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This is in my opinion the…

This is in my opinion the one thing he does really well. That’s a niche that helps good at. 
 

His broader NFL stuff is really rough. 

Good for JJ, but Benkert……

Good for JJ, but Benkert… ugh. He’s just in over his head and has been multiple times he’s been put in his place by more knowledgeable people. Not saying that’s the case here, just very low down on my list of people I put much faith in. 

Green is the dirtiest player…

Green is the dirtiest player in the history of the NBA. And I say that having watched Bruce Bowen try to injure guys for years. Glad he’s getting treatment especially on a pretty obvious flop.

He used to be very skilled and fit well with what the Warriors wanted to do, but he’s overshadowed all of that with his dirty play  he will forever be remembered for being dirty first and foremost.

 

the Michigan common truth…

the Michigan common truth about Dickinson was that he was a program cancer, etc.

I do not remember this being said a lot, let alone a “common truth” as the OP says.

Yes, people complained about some of his antics and I think everyone realized he was an easy villain for opponents, but he was our villain. But “program cancer” was not something I remember ever seriously being thrown around. This feels like revisionist history.

Glad someone has some sense…

Glad someone has some sense on this. Anyone who has seen or knows how Ross operates knows that doing something very public is NOT his style at all.

Yeah, Gay being the key spy…

Yeah, Gay being the key spy is also important if Purdy scrambles as much as he did against the Lions. He's been a limited participant again this week (he tried to go last week, was expected to play as of Saturday, but his neck tightened on him overnight according to reports). I'd say he's up in the air.

Omenihu loss sucks. Karlaftis and Jones need to be the ones to bring pressure, along with some good Spags blitz packages (assuming they're going to bring safety and nickels a bit more). I assume FAU will get more reps too, but he hasn't done much of anything for being a Round 1 pick.

It's totally fair to call…

It's totally fair to call out that he behaved inappropriately, so I get it. I sort of had forgot about it to be honest when I asked the "what tantrums" question, so I feel kind of dumb since I think that's the obvious answer. I'm sure you saw, but I shared some links below where we apologized for it, said he wasn't being a good role model, etc.

But I get it, KC is winning a lot and that generally gets people criticizing stuff you do, which is what I do do every other team that isn't my team, so I think it just comes with the territory. It's weird being part of the evil empire after chasing it for so long pre-Mahomes. Just amazing how much he has changed the fortunes of KC.

Anzalone took such an awful…

Anzalone took such an awful angle on that scramble it was painful.

Taunt Sneed at your own risk…

Taunt Sneed at your own risk man. Dude brought that on himself.

I don't get people being…

I don't get people being triggered by Taylor Swift being shown. She has zero control over it (she actually mouthed "go away" when the camera was on her the other day), and it's otherwise some other shot they are going to show. It ends up being under 30 seconds in the entire broadcast and people get massive rage over it. I just don't get it. Gronk's stupid (totally "live" and not prerecorded at all) kick of destiny commercials eat up way more of your life. You've probably seen the Geico Caveman/Gecko documentary commercial for more total time in the past week than you did the combined about Swift was on TV for the past 3 weeks).

Noted below, you're both…

Noted below, you're both talking about the same game. Yes, he had a bad reaction that game and has owned it, but that's a massive outlier.

I watch a lot of NFL, and the sidelines stuff he does is pretty tame that happens in just about every game.

He whines for penalties, which yeah, everyone basically does but I think he gets a lot of hate for that since KC is good and he's the face.

Yes, as you both point out…

Yes, as you both point out he had an emotional response against Buffalo on the offsides call.

The mic caught *part* of the conversation for what it's worth, not all of it as Josh Allen noted when Mahomes called him to apologize (link). They know each other pretty well if you've seen them interview - they say they consider each other pretty good friends (they do a lot of the golf stuff together in the offseason). Mahomes has owned that it was a bad reaction (link).

 

This is pretty out of character. He generally handles himself pretty well, and didn't in this instance. But most players have examples like this they can point to where they had a blowup. It happens.

 

Does he do some of the whining for hits/penalties/etc? Yes, as every other QB (among others) does. 

