robinson started 2.5 seasons at QB for Michigan. His Soph year under Rich Rod he passed for over 2500 yards and ran for over 1700 yards. He was a Heisman candidate. His first season under Hoke, he was still a transformational QB. He ran for over 1100 yards. He passed for over 2000. He was part of a rare combination of two players rushing for over 1000 yards in a season. He was on pace to do much the same in his final season before he got injured. He came back from injury to show he was a viable RB option for the NFL. He still ran for over 1200 yards despite missing the majority of 3 games, and was on pace for over 2300 yards passing before he was injured. Yes, he would have been lucky to stick with Rich Rod. Yes, the injury sucked. But that's not snake bitten compared to others.

Gardner also started for essentially 2.5 years. He threw for nearly 3000 yards as a JR and would have had he played the bowl game. He set passing records at Michigan. He ran for nearly another 500 yards that season. He was forced to play under two OCs that put Cade McNown, Jason Campbell, Ryan Lindley, AJ MaCarron, Jeff Smoker, and Jake Locker in the NFL. It was far from the worst situation possible. It was unlucky he had constant turnover. No, he didn't get coached by Harbaugh. But most snakebitten? Nah.

Troy Wolfoforkfolk, Fitz, Antonio Bass, Caris, McGary, Lester Abram, Pipkins, Drake Johnson, Steven Threet, Chris Bryant all have at least as valid or more valid claims. If we're just going by the evidence presented above, we might as well include Craig Roh, William Campbell, Kevin Koger, Martell Webb, Obi Ezeh, Donovan Warren, Greg Mathews,  and Michael Williams. Honestly, if we're talking in the way we are for Gardner and Denard, then you might as well throw Henne and Hart on there, both guys that had to miss signficant time throughout their careers, much of which came in their SR year, with a loss to App St, only to show what they could have been in the final bowl game. At least one of those two would be a "hot take" if there ever was one.

I dunno, guess I'm taking it a little too seriously on this one. This just kind of feels like a "Let's bash the Hoke era redux" with Caris and Troy thrown in for obvious reasons. Maybe that's because "recent snakebit", but at some point these points get covered ad nauseum and it's tiring. Still can't believe Bass wasn't one of the first mentioned. He's the clearest case there probably is.

Space Coyote

April 21st, 2016 at 2:25 PM ^

Though I'd argue Austin Hatch was snakebit and somehow also lucky before he arrived at Michigan. The WR refugees were able to flee war torn Africa and have had fairly non-snakebitten Michgian careers. Zia Combs would have been an excellent option though, and was a person I forgot about, and would have made for a more interesting piece.

I know, I know, unpopular opinion is unpopular. But "[Player x] was snakebit because Hoke" feels at most like unlucky rather than snakebit. Every good TE on Michigan's roster was snakebit more under Rich Rod and didn't go on to have nearly the career. Obviously, both those QBs were hurt by the transition, but not in the league of others, including those you mentions (particularly Combs). I would argue a guy like Josh Furman or some of the other tweeners/slot ninjas that Rich Rod recruited, including Odoms, were more snakebit.

I like the vast majority of the stuff you write, it just seems like usually there is more thought put into it than on this piece. Zia Combs, for instance, would have been a guy that was truly snakebitten that people don't tend to remember.  I really did forget about Zia Combs. Maize n Brew did a nice write up on him a couple years back that's worth a read on it and would have been much less a redux of what has been said many, many times before:

http://www.maizenbrew.com/2014/4/18/5628622/zia-combs-a-redemption-story

Fishbulb

April 21st, 2016 at 2:33 PM ^

Jerod Ward! Two major knee injuries. Aside from Glen Rice, Ward is the past Michigan player who, in my opinion, would be the perfect fit at the 4 in Beilein's offense.



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