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Brian

9/13/2014 – Michigan 34, Miami (Not That Miami) 10 – 2-1

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Jake Ryan did a good job of not blowing up Hendrix for penalties [Eric Upchurch]

Michigan Stadium was a roomy place on Saturday, somewhat full of cranky people waiting for an opportunity to vent their ire. They held their fire after a Gardner interception; they held their fire when Michigan was tied 10-10 with a team that hadn't won a game since 2012 midway through the second quarter.

This was a bit of a surprise. Hell, the 1997 team(!) got booed at halftime of their game against Iowa when they went into the locker room down 21-7. (This was definitely performance-related, exacerbated by a late Tim Dwight punt return touchdown. The tenor of the boo was WE KNOW YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS LET'S GOOOO and when they came out of the locker room the corresponding cheer was much louder than it usually is. But damn we used to have some expectations.)

In 2014, after seven years of mostly unrelenting failure, on the heels of a humiliating shutout in the Last Notre Dame Game, I was expecting more audible grumbles. Michigan fans held off, possibly too stunned by last week to do anything but meekly absorb events in front of them.

Then Michigan took a delay of game penalty (after a timeout!) and decided to punt from the Miami 37 with a minute left in the half. This was pure coaching malpractice that reminded a grumbly Michigan Stadium of last year's Penn State game. The boos rained down. It was loud. It was grumbly. It was statistically accurate.

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As the game rolled along and Michigan proved themselves about as superior as you'd think they should be, this game receded from the hateful constellation of lower-level matchups that turned into stomach-churning wins or even losses.

When you end up giving up fewer than 200 yards to an opposing offense you've established that they are very bad and you are not. Eventually Michigan's ground game kicked in and put up similar YOU ARE BAD numbers. Erase some pretty random turnovers (deflected pass at the line, redshirt freshman pop-up kickoff fumble) and this is 45-0 or thereabouts.

I know you don't believe turnovers are random, person on the internet who I am anticipating a "LOL" comment from, but even you have to admit that when a throw goes from probably on target to directly in the chest of an opposing player because it glances off a fingertip that's just life giving you the middle finger, and not—oh you just said MAKE PLAYS in seriousness on the radio nevermind this sentence. Players make plays. Etc.

Anyway: in retrospect I am not stressing about this game.

I was in the second quarter, like everyone else, and while I didn't actually boo—I am in the too-shocked-to-do-anything club—I agreed with it. What's more, I deeply appreciated that the people still mad enough to let someone know about it waited for  the perfect moment.

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When Pat Fitzgerald was asked about Northwestern fans being upset in the aftermath of the Wildcats' 0-2 start, he responded thusly.

"No shit."

This is a press conference answer to get behind. It is brief, quotable, and addresses the situation. Fitzgerald is not surprised that fans are upset; he is upset (he called the team "an embarrassment to anyone that ever put on the purple and white"); fans should be too.

When Brady Hoke was asked an open-ended question about his message to the fans, he said this:

As far as the fans that watch from the outside and see some of the similar issues that they saw last season, what would you say to them and how concerning is it as a coaching staff?

"If they’re truly fans they'll believe in these kids and what they've done and the hard work that they've put in. If they’re not, they won't."

To the great misfortune of someone whose words are repeated verbatim on the internet, he would later claim to be misquoted. At least he has been told that knocking the fans who pay his salary and are currently leaning towards "tar and feather" over "put FOR SALE signs on front lawn" is not great, Bob.

But he has succumbed to the post-9/11 Godwin's Law: eventually someone in charge of the troops is going to tell you to support the troops, because he thinks that's the best argument he's got left. You think knocking over tinpot dictators halfway across the world with no real hope of installing anything that won't collapse the minute you leave is a bad idea? Support the troops, buddy. Why don't you support the troops?

So kudos to Michigan Stadium for holding its fire until the guy on the sideline with the timeout blundered his way into a fourth and eleven punt that went into the endzone on the fly. It was 1000% clear who was and was not supported at that moment.

Michigan is at least tolerant of the troops even when they're struggling against Not That Miami. Michigan is pissed off at the guys in charge. No amount of deflection will hide that fact.

Highlights

Awards

brady-hoke-epic-double-point_thumb_31[2]Brady Hoke Epic Double Points Of The Week. #1 is Derrick Green, who was often the recipient of gaping holes but hit them and even made some yards himself.

#2 is Jourdan Lewis, who turned in excellent coverage all day and came up with an excellent interception.

#3 is Brennen Beyer, because it is impossible to really distinguish between the various guys whipping up on Miami's OL but Beyer got a sack.

Honorable mention:

Epic Double Point Standings.

6: Devin Funchess (#1, APP, #1 ND)
3: Derrick Green(#1 MIA)
2: Devin Gardner (#2, APP), Willie Henry (#2 ND), Jourdan Lewis (#2 MIA)
1: Ryan Glasgow (#3, ND), Brennen Beyer(#3 MIA)
0.5: Kyle Kalis (T3, APP), Ben Braden (T3, APP)

Brady Hoke Epic Double Fist-Pump Of The Week.

For the single individual best moment.

This was a one yard run but let us sit and savor the fact that even against a terrible defense Michigan had a touchdown that looked like this.

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[Upchurch]

Honorable mention: Jake Butt shakes free for a fake screen(!) touchdown, something we haven't seen since Hoke's arrival. Jourdan Lewis runs a guy's fade for him, picks off a ball thrown too far inside. Dennis Norfleet and the KO unit execute a right-sided return on a kick to the left out to the 50. Derrick Green breaks backside and breaks a tackle for a 20-yard gain.

