SMU 82, Michigan 58 Comment Count

Ace


mood: whiskey

The excuses don't quite cut it.

Yes, Michigan didn't have their starting point guard, Yes, they went on the road against a good SMU squad, and couldn't fly to Dallas until this morning. Yes, they're young and inexperienced. Yes, Caris LeVert had an uncharacteristically awful game.

The Mustangs managed to weather the loss of one of their key players, though, flourishing despite the departure of Markus Kennedy in the opening minute. The issues that have plagued Michigan's defense all season came to the fore tonight; SMU got dunk after dunk after dunk created by all-too-easy dribble penetration; the Mustangs didn't miss often, but when they did, they were more likely than not to grab the rebound; they rained in 8-of-15 threes on more open looks created by shoddy perimeter defense.

Walton's absence doesn't explain all of that. Youth only goes so far. Same for weather-impacted travel plans.

LeVert went 1-for-13 tonight. Without him carrying the load, only Muhammad-Ali Abdur-Rahkman and Duncan Robinson could crack double-digit points. Even with the extenuating circumstances taken into account, Michigan remains too reliant on one player to carry the load on one end, and they're entirely too lost on the other to make up for it.

Michigan's next four opponents, each ranked worse than 250th on KenPom, all come to Crisler. That's welcome news for a team that needs to do quite a bit of tuning up before they're ready to take on the Big Ten.

Comments

Mevo

December 8th, 2015 at 11:45 PM ^

If I were Beilein I'd take my big guys (Donnal, Doyle, Wilson, Mo) and have them live in the weight room.  This team lacks strength, size, bulk and toughness in the paint.  This is Donnal's third year in the program and he still looks weak.  These guys should be on a high protein diet and living in the weight room.  We need a big time upgrade in toughness in the paint.

AnthonyThomas

December 8th, 2015 at 11:54 PM ^

It's evident watching not only this team but also Michigan's recent NBA guys that not a lick of defense is taught by this coaching staff. That's two out of three major sports where that is the case right now. 

maizedNblued

December 9th, 2015 at 12:56 AM ^

One look at the boxscore led me to think of something crazy and certainly not a viable option with common basketball sense - In 40 minutes, Doyle, Wilson, Wagner and Donnal collected 8 rebounds, Chatman collected 2 in 9 minutes - I'm tired of seeing a top 100 recruit sit on his behind without giving him a shot. It's obvious rebounding is not a concern for JB and watching those other four drop passes, not rebound, get beat and miss bunny lay-ups hurts my eyes too much - play Chatman at the 5, play man and double any passes immediately to the post then scramble scramble scramble defensively. Our best rebounders are our wings and guards. Spread the floor on offense and work in Doyle/Wilson/Wagner/Donnal as you see fit. I say give it a shot or at least work it in. 

Huma

December 9th, 2015 at 8:42 AM ^

I like the sentiment but Chatman is outmuscled at the 4 already so he would get manhandled at the 5 on defense. He is just way too timid out there. We need a super active, high energy, tough guy to play the 5 and unfortunately we don't have that on our roster at all. Wagner is really our only hope. Beilfeldt would have been a good fit as well.

maizedNblued

December 9th, 2015 at 9:13 AM ^

Chatman is definitely too small hence the reason you just double the post on the catch - it's a crazy idea I realize but it's time to find a role for him and it pains me to watch our four centers not grab rebounds because of lack of athleticism/hands - food for thought.

JOHNNAVARREISMYHERO

December 9th, 2015 at 2:15 AM ^

Miss wide open shot after shot.

Pass up wide open shots.

No effort on defense.

Sickening to watch this garbage.

 

 

Rick Grimes

December 9th, 2015 at 4:21 AM ^

The game was really bad. Maar and Robinson both played good though. Random question: why is Michigan's non-conference home slate so bad? The next four opponents are all lower than 250 which means beating them soundly may give Michigan a confidence boost, but it probably won't help correct issues with rebounding, defense, and so on.

Richard75

December 9th, 2015 at 7:09 AM ^

Good question. This is just a guess, but it appears U-M reacted to last year's nonconference meltdown by scheduling as easily as possible.

Xavier, NC State and SMU we had no choice on because of conference commitments and SMU being a home-and-home return. You pretty much have to play a tournament, or else you aren't maximizing your game total (or preparing for postseason neutral-site environments). Other than those compulsory games, we scheduled nobodies.