I'm a Chiefs fan, so this…

I'm a Chiefs fan, so this would be a downright amazing year for me to get UM winning a national championship that I got to attend and a Chiefs Super Bowl (though probably not going to attend). Was really hoping for a Lions/Chiefs Super Bowl so I could just be in heaven.

I'm biased, but I don't get the line in this game, a bit surprised by it. If this was about 8 weeks ago I don't think this game would be close and the advanced stats show that while KC was solid, SF was essentially better in almost every area. But SF has not looked nearly as good in the playoffs, while KC has looked a lot better and seemed to be playing their best at the right time. While the opposite is true for SF. That being said, I could see this being a close game because:

  • SF is very good at running the ball, and this is KC's weakness. CMC should have a very good game if Kyle doesn't go pass happy.
  • SF can use motion to get Deebo clean releases. They'll move him around a lot I'm guessing.
  • SF is very good at defending the middle of the field, where KC needs to be able to play to move the ball with Rice/Kelce.
  • KC is good at running the ball and SF run D has been poor in the playoffs. I expect a big Pacheco day assuming Andy doesn't go pass happy (which has definitely been known to happy).

Frankly, I just don't think Purdy is that good. He has some things he does well, but I think he's their weak spot and could see KC exploiting that. In a clean pocket he's okay, but his advanced stats under pressure are not good. He's also I'm pretty convinced the luckiest player in the NFL (banking a pass off a defenders facemask for a 51 yard completion), and maybe that continues and throws passes right to defenders that they drop. So who knows, but I'm hoping that the lucky finally ends.

Again, bias and all, but I took the KC Moneyline at +115 right when it came out.

I think you know who I want to win...

Serious question: what…

Serious question: what tantrums?

Absolutely, the leak was to…

Absolutely, the leak was to show that Warde had given Harbaugh everything he asked for, but he still wanted to jump ship to the NFL.  It’s an obvious response to losing your head coach and not wanting to get heat for not giving up more, now there’s record that this was Harbaugh’s decision, not Warde not doing enough. 

The timing of giving in, and the timing of leaking the contract all stink, and make it pretty obvious it was a PR save-face thing from the AD. Just more of the same.

Bravfuckingo. Almost spit…

Bravfuckingo. Almost spit out my water. Almost.

This. I would love Minter to…

This. I would love Minter to stay, but he’s gone, I will eat a lemon if he stays.

Shaw interviewed with the…

Shaw interviewed with the Titans on Thursday. I think we can definitively shut this down and as any sort of read on Harbaugh.

According to the reports it…

According to the reports it was not an exclusion from for cause firing, it was a contractual requirement that it happen with a  panel. 
 

And reading between the lines it’s likely tied to NCAA rules not other egregious conduct, though of course we haven’t seen the language. I’d be surprised if Harbaugh is trying to do anything more than protect himself from NCAA repercussions. I’m speculating but given his personality I suspect other for cause terms (murder, sexual asssuslt, etc) are not a problem for him, and this is all NCAA driven, so there may be carve outs. 

Can’t imagine that Harbaugh…

Can’t imagine that Harbaugh asked him or that this was anything more than a legitimate hire, even if to satisfy the Rooney Rule 

Teams have a process for this. It’s easy to follow and there’s a pretty strong list of minority candidates that floats around to comply with Rooney Rule. It’s not a secret. Shaw’s name has been on that list for a while.

Shaw had success in California, and satisfies the Rooney Rule. He’s been well thought of in NFL circles for a while. His name has cooled, but it’s still more relevant than some of the other names on the list that get token interviews to satisfy the rule.

There’s 0% chance Harbaugh asked Shaw to interview to satisfy the Rooney Rule. That’s just not how this works.

I'll continue to use the…

I'll continue to use the word conflating until you stop conflating things, as absurd as that might seem to you. Transparency in negotiation between parties may help arrive at a better negotiated settlement in some cases. (In other cases it doesn't, I do not agree with your original statement about hiding something, but that's beside the point.) But Acker's statement said "I am not interested in negotiating through the public or through the press" (my emphasis), nothing here says that he is not interested in being transparent between the parties, it said he doesn't want publicity about it ("through the public or...press"). Adding in a third party to negotiations (the public) is a completely different element.