Epic Double Fist-Pumps Past.

AppSt: Derrick Green rumbles for 60 yards.
ND: Nothing.
MIA: Derrick Green scores a goal line touchdown without being so much as touched.

imageMARCUS HALL EPIC DOUBLE BIRD OF THE WEEK.

Worst. Event. Ever. This Week.

Devin Funchess standing on the sideline because Michigan threw him a bubble screen halfway through the fourth quarter of a 31-0 game.

Honorable mention: Delay of game ack ack ack, Gardner interception (deflected, FWIW), kickoff mishap, Darboh fumble, various early runs that didn't go anywhere.

PREVIOUS EPBs

AppSt: Devin Gardner dares to throw an incomplete pass.
ND: Countess nowhere to be found on fourth and three.
Miami: You did what to Funchess now when?

[After the JUMP: getting it together, strangling the opposing offense, and goodbye gun.]

Offense

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[Upchurch]

It came together. Things were grumbly and grim early with Michigan pounding its head against the pillowy soft wall that is the Miami defense with little success, but for whatever reason they got it straightened out on a grinding second quarter drive that plowed them back to the lead, and from there they put together a day that is about on par with reasonable expectations: 6.1 yards a carry.

Michigan couldn't get six yards a carry against anyone last year; hell, in the third game of last season Fitz Toussaint could only manage 71 yards on 19 carries, 3.7 a pop. Akron would go on to finish 54th in the country in that department, decent for a MAC team. Michigan was on average worse than those MAC teams at running on the Zips, and that's with Gardner chipping in 103 on ten carries.

So while it was pretty stupid for about 30 minutes there, by the end things looked about right. The highlights above feature a lot of the offensive line mashing guys yards off the ball, and I won't be surprised to find some missed holes or a Miami tweak that had Michigan confused early when I look at the tape.

Green bounceback. After a torches-and-pitchforks kind of outing against Notre Dame, Derrick Green took a lot more of the large holes provided him and even obeyed Mike Valenti's command to MAKE PLAYS on a second-half cutback that saw him run through a defensive back's tackle to pick up a chunk.

That play was not blocked particularly well; Green went and got those yards himself. Those are the first he's earned by himself in a winged helmet aside from the odd  yard or three he's plowed out after contact.

It's a start.

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[Upchurch]

Darboh steps forward. In Funchess's absence it was Amara Darboh emerging into the top target, with almost half of Michigan's 13 catches including the self-troll touchdown above on which a cornerback in press coverage with inside leverage barely even touched Darboh before giving up that leverage. Hooray touchdown! Boo reminding me of last week.

Darboh looked pretty good, sure handed and athletic enough. Miami is obviously not much of a test in that latter department.

Goodbye, Norfleet. Hope to see you again before the bowl. Norfleet disappeared from the gameplan, taking one 21-yard end-around and IIRC not even getting a target otherwise. That's frustrating. When your only touches other than fair-caught or doomed punts are a 21 yard run and a kickoff return out to the 50, you should be getting more looks.

We've yet to see Norfleet act as a real live receiver downfield except on the drive at the end of the first half against ND, where he got open twice. It seems like it would be really hard to stick with him on option routes underneath, and then he is going to be able to get you some YAC.

Someone show Michigan tape of Steve Breaston.

Goodbye, shotgun. After a game in which Michigan had something like eight under-center snaps not dictated by field position or short yardage, Michigan went under center far more against Miami. Probably more than 50%.

This was in no way a departure as radical as the thousands embarked upon by Borges last year—they're still a one-back, inside-zone focused offense. It's still a little odd. Are they repping the under-center stuff only against tomato cans because they don't have confidence in it yet? Or is it because there's an offense for big games you would like to win and one for This Is Michigan purposes? Or did they decide to de-emphasize the gun after getting shut out?

I don't know. Time will tell.

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Hello Butts. The Butt touchdown was excellent in many ways. It provided breathing room that Michigan needed, it signaled that Butt was just about full-go after his ACL surgery, and it was blitheringly wide open as Michigan successfully faked a wide receiver screen and went over the top.

Did we ever see that under Borges? I don't think so. The number of times Michigan's play design busted a guy wide open was so much lower than it was during the QB oh noes pop pass phase under Rodriguez that it boggled the mind. Funchess got singled on a linebacker in last year's Penn State game, that's one. It's hard to think of others that weren't massive coverage busts that had little to do with the OC. I mean, it's not like Notre Dame was shocked by the Gallon wheel route in 2011. They just blew it.

Anyway: I like that Michigan is making teams defend the whole field and defend the perimeter both short and long. The "long" is still mostly hypothetical but they did try a couple fake-bubble-to-downfield-ish against Notre Dame that didn't go so well.

The next stop for Butt should be replacing Kerridge on a lot of those plays where Michigan splits him out wide. Butt can be a matchup issue on the outside; Kerridge just signals that the defense is in zone.

Also:

Meanwhile, Butt threw up three goggles after his touchdown. Stauskas swag welcome anywhere it shows up.

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This was pretty, but not complete [Upchurch]

Can a brother get some help out here? Shane Morris came in and delivered two perfect downfield darts, neither of which got brought in. This strike to Chesson in the endzone was raked out by the defensive back, which will happen. Heitzman flat dropped a 25-yarder. I know the ball spins the other way but cumong man. Men.