Also telling is the complete absence of in-state nonconference schools (D-II Northern aside). We haven't touched Oakland for a while, but after losing to Eastern last year with all our guys and getting a scare from UDM, it's logical to surmise that Beilein didn't want to go down that road again.



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PburgGoBlue

December 9th, 2015 at 8:30 AM ^

I could find 5 brothers at Gunkle South in downtown Toledo and they could do better than this team. Same issue with the Football team, too many nice guys, not enough ballers. But Hey, at least we get the kids that do good in their General Studies courses. 

rob f

December 9th, 2015 at 9:04 AM ^

Sorry to break the news, but the sky is NOT falling. I don't get the gloom and doom and especially lack of faith in the coaching and leadership abilities of Beilein and his staff. We have two seniors (Spike and Irvin) who are still trying to get up to speed after surgery, and a rotation and bench that still need sorting out. And why the bad-mouthing of the football team and the character of the student-athletes on both teams? Have at least a little faith!

PburgGoBlue

December 9th, 2015 at 9:27 AM ^

Faith? Since the turn of the Century, the Football team has beat OSU twice, the Bball team has one National Championship appearance, other than that it has been poo pooh. 

I am questioning them because we get punched in the mouth in both sports by bigger, badder, stronger teams and they don't do shit about it. So let's go get those guys a recent alum was talking about and start beating our rivals, I don't know, just a thought. Or we can continue to pound our chest about Academics. 

Steve in PA

December 9th, 2015 at 8:57 AM ^

Thoroughly abused on a screen &roll all night. I teach that play and how to defend it to 4th graders! The big was repeatedly out of position everytime they went to 1-3-1! Speaking of Caris, he played NBA allstar game quality defense as he waved at the guard blowing by him most of the night.

 

This team is regressing and not improving week-to-week. There has been too many bad misses with roster spots at this point to show much improvement. Without names, there is at least 3 players who have shown they are not capable of playing at the D1 level. None of those 3 are guards, hence the gigantic holes inside.

I love JB but maybe it is time to start having that conversation as was mentioned by a poster above? This team is a middling BigTen team. The blueprint for what Sparty and others will be trying to exploit was shown in this game (again).

kstevens26

December 9th, 2015 at 9:00 AM ^

We have ZERO inside presence on this team. Our bigs can't score consistently or stop anyone else. It's quite pathetic honestly.

Also, our small lineup doesn't matchup well against big teams and we need to adjust. I thought Mo/DJ were getting reps at the 4? We need a bigger lineup we can go with to matchup with certain teams or it's going to be a long big ten season

dragonchild

December 9th, 2015 at 9:03 AM ^

Well this is a weird panic.  I haven't followed Michigan basketball nearly as long as I have the football program, but I feel like I'm the only one following it at all.  Over the past few seasons, Beilein's squads have consistently been slow starters.  Like, REALLY slow starters.  They always look iffy at the start of the season.  The NC run was something completely different but for those specifically pining for McGary, FYI he didn't start for most of that season.

Anyway, they're 6-3 now.  Last season they finished a relatively disappointing 16-16; they started 6-3.  The year before they made the Elite 8 and finished 28-9; they started that season. . . 6-3.  That included a loss to Charlotte.  The year before the NC run they won 24 games after starting 7-2 but even that included almost losing to Western Illinois.

Will they be OK?  I don't know.  I honestly don't know.  I'm not going to say it's going to be fine because I haven't a clue, and that's because Beilein's teams always start this way.  In the prior two seasons alone a 6-3 start either meant Elite 8 or missing the tourney altogether.  If Beilein can flip that switch in the players' heads they'll improve drastically.  If they hit a wall of athletic limitations we could miss the tourney again.  It all depends on how much they improve during the season.  They're unlikely to make the Final Four, but beyond that the only thing a slow sloppy 6-3 start means is that this team is being coached by John Beilein.

PburgGoBlue

December 9th, 2015 at 9:31 AM ^

Is it really coaching? Chucking 30+ 3 pointers? Our first two offensive possessions were a last second heeve and a shot clock violation, what a great start. We have not been able to get a defensive rebound for five years straight now, have no identity again on offense. 

 

I guess I could look at it the other way, if Caris scores 15 - 20 we only lose by 6? I don't have the answers, coaches? players? Not sure what it is, but it hasn't looked good. 

Hannibal.

December 9th, 2015 at 1:19 PM ^

You can't compare this team to the 2012 team or the 2014 team.  Both of those teams looked much better in the eyeball test department and their losses were more competitive games.  Each of them lost a respectable game to Duke and the 2014 team lost a competitive game at a good Iowa State team. 