I'm sure he's well aware of Michigan's FOIA laws and what of his communications could be subject to them, as well as ways to legally circumvent them. 

You suggested he was posturing for the UM alumni votes, which sure, probably he's a politician. I added the context that he's also been a big UM fan for a long time, so I don't think this is schtick. It happens to be aligned with his fandom goals and his political goals.

There’s a difference between…

There’s a difference between transparency in negotiations and publicity in negotiations. You’re conflating them. 


Acker is a big UM fan and was long before he ever got on the Board. So I do believe he wants Harbaugh to stay. But he’s also a politician. He’s coming at it from both sides.

Nate Silver catching strays!…

Nate Silver catching strays!

 

For real, this is nothing like Nate Silver and 538 though. That's all about poll analytics and they were better at doing it originally, or at least the most well known about doing it when their 2012 model performed very well. I don't think that's a fair comparison to someone providing reporting based on sourcing versus a polls model doing well. Anyway, those who ran other models have been given more attention, and also, the models didn't perform as well because they're having trouble measuring sometimes (though some models have partially fixed this). 

Moderators I'd Like to Fix?

Moderators I'd Like to Fix?

I graduated in 2005 so this…

I graduated in mid 2000’s so this song was right in with my college era. I liked it at the time but wasn’t obsessed with it any by any stretch. I don’t think in itself it’s particularly appropriate for Michigan football lyrically now, but I also don’t think that matters.

I have Spartan fans who asked me to explain WHY Mr. Brightside was a thing. How did it end up like this?

I think the reason why is because it’s sort of a lived experience of being a Michigan fan and living through what seemed like never ending BPONE. It’s sort of the thing that once it happens, people make their individual connection to that song and it becomes something and then it happens again and connects other people.

It had been played in the stadium before, but 2017 is really when it picked up steam, mostly due to the rain-drenched loss to MSU: https://x.com/byazuniga/status/917046798384017410?s=61

They played it for all of the 2017 season, and there were a few games before MSU where the (now common) cut off of the song caused it to go out and the crowd to keep singing. There was one completely organic instance where they came back from commercial break and stopped the music and everyone just kept on singing that I think really started it a week or two before MSU. It became a sing-along song at that point. And then you get this emotional loss to MSU, in the rain, and a very emotional song you can sing (shout) to, and it becomes a thing.

Then everyone sees a video of it and wants to participate. Then it becomes an experience of singing along to an emotional song with 100,000+.

The lyrics don’t fit now. I get that. It did more at the time (man, this fucking sucks, we used to be great, we aren’t, but there’s a sort of upbeat things can suck but hey I’m looking on the brightstide message in there). It doesn’t matter. It’s an emotional song. It’s a song you can sing/shout to at the top of your lungs and everyone around you is doing the same thing. In 2017 it fit with the emotional wreckage we all felt about the program and do anyone Millenial-ish that song gave also a giant wave of nostalgia. When I hear the song now I think Michigan football. Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought that would be my connection 2 decades ago. That’s a connection, and that matters. Kids coming into school now still post on social media about how cool it is it to get experience this song in the stadium as students for the first time. They bring their own emotional baggage on things not even football related and you’ve got 100,000 people shouting out this song with you. It’s an experience if you let it soak in. And that builds on itself. 

It doesn’t fit for plenty of reasons. But it also fits perfectly because it’s ours now. 

 

 

Unless they have a Kick Tony…

Unless they have a Kick Tony Petitti in the Nuts booth it’s not a Hospitality tent to me.

I appreciate Moore’s…

I appreciate Moore’s leadership, but I just don’t think our offense flows as smoothly when he’s the head coach. From both today, PSU, and the early season game it’s always felt disjointed. 

This needs more upvotes. If…

This needs more upvotes. If there is evidence releasing now is a horrible play timing-wise. It will get buried and contrasted with UM. You need to give it time and let this story die down.

The long game here is: let the season play out. We’ve taken our hit. Swallow it and win games. Then next year find a good national reporter to launder the story if there is evidence. It will get the focus.
 

If there’s not evidence right now, there is zero reason that we shouldn’t be hiring a PI firm to investigate and find some. There will be some at very program. Fuck it, the Big Ten and NCAA seemed to have no issue with private investigators so this is a new field of warfare. Might as well embrace this and fire the booster money cannon on digging up dirt if this is how it’s going to be. 