Morris showed that he can be a reasonable threat running the ball. He's more Connor Shaw than Denard, but that's a nice option to have that your artillery piece types don't bring.

Minor one-back complaint. Feels like Michigan should still be deploying an honest to god fullback on short yardage. Michigan got snowed under by penetration once in a fashion that having Kerridge in the backfield may have prevented. I know they have to defend more gaps if you spread 'em out across the line but when it's short yardage the equation changes to make the fullback a better option.

Defense

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[Upchurch]

No problems here. Michigan did what you would expect them to do against a team like Miami, giving up the odd first down here and there and little else. If not for two short fields set up by the Gardner interception and the kickoff mishap Michigan likely shuts Miami out; for the game they gave up under 200 yards of offense.

Even when they did cede first downs it was often a "life happens" kind of event: one particular 20-yard chunk came with 1) Frank Clark breathing down Hendrix's neck, 2) Jabrill Peppers grabbing at the arm of the receiver and 3) Jeremy Clark coming in to bash the guy as soon as he caught it. Okay. If the offense does everything perfectly you can't stop it.

Other than that and the rollout followed by an out first down that everyone always gets Michigan was as good as can be expected.

I should mention that Miami helped things out considerably by being a disheveled mess: false start, delay of game, false start, delay of game, some other penalty for variety. Part of the fan meltdown was that for a good chunk of the second quarter it was unclear if Michigan was any better organized than the goons opposite them.

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Hello. [Upchurch]

That didn't take long. Jabrill Peppers spent most of his playing time at boundary corner, rolled up to the line and playing mean ol' press coverage. This went very well; receivers got the odd bit of separation only and Peppers was able to jam guys into the sideline repeatedly. He split time there with Lewis, and as the season goes along it seems likely that he'll lock down that spot.

That shift saw a number of formations with Countess back at the nickel spot he is familiar with, once again leaving Mattison to sigh and scrap his hybrid space player plans. At least putting Peppers to the boundary allows him to remain part of the blitzing plans; one of Miami's life-happens plays was a pretty back-shoulder fade completed on Jeremy Clark after Peppers was sent on a blitz.

Meanwhile, Countess at nickel is something Michigan knows and does well with. When Taylor gets back it'll be interesting to see what happens; I imagine Countess goes back to full-time nickel with Lewis and Taylor mostly to the field as Peppers comes into his authorita.

Ready the order of St. Kovacs. We'll have to wait until midseason but three games in there is no indication that Ryan Glasgow is in any hurry to cede his starting job. On the first play of this game he ripped his way to the tailback on an interior run; Miami spluttered its way to 1.4 yards a carry with Glasgow carrying the bulk of the NT load. I want to see him against Minnesota and MSU power running outfits before declaring him just plain good, but Heininger Certainty Principle and all that.

On the snaps I was watching him he looked just as good as you would expect a guy coming off that ND game to play.

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This x10 per game [Upchurch]

Clark is okay you guys. The box score once again does not think Frank Clark did much—three tackles, a QB hurry—but I am telling you that tackles are having a very hard time blocking him and he's going to have a game coming up here where he spends a lot of it sitting on the quarterback's head.

Once Michigan gets their coverage figured out and the defensive tackles get a little more push, a little more lane responsibility, those pressures from Clark will start turning into big plays.

Check complaint reprise. A complaint as traditional as the one about the spread punt: it bugs me when Michigan tips a blitz against hurry-up-and-check offenses, sees the offense check in response to that tip, and then runs the blitz anyway. I don't think I saw Michigan check to something else once when this happened, and the blitzes were for the most part easily picked up. (IIRC there was one on which Michigan got through anyway.) Doesn't matter against Miami. Against other teams…

Michigan shouldn't be checking every time this happens, but they should be doing it at least 30-40% of the time so that there's some uncertainty about what Michigan is throwing at you.

Miscellaneous

Special K Dope Beat Of The Week. "Cherry Pie," third quarter. Bringing the Déjà Vu playlist to Michigan Stadium is a little too on the nose in re: tawdry defilement even for the guy who played that Flo Rida song about beejers, know what I'm sayin'?

WE FORGOT HOW TO DO IT. Did we even do the Go… Blue cheer last year? I don't remember doing so because we have to get Candi up to the main stage during commercial breaks now. I may be forgetting because I look at my phone a lot these days in an attempt to not pay attention to the dope beats of the week. Anyway, we tried it against Miami… and we screwed it up.

The way it works: half of stadium is shown signs that say "GO". Other half shown signs that say "BLUE." They alternate. Often there is pointing back and forth. This is not very hard and we have lost even this, as the cheerleaders just showed everybody GO and then BLUE.

1) Have we really lost so much institutional memory that even the freakin' cheerleaders don't have someone around who can say "do it like this because this is how we have done it since Yost"?

2) One of the side-effects of constant very loud music is to disincentivize anyone else from doing something interesting. The students used to chant Go… Blue at each other at various points and now they mostly stand around, doing nothing, because every available moment of space is filled.

It's an apathy machine. Remember the Saddest Tailgate Ever? They've started a series about life in the student section, and their latest entry reminds you of a fact that's shocking once you hear it:

Cow bell? Depressingly not yet this season. Other students reading this: we must fix this if nothing else

There's no cowbell! They've gone full Penn State: suck all the oxygen out of the stadium and watch your niche stuff—the stuff that matters—die. These people could not be worse for Michigan's long term.