The most optimistic comparison that is possible with this year's team is the 2011 team that started off terrible and then righted the ship in time to win one NCAA tournament game.  An 8-9 NCAA tourney game would exceed expectations from this point forward and that's a huge disappointment for this team, which was suppposed to be one of Beilien's better ones (if you're going to have shitshow years where you don't make the NIT then you better make up for it with at least an NCAA berth the next year).  My guess is that the current trajectory is somewhere in the NIT bubble range. 

PublicSector

December 9th, 2015 at 10:30 AM ^

As a fan, watching this game was a lot like when your football team can't stop the run. SMU was gaining 15 yards a play off tackle all night long. How many dunks did they have? One guy alone had 9. This isn't "meeting the eye test". 

What to do: 

1. I like the idea above - use the bench and press the hell out these types of teams. (Since they end up scoring with dunks anyhow.) I don't think we scored once off the fast break last night. This is where LeVert would shine.

2. Move LeVert back on defense to a 3 maybe 4.

3. Let's face it the answer is going to have to come from Donnal / Wilson / Wagner / Chatman. These are the role players that need to rebound and play interior defense. Last night in the few minutes they played the 4 of them combined for 1 foul. They ALL should have 3 or 4 the way that game went. An earlier comment mentioned Chatman had 2 rebounds in minimal time and everyone responded his offensive game is weak. So what! - If he has ANY natural rebounding skills who cares if he never scores. I also think Wilson obviously needed to see the floor sooner last night too.

4. Rebounding and interior defense does not require a 5 star McGary. U of D, Oakland, Eastern, Toledo - basically everybody is doing it better than us right now with 6'7" 2 stars. There actually may be a creative way of finding a walkon that can rebound better than everyone mentioned in #3.

5. Coach needs to focus more on this - this is not the 1st year of this problem.

Sorry for the long post - thanks for reading this far.

Whole Milk

December 9th, 2015 at 11:32 AM ^

Okay, I just have to come out and say it, and it pains me because I love D-Rob 2.0's amazingly gifted shooting ability as much as the next guy. I think in order for us to be successful as a team, he cannot be playing 22 minutes a game unless it's a specific matchup that works. He is too much of a liability on the defensive end and does very little outside of shooting threes. He certainly has his role, but for an offense that was already way too stagnant, adding a guy who does nothing besides shoot threes, for long periods of time derails any offensive game plan.

Now I am not saying that he is the only issue (Big guys, lack of effort, forced shots), but against the more athletic teams, he is a main cog in the poor defensive machine. And that is by no fault of his own, just far less athletic than so many others.

Whole Milk

December 9th, 2015 at 12:46 PM ^

I agree with you that having him on the team is an asset, but I think his height may be overrated a bit. He doesn't do anything with it. Points aren't everything, and right now, he is great at one aspect of his game, and subpar with everything else. To rely on someone like that for as many minutes as he has been playing recently is a dangerous game.

Bertello NC

December 9th, 2015 at 12:12 PM ^

It seems everyone but MAAR, and Levert have regressed. I mean Doyle just looks downright awful. Like his adidas's are made of concrete as well as his hands. He has gotten worse. It's really amazing how much JB did in the years with stu and zack.
We really need a couple athletic junkyard dogs out there. Or at least some guys that have that mentality. We seem to be a team that has little to no grit. We're too nice. I'd hate to see what the likes of Bobby knight would do in a practice with these guys. And I would agree I think JB needs to tweak his recruiting philosophy in terms of 4/5's and then find a coach who can teach defensive fundies or the whole staff should go to some coaching clinics on defense and rebounding. No reason it should be this atrocious. It has to be demoralizing as a team to give up Offensive rebound after rebound after rebound. Dunk after dunk after alley-oop.

Bertello NC

December 9th, 2015 at 1:06 PM ^

Just a thought and I may be way off base here but why couldn't we work on a 2-3 zone. Mask some of our on ball defensive deficiencies. Schedule sets up where we could afford to play with it.

kstevens26

December 9th, 2015 at 3:13 PM ^

This team would be good if we had a good center and a 4 that wasn't afraid to crash the boards. I said it after the Xavier game and I'll say it again. Our bigs suck... plain and simple.

 

Wagner is our only glimmer of hope because he knows how to use his height and will try to position for rebounds.

 

I'm surprised Doyle can even dunk, people grab boards over him multiple times per game.

 

We miss J-Mo. A great defensive stopper.