This is not true. Don't get…

This is not true. Don't get your legal advice from David Shuster.

My point exactly. Get lost.

My point exactly. Get lost.

People were predicting what…

People were predicting what would happen based on what commonly happens. I expected a ruling on the TRO before the game, and was adamant about that. I'm pretty shocked they didn't rule on it based on what I know, seems like a very outlier response.

I'll eat crow here: I'm…

I'll eat crow here: I'm shocked by this decision, while a TRO is never a slam dunk, UM had a pretty good case in my opinion.

Then again had you understood and responded rationally and respectfully you wouldn't have gotten negged to oblivion yesterday, but instead you were an ass.

Pretty shocked by this…

Pretty shocked by this decision. I though injunction might be harder but TRO case was pretty strong in my opinion.

Judge can always set an…

Judge can always set an earlier date, it's a maximum of 14 days, and there's rules on extending if the date falls on a weekend.

Not negging - you it's your…

Not negging - you it's your opinion, buuuuuuut just me feeling that #1 and the immediacy of this will likely overwhelm #2 enough that they've have an argument they can win, which is really all you need. Put it this way: W&C can have a strong enough argument on #2 to get a TRO is my belief. I agree the injunction is harder though.

JUB is reporting judge is…

JUB is reporting judge is Carol Kunhke. Connors is on the docket as of this moment, however.

Yeah I realized I was just…

Yeah I realized I was just repasting it in my other browser tab to check the link which does no good to check that it worked for someone else.

You should see "Order" and…

You should see "Order" and then saying granting or denying the motion. We want to see an Order granting the motion for the temporary restraining order.

This basically matches with…

This basically matches with my use, so I'm going back to my definition being right.

 

How do you do fellow kids.

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No, I think it's cookies, I…

No, I think it's cookies, I'll update my post again with instructions.

Here's a link if people want…

EDIT: if you want to see the case and refresh repeatedly... instructions:

  1. Go to the Court page: https://www.washtenaw.org/1031/Name-Search
  2. Under Access Click on Visit the ONLINE TRIAL COURT CASES AND CALENDAR WEBSITE link.
  3. A popup appears hit "proceed to site"
  4. Click on "Civil, Family & Probate Case Records"
  5. Type in the CAPTCHA, and for case number type in 23-001419-CB then hit search.
  6. A new page will appear you'll see the case number and under Style "Harbaugh, James..." Click on the case number, which is a link.
  7. No you can hit refresh if you keep that page open.

Or this link might work, but probably not due to catpcha:

23-001419-CB

No, this is just what has…

No, this is just what has happened so far, nothing approving it.

This is the same content…

This is the same content that is on 247 Board (TMI) from someone under another name, FWIW.

Let me to try to help you…

Let me to try to help you out: TRO is sought before a specific deadline occurs, an urgent deadline. It's the "stop this bad thing from happening and couldn't be undone if you don't grant this immediately." It is literally meant to be a short-duration, immediate-need, before an event occurs. It can occur ex parte is meant to be so urgent. 

Whether that event is a football game or some other event doesn't change this. There's a deadline, the literal reason of the TRO's existence is to be before that deadline.

So when all the lawyers on here are telling you how the timing of this works because this is what they do for a living and have actual experience with it - please give it a listen.

You do realize they could…

You do realize they could not grant a TRO right? Which is resolving the request for TRO but Harbaugh isn't on the sidelines.

Certain? No. They could not…

Certain? No. They could not grant the TRO. 

But I think they'll rule on a TRO tonight for sure.

And I do think it's likely they'll at least get the TRO (injunction might be harder).

Yeah, I actually haven't…

Yeah, I actually haven't seen where it was filed. I presumed there'd be a lag on timing in the next few hours, but admittedly not my area of expertise since I don't really touch PACER.

My god man, just take the L.

My god man, just take the L.

I'm a lawyer, I've done…

I'm a lawyer, I've done exactly what I am suggesting will happen. As have plenty of others.

It will happen before the game tomorrow for sure, likely within the next few hours is my guess.