For a guy who constantly says the only thing that will ever get students back is cell reception he doesn't seem to be doing anything about it. I got zero reception until the second half when an already kind of empty Michigan Stadium started downsizing in earnest; in contrast my reception at ND was near-flawless. If you actually believe the words you are saying about kids and their screens, why has coverage gone backwards from last year when there was spotty-but-okay wifi for most of the year?

I know for a fact that Michigan is way behind on this. For one, I've had great reception at ND and Penn State. For two, I know that when the NHL was coming in for the Winter Classic they were appalled by the coverage at Michigan and were trying to badger the athletic department into improvements. This is not an area where Michigan is paving the way for thought leaders of tomorrow.

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Best And Worst:

Best:  Depth at Wide Receiver or
Worst:  Is That Depth Only Interchangeable?

It was great to see guys like Darboh, Chesson, and even a brief appearance by Canteen get some focus in a passing attack that still seems to be figuring out what to do with the players available.  Darboh clearly established himself as the starter across from Funchess, and he looked sufficiently athletic enough to punish teams who single-cover him, at least with the ball in his hands (that first fumble was due as much to ball security as a good tackle by Miami).  Chesson couldn't pull in a gorgeous pass from Morris in the endzone when the MU corner swiped his arm, and he was the intended receiver who got crunched on Devin's tipped INT, but he his holding off some decent players for his spot and is also contributing on special teams.  Norfleet didn't catch a pass but had a great kickoff return to start the game and his 21-yard run on 1st down in the 3rd quarter gave Michigan great field position that they ultimately squandered.  Even Jungle Beats got in on the action, and looked like he could be a playmaker as the season progresses.

At the same time, it was a bit disheartening to see the passing offense remain a bit stagnant, at least in terms of downfield threats.  Darboh averaged a shade over 14.5 yards per catch, and that included a 26-yarder that featured quite a bit yac tacked onto a short slant/crossing route.  The longest completion of the day was on Butt's TD, which required absolutely every Miami player to not keep their eyes on a big Butt as it passed them by.

Inside The Box Score:

I think there was a sequence of plays where we may have turned the corner on this running game and left 2013 in the rear-view mirror. With 7:24 to go in the 2nd, Michigan was tied 10-10 with Not that Miami. A pass to Darboh brought the ball to Miami's 40 yard line. After that, Gardner was sacked for a 7 yard loss. I was thinking, "seriously?" My hope is that what happened next is the harbinger of good things to come.
- Green, Derrick rush for 27 yards...
- Green, Derrick rush for 11 yards...
- Green, Derrick rush for 8 yards...
- Green, Derrick rush for 1 yard to the MU0, TOUCHDOWN
Run game established, at least against the Miamis of the world.

More Saddest Tailgate Ever

Game day in Ann Arbor is an experience steeped in tradition. Nevertheless, the stadium experience, and with it the student section experience, has necessarily evolved, even just within my 6+ years in the NW corner. So to kick things off, here are some rapid fire questions/answers:

Kegs? No

Flasks? Yup, though I will add that, at least in the lower sections, most students appear to have gotten less tolerant of drinking and drunkenness from other students. If you’re being positive and happy drunk, great we love you. If you’re incessantly bitching about the team, complaining about the players, generally being negative and happen to stumble into me, I’m getting event staff. And I wouldn’t be the only one.

Marshmallows? Uhh honestly I haven’t seen this in any season I’ve been there…

Beach balls? Have seen them recently, didn’t today.

Cow bell? Depressingly not yet this season. Other students reading this: we must fix this if nothing else

Travelling band? Nope (and I don’t think they have for a year or so but I’m not sure). Definitely remember being entertained by that in years past

We have a mini-UFR on Shane's throws that got dropped, and can I interest you in the state of the Big Ten? No? Right, silly of me to even suggest so.

Elsewhere

Maize and Blue Nation:

At times...like that horrible 5 minute stretch in the second quarter, yes it was ugly...very ugly. But in the second half, when it mattered most Michigan responded. Regardless of what the box score tells us, this Michigan team is still very inconsistent. Maybe it's a product of playing a bad team...maybe a little Notre Dame hangover...poor coaching...poor preparation...maybe its a combination of everything.

Or maybe football is just a weird sport sometimes and things don't always go the way you want. When you have a 2nd quarter like Michigan did, its easy to second guess everything and everyone.

Touch The Banner:

I like Michigan's corners. Jabrill Peppers (3 tackles) played quite a bit on the outside, and while he looked raw in some aspects of coverage, he clearly has the speed, strength, and hips to be a very good corner. It's just a matter of time with him. Jourdan Lewis (1 interception) also looked like a good man coverage guy, which we already knew. They both seemed to get a little more playing time than Blake Countess, although I could be wrong about that. Once Raymon Taylor comes back, I think Michigan will be in good shape. Miami quarterback Andrew Hendrix was completing 48% of his passes but for 338 yards/game coming into this one, and he finished 12/26 for 165 yards, 1 touchdown, and 1 pick.

Also awards.

Sap's Decals:

OFFENSIVE LINE – Kind of stepping out on a limb here but, Derrick Green does not run for 137 yards and 2 TDs without some holes being created by the O-Line.  Derrick Green does not look like High School Derrick Green without the Big Uglies getting it done up front.

I realize the opponent was a MAC school that hadn’t won a game in almost 2 years, but I saw signs of progress by the Hosses in the trenches.  I had a feeling this line would show some addition by subtraction, and now that the 2 senior tackles have left, this unit is starting to gel.  Again, I’m not talking B1G Championship here – just saying that when you gain over 450 yards of offense, the guys up front are something right. Doing it in September is one thing.  Getting it done in November is another.

MVictors:

Not from THERE.  Miami band displayed a “NOT COLUMBUS” banner on the opening number before playing THE VICTORS.  Pandering?  Guilty.  Do I Love it?  Guilty.

Capacity – Two minutes before kickoff, sparse in the student section and the unsold whatever-we-call-it section just north of the students:Sparse

Hoover Street Rag:

On some level, it feels gauche to complain about a 24 point win over a MAC school.  Even one that has now lost nineteen games in a row.  But I think that there is a lesson in Saturday.  It didn't come on the punt debacle at the end of the second quarter.  It didn't come on the special teams meltdown in the middle of the second quarter.  It came at half time.

Watching the Michigan band, and the Michigan choirs, and the flyover, and the Miami band, and well, everything else that was happening simultaneously, my wife turned to me and said "It's like they're trying too hard."  Welcome to the last three years of Michigan football.

Hoke as forthcoming as usual on Funchess injury. 14 ejected, 4 arrested. Braylon Edwards has reputation for being controversial and that's probably why this take is being regarded as hot:

"It's year four, people want to see results in year four. The first couple years they'll give you excuses ... but in year four, you've got your own guys, your own players, your own staff and we want to see the results of your program," Edwards said. "A lot of pressure is on Brady to win three games. He lost one. He lost one of the three and there's a lot of pressure on him to win the other two."

I just think it's accurate.

When Michigan needs him most, they turned to Derrick Green. Or Jake Butt. Or nobody since "needs him most" is definitely not a construction we want to use for Miami (Not That Miami).

I object to this sentence in John Niyo's column:

This is what you get when you’re marketed as an elite team but playing like a generic brand.

Michigan is marketed as a generic brand so hard yo.

Turnovers are bad. Oh look someone's still linking Drew Sharp like it's 2005. More MNBN takes. Offense every snap.

Comments

Shop Smart Sho…

September 15th, 2014 at 1:09 PM ^

A few thoughts.

On both of the passes to Butt, does it appear as though the issue is more with Butt's speed than with the throw that Gardner is making.  It looks like Butt is just a bit slower than Gardner is expecting, which would account for the near interception and the bobble on the fake screen.

Internet rececption in the South Endzone was fantastic.  Last year I couldn't even send a text.  This year I was able to download the roster from MGoBlue so I could figure out who the hell the random WRs on the field were in the first half.  (Seriously, why was Bo Dever playing?)

Cowbell was being used in the South Endzone.  Guy down at the wall was great with it, especially when NTM was backed up near the endzone.  Had the multiple cadences and everything.

B-Nut-GoBlue

September 15th, 2014 at 1:10 PM ^

I see Frank Clark getting close, but I keep seeing him come up short on, getting sacks.  I know he's somewhat affecting plays and maybe hurrying QBs, but man, I want to see him demolish more and see less of "well, he was so close on that play".

FreddieMercuryHayes

September 15th, 2014 at 1:20 PM ^

True, but that kind of stuff is usually not Clark's fault.  It's not like he has teleporting ability.  He's doing everything he can, but he needs other dudes on the defense as well.  In 2009, didn't Brandon Graham have like no sacks for the firs 4-5 games?  He finished the season with 20+ TFLs and like 10 sacks.  Not saying Clark is Graham, but I think it'll come.  It came for Clark last year where the 'almost' plays started turning into big plays down the stretch.

stephenrjking

September 15th, 2014 at 1:13 PM ^

The stuff about in-game experience is troubling. Obviously the piped-in music has been happening for a while now. I have mostly kept quiet about this, because I loathe piped in music at all sports more than virtually anybody and don't trust myself to be balanced about it. But no cowbell? No "Go Blue" cross-stadium cheer? No traveling mini-band? These are essential pieces of the fabric of attending Michigan games. Things you don't get on tv at home. They are part of what separates college football, and particularly Michigan football, from other events. Or, at least, they were. And if that is disappearing, it is awful. And it is Dave Brandon's fault.

Ivan Karamazov

September 15th, 2014 at 1:34 PM ^

I assume that they prioritize the traveling band to go out in to the non student sections seeing as the badnd sits in the student section. Since the quote on no mini-band comes from inside the student section(SaddestTailgateEver) I'd take that report with a grain of salt.  I was at the app st. game and the mini-band came to the SE endzone, though I cant speak for NTM as I was not in attendance.

TIMMMAAY

September 15th, 2014 at 8:56 PM ^

The "Go Blue" cheer was fine for the App St game. The wave got killed though, because the students started it while we were on offense and we scored, band plays The Victors and wave dies. I also read somewhere on here that they screwed up the wave again this week. That's the biggest thing to not screw up IMO. 

The overall stadium experience has steadily degraded over DB's tenure, no doubt about that. It bothers me a whole bunch. 

Bocheezu

September 15th, 2014 at 1:42 PM ^

but I felt like there was a lot less piped-in music this game.  I heard the band a lot, because I remember them playing over the Miami band pretty much all the time.  It seems like most of the piped-in music is relagated to kickoffs, which is annoying but not super terrible.

There are still moments where the music is played for zero reason, just a 10 second snippet that leads to nowhere.  This happened during pregame before the team ran out of the tunnel -- multiple songs before they actually ran out.  It happened later in the 2nd half as well.  But there's no Eminem cheer any more and no more In the Big House, so it's not like it's super invasive.      

Indiana Blue

September 15th, 2014 at 2:46 PM ^

I thought the same thing at App. St. game, so last Saturday I paid attention.  It was there and it SUCKED.  Really ... Cherry Pie?  WTF.    It's like they found Brandon's old Ipod and just stuck it in.  C'mon Dave get a grip ... that is NOT entertainment.   And totally agree on the mini- super bowl halftime show.  I'd rather watch repeats of "Ferris Bueller" or the "Wizard of Oz" halftime shows every week than the trumped up "vagas showtimes" any day.  The MMB is awesome - they don't need the "help".

Go Blue!

maize-blue

September 15th, 2014 at 2:19 PM ^

Very true, that they've been scoring. But, I'm not sure what they have. Of their two wins, Fresno State is 0-3 and been blown out in all three losses. Their other win, Idaho State, I think, is maybe D-II or D1-AA and they've only won one game. So, their competition has been on the down side. But, I'm sure they're looking at our wins in the same way and probably really hanging alot on the ND loss. I'm sure they'll be confident and this will have to be a win that UM will have to earn.

alum96

September 15th, 2014 at 2:45 PM ^

A cursory glance of the Nebraska - Fresno State game vs the Utah - Fresno State game shows a lot of similar stat lines in the box score.  Nebraska did it on the road (WTF does Nebraska have to travel to Fresno State?) while Utah did it at home.  Using the never failing transitive property, I am expecing a 90% of Nebraska strength type of team to show up in AA next week - i.e a squad that would go 7-5 in the Big 10 most years.

readyourguard

September 15th, 2014 at 1:15 PM ^

56 minutes of sound, fundamental football: blocking, running, passing, catching, tackling.

4 minutes of clown show: muffed kick, stupid fumble, unfortunate pass, clock management.

I'm okay with that.  I am very anxious to see the boys this weekend against a team with a pulse from a Power 5 conference. 

Go Blue!.

Maximinus Thrax

September 15th, 2014 at 1:54 PM ^

That's how I felt about it.  Not a perfect game, but a few bad breaks made it seem much, much worse than it was.  I was a little surprised at the doom and gloom from Ace Saturday, and this article is much more levelheaded.  The story of this game for me is D. Green.   He took over on that scoring drive unlike any RB we have seen here for many years.  That was a thing of beauty.

mGrowOld

September 15th, 2014 at 1:15 PM ^

I remember once booing as loudly and as long as I could at the coaching staff back when Carr had Debord as his OC.  I don't remember the year but what i do remember is being down very late in the game and needing a score to win.  We had the ball and were faced with a 4th and 15 or something and play called had Tyler Eckert running a shallow drag route to the boundry and Navarre (pretty sure it was Navarre anyways) hit him for about a 4 yard gain and that was it.  Turnover on downs and game over.  So I boo'd as did most of the stadium at the abject stupidity of calling a play with a four yard pass to the boundry to a hulking, slow TE as one of the options.

On the way home that night I listened as Carr railed on the fans for booing the players cause they were trying so damn hard and that booing them just wasnt right.  I wanted to jump through the radio and scream "it wasnt directed at them - it was directed at your idiot OC" so I learned that the coaches hear and believe what they want to hear and believe.

So to a coach booing = not supporting the troops.  No matter how incompently the "troops" are being led.

Space Coyote

September 15th, 2014 at 1:55 PM ^

This is why coaches might feel you are booing the players. That may have had three vertical routes and a shallow drag from the TE because that was the design of the play. That's a fairly common three vert set of route combinations. Even if it was two verts, a 15 yard dig, a shallow TE route, is fairly common.

So maybe Navarre, because it's what he repped for that play consistently, made his reads, and checked down to a TE in hopes the underneath coverage was run off, because that's the progression of the play and how the play is set up in normal situations. Of course, in that situation, that doesn't do you much good, a mistake surely by Navarre. An understandable mistake, but a mistake nonetheless.

So you booing what you viewed as a "shallow drag route" play call may have been viewed different from a coaching staff that had a different insight to what was going on on the field of play. So when the player messes it up (because the coaches in this situation know that the QB shouldn't have thrown there), they view it as the fans all collectively booing the kid that made an understandable mistake. It's a different perspective, but it isn't just hearing what you want to believe.

Reader71

September 15th, 2014 at 2:45 PM ^

It speaks to how easily fans are willing to assume a coach is stupid. Lloyd Carr is a lot of things, but stupid is not one of them. He didn't call for a 4 yard play on 4th and 15, he called a play that he thought could succeed and that play happened to have a 4 yard route built in. And that 4 yard route had a purpose; he was trying to draw a safety up, etc. Why doesn't anyone try to empathize? When discussing play calling, empathy is issue #1: what was the idea behind it? As a former player, let me assure anyone that has any doubts: players think you are booing them. More to the point, even if you held up a sign that said, "We love you players, we are booing your coach," most players would still take that as a personal attack -- the coach is their coach, God damn it, and no outsider can talk bad about their family. We are trained to believe that every play can succeed if we execute. Film usually bears this out, as we can always see the one thing that we didn't do that would have led to a better play. The coaches trust the guys to execute (or they sit) and the players trust the coaches to put them in the best position to succeed. So when we hear boos, we feel them. They are directed towards us, we're the guys on the field executing the plays. Jake Ryan said something in the presser about fans booing the decision not to go for it. He gets it. But I guarantee that he thinks the people booing are wrong, because he feels that his coaches have his best interests (winning) in mind. Fans always want to go for it, that's no surprise.

mGrowOld

September 15th, 2014 at 3:22 PM ^

Both you and Space are probably correct in that the route prolly had one or more verts that I didnt pick-up on as I was watching the ball travel four yards and the watched Eckert run out of bounds.  And you're also probably right that the players interalized the booing to think it was directed at them even though it most certainly was not.

I can say however that was the one and only time I remember doing it in some 30 years of going to games and I was definitely joined by most of the stadium which is way Lloyd noticed it and commented on it afterwards.   Not quite sure how fans are expected to show displeasure with coaches and their decision-making however if booing is not allowed.  

And while I agree Lloyd was no idiot I will happily engage the debate on the intellectual qualifications of Mike Debord as an OC.  Just because he had the job doesnt mean he was any good at it nor did it make him smart.

Reader71

September 15th, 2014 at 3:41 PM ^

That's a tricky thing. I have never booed. But I've had some experience that has led me to the belief that booing is never acceptable. I was a part of championship teams that were booed. Championship teams! Most fans don't have that experience, so while I would prefer they don't boo, I can't expect them not to. As for Debord, say what you will about his skill as a coach. There is a lot of data to support you if you want to make an argument against him. But I don't think saying, "he called a 4 yard pass on 4th and 15," is a legitimate data point. He might be dumb, but dumb doesn't explain a 4 yard pass on 4th and 15; coverage and pressure do.

Reader71

September 15th, 2014 at 4:05 PM ^

It doesn't matter. You can't just draw up a new play that hasn't been repped before. So you go with what you've got that is appropriate for 4th and 15. And like SC said, that read and throw weren't appropriate in that situation, but the play itself can serve multiple purposes: there are deep receivers, short receivers and intermediate receivers throughout the field. It's a play designed to challenge the defense at multiple vertical levels. Wangler's famous TD to Carter is a perfect example. First, the play was built with play action, when no one on earth thought a run was coming. They called a play that they knew could work. Then, the pass was 20 yards short of the end zone, in front of a safety. The pass doesn't always have to be past the sticks. Was Bo stupid?

MileHighWolverine

September 15th, 2014 at 4:29 PM ^

@Reader71 - I don't know....it worked so I guess not? 

I'm very frustrated at what seems to be gross incompetence from the bottom to the top for our coaches for the better part of 14 years now and that frustration is coloring a lot of my posts here. It's not personal, just in case it's coming off that way.

 

Now, having said that, I feel like we have been trying to shove a Square Peg in a Round Hole since Carr was the head man. While I was extremely happy at how we crushed Florida in his final bowl game, that game plan was the one we should have been rolling with the entire season and proved to me just how out of touch he was with modern football to the detriment of our program. He had guys who could PLAY and he never took off the training wheels.

 

Then we get Rich Rod, who I think would have been the perfect coach for us if ANYONE had bothered to mentor him like Bo was when he first started. No one did and for a lot of reasons, a lot of which were his doing, Rich Rod gets axed 3 years into his tenure - something we laughed at ND for doing with Willingham as stupid and short sighted just a few years prior.

 

Now we have Hoke, who I know is a good man and tries hard but seems completely overwhelmed by the demands of the HC position. We haven't had a coherent plan, at least on O, since the day he walked in. I really want him to suceed so I can be happy watching UofM again but I'm not convinced. I'm at the "put up, or shut up" end of my spectrum and 3 games in I haven't seen him "put up" enough to give me confidence. 

Reader71

September 15th, 2014 at 5:01 PM ^

Mile high, that's the point about playcalling. That's why I hate playcalling complaints. There is a lot that goes into a call but all we see is the result. And there is an inherent grass is greener thing going on: if a play doesn't work, any other one would be better. As far as your opinion, its a very valid one. No one can fault you for it. My point of view, if you care, is that I'm not particularly worried about scheme on either side of the ball, so long as it is run well. I do think our current offense is worthwhile and hope it is given a chance to work. But I don't care, I'm not a schematic dogmatist.

Reader71

September 15th, 2014 at 7:31 PM ^

There are glimmers of hope. The OL is looking almost exactly like I suspected they would: better than 2013, still not good. But this is a line that, while prone to mistakes in pass protection and not consistent in the run game, has far fewer busts, and so a coordinator can at least call a play without holding his breath. It's sad, but at this point, its a plus. The run defense is legitimately good. I don't see any team gashing us all day. So we wont be ground into submission, we will have a chance to make some third down stops and kill some drives. And I'm not sure our coverage is going to be bad, we've got talent back there.

dnak438

September 15th, 2014 at 4:21 PM ^

but I couldn't. Navarre was QB from (parts of) 2000 to 2003. Tyler Ecker played 2003 to 2006. In 2003, Michigan had no home losses and three away: @Oregon, @Iowa, and vs. USC in the Rose Bowl.

The only home losses that Navarre played in were 2001 Ohio State and 2002 Iowa. The latter game was a blowout (9-34). The former game was close (20-26) but the game ended when Navarre threw a pick. There was one turnover on downs in that game by Michigan, but it was an incomplete pass.

Anyway, a dead end, unless someone else can remember the play.

Reader71

September 15th, 2014 at 11:29 PM ^

It could just as easily have been any of the 3rd and 10 plays that saw Joey Harrington throw a swing pass to his outlet guy. Even if MGrowOld didn't remember the play clearly, the sentiment is true for most fans. Why didn't we throw it past the sticks? My hunch is he's thinking of the end of game pass to Ecker v. Minnesota in which Ecker didn't lateral it to Breaston.

Lucky Socks

September 15th, 2014 at 1:21 PM ^

Watching on TV I remember thinking it was way too short. The coaches obviously thought they didn't reset the clock. Any input from people in the stadium? Was the clock operator partially at fault?

bstaub32

September 15th, 2014 at 1:29 PM ^

From above - rshp1

The best I could tell was this:

Nussmeier was in the middle of a fiery speech to the offense during the TO.

The official came over and blew the whistle to signal the end of the TO and the clock started running immediately.

Nussmeier continued to talk for about 5-10 seconds before sending in the team to the field and then after that, gave the play to Gardner.

We got out of the huddle actually ok, but had a big motion shift that took too long.

Gardner then gave a hard-count to try and draw the defense offsides and the clock ran out.

 

So, while the clock probably got started earlier than the coaches were expecting and probably faster than typically happens, it was pretty much on the coaches, particularly Nuss for taking too long. Then, no one, not Gardner, not Hoke, not an GA who's assigned to watch the play clock, noticed the time winding down. We actually had time to get the play off, but were trying to draw Miami offsides.

It was a hollistic failure of game management from everyone on Michigan, with maybe a small amount of blame owed to the refs.

Isaac Newton

September 15th, 2014 at 1:24 PM ^

Watch the film of the Morris to Chesson throw.  It was far from "perfect," and might be a stretch to even call it good.  Chesson had his man clearly beaten.  The throw was a yard behind where it should have been, causing Chesson to slow down, allowing the defender to make up the ground, and making what should have been an easy catch, a difficult catch.  A catch you still need your receiver to make...

Space Coyote

September 15th, 2014 at 1:31 PM ^

I know "stats", but stats never tell the whole story. Obviously, going for it on 4th and 1 is correct. I think everyone agrees with that.

Then you get a delay penalty and it pushes you back to the 36 with a minute left. I actually think this is something Hoke handles differently based on situation and momentum of the game, as he should. If this is MSU he's facing, he goes for it. You have to try to get points when you're in position to get points. If you had flipped the first and second quarter and Michigan's play, I think Hoke probably goes for it. Again, recent success (or lack there of) makes a turnover on downs a potential issue.

Here's the thing, at the end of the day, Michigan just came off three TOs in that quarter. The only way Miami is at all a threat is if you give them cheap points. A turnover on downs on their 36 (or worse if you get sacked) is one big play from having them put up points and getting them back in the game. Say one first down and a chunk gain (like 30 yards) gets them essentially a 40 yard FG try and actually puts them in the game. That's the only threat Michigan faces, is giving up a short field or cheap points.

Now, I probably would have gone for it still at 4th and 6. If it was 4th and 6 to start, without the delay penalty, I probably would lean toward punting. My feeling after the delay is I would tend to say "screw it, I thought we could pick it up before and we'll do it anyway". It's kind of the chip on the shoulder thing. But man, if I would have said to do that and it backfired in some way, I'd really be kicking myself. Giving up cheap points and further hurting your offense's confidence could really backfire.

So while I probably would have handled it a little differently, given the circumstances, I just don't really put too much blame there. The delay penalty was bad, the QB needs to find the play clock when he gets to the LOS, regardless of ref error (or which there was). But after that, I don't really have issue. And leading up to it, I thought the clock managment is where you want it: 30 yards to go, 2 timeouts, 1 minute on the clock.

Shop Smart Sho…

September 15th, 2014 at 1:41 PM ^

I do love that you found a way to essentially absolve the coaching staff of any culpability for the Delay of Game penalty.  

So many things they could have done to prevent that.

1.  Call a timeout

2.  Don't call in the play and then huddle when coming out of a TO.

3.  Recognize that this is the 4th year that you have been painfully slow in getting to the line and getting plays off.  Actually realize that it is a problem and FIX it.

dragonchild

September 15th, 2014 at 1:51 PM ^

Agreed.  That punt -- and the game overall -- was Michigan's Grenada, sloppy because it could afford to be.  The TD that put Michigan back up 17-10 basically established to me that NTM wasn't in the game.  It wasn't some Hail Mary flea flicker that worked because the DB fell down; UM marched across the field and punched it in.  NTM only got 10 points due to some terrible luck on Michigan's part and a clever pop-up kickoff that didn't work again.  UM derped the 4th-and-1 but it was a possession they didn't desperately need unless it was, as you say, a rivarly game.  Not against a team that had to play out of its mind just to get first downs.

But the offense had been suffering from terrible luck, so I agree that the punt was just an "eff it, it's almost halftime and the D is in control" moment.  The context is everything.  Was it badly executed?  Sure.  I know there are some around here that insist "great teams always play perfectly" but that's just not true.  I was there the year UM won its last national championship and there were plenty of derpa-derp moments.  What made them great is that they made those moments not matter.

And this time, they made that 2nd quarter not matter.  They probably could've run up the score in the 4th but they were doing just fine running around, over and through NTM's defense.  This team still has a long way to go, but my gosh it's looking cohesive for the first time in years.

Frankly, I've never seen a fan base more upset about a 24-point blowout.  We didn't look anywhere near this in control against Akron or Connecticut.