Monday Presser 9-25-17: Jim Harbaugh Comment Count

Adam Schnepp

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Do you have an update on Wilton [Speight] and his condition?

“If we were playing a game this week he wouldn’t be able to play and we’ll assess it as we go.

“Somebody asked me—Angelique?—what I thought of the play. After having seen it now, I thought it was egregious. If I had a stronger word to use I would use it. With all the emphasis on protecting defenseless players, it appeared that the player knew what he was doing, targeted the head and neck area when the player was on the ground, and accelerated into it. Surprised they had two officials standing back there that were both looking at it, plus a review in the press box, that that wasn’t a targeting, that wasn’t a personal foul.”

Is that something that you contact the Big Ten about? There were other hits in that game, too.

“Yeah, yeah. We will contact them.”

What do you get when you do contact them?

“You get a piece of paper back that says they agree or disagree and has a short explanation.”

So it doesn’t really solve anything.

“With all the emphasis that’s been placed on the safety of the game, et cetera, I think it needs to be addressed. Needs to be answered.

“And the other thing, in a very good spirited way, we are gonna look at everything we can do for the visiting team here at the University of Michigan as it relates to a standard of care for the visitors on multiple levels. It’s become apparent after going around to all the visiting schools over the last couple years that [there is] a conscious effort of gamesmanship that is unsportsmanlike. You have locker rooms that are too small; they’re not heated or cooled properly—in this case there’s no air conditioning; such a tight, cramped environment; you’ve got to open the doors to get some kind of ventilation going in a very small area; people are walking by, they’re watching you dress; a number of urinals or bathrooms for the players and staff, I think there was two; there’s not even a private door around it; and then mainly the health and safety of the players. Very small space for a training room to have nothing in it. This is no different than the facility I think I saw when I was there in 1986.

“And not putting this on Purdue, this is league-wide. It needs to be addressed by the league, by the commissioner, and we’re going to lead the way. We’re going to look at what we have, but there needs to be a way to x-ray a player at the stadium. There needs to be a minimum standard of care for the players. Again, we put a lot of emphasis into health and safety of the players, but it doesn’t even seem sanitary. You were all in there. We’ve already talked about the heat, and it seems to be a conscious effort to gamesmanship, to get an advantage over the opponent.

“And I wish I had taken a picture of the actual table that it given to the visitors to put the players on when they’re injured. I mean, it looks like it’s from the ‘20s. It was ripped, it was—it’s just not good. I think that’s a pattern in the Big Ten. I asked Don Brown, ‘Did you see the same thing in the ACC?’ ‘Not to this extent.’ Did not see it to this extent in the Pac 12 when we coached there, and you could keep going on. Injured players who can’t get an x-ray, taken to a student health center in a van, we needed a brace for a player and there wasn’t one at the facility we were taken to. There’s a lot of things that needs to be addressed.

“Talked to Warde [Maneul] about it and I would ask that the rest of the Big Ten coaches look into this as well and make this a priority. We’re talking about all of our players here, and we’ll start first with us and make sure that you have guests, you have visitors that are coming in, that their health and safety needs are being addressed.”

[After THE JUMP: “Gamesmanship should cease at… the point of health and safety for the players.”]

Did you put the starters on a bus before the game, an air-conditioned bus?

“I said that they had the option to go in there because as I just said, it was so cramped, it was so hot, it was like a hot box. Really the only way to get relief was to open the doors. Again, you have people watching you dress. It’s not good. I’ve seen this at other facilities in the Big Ten. It needs to be addressed by the commissioner. I would hope that they would look into it immediately. Hope that it does some good.”

I don’t know if you can go into any more detail than you just did about that but what is the next step? How quickly do you hope teams can turn that around and when you say Michigan leading the way, what type of thing are you hoping to do?

“We’ll look at visitors’ locker room, our facilities there. It’s 2017. We should all be able to—I know we provide a floral x-ray but what else could be done? X-ray machines in the stadium. Enough space. Hot water. I think we do provide that. Multiple bathroom facilities that somebody can be in and they’re sanitary and it’s clean. But what else can we do? Got to make sure that ours is good as well and come up with a whole procedure, protocol, of what the standards should look like and hope that all the teams follow.

“And request that they do. Together we should be able to do this and I urge my fellow coaches to weigh in as well and get their thoughts. I think it’s something that we can all agree on that it is 2017, it’s not the ‘30s, it’s not the ‘40s, it’s not the ‘50s, ‘60s, ‘70s, or ‘80s. There’s been advancements and it needs to—our stadiums need to reflect that. Visiting locker rooms need to reflect that. Gamesmanship should cease at the line, the point of health and safety for the players.”

Switching gears a little bit, obviously the bye week’s good for Wilton to rest up but given the way the offense is clicking, especially in the second half where it looked probably the best it has all year, is there ever a bad term for a bye week in terms of momentum? Would it be almost better for you guys to play this weekend instead of having this break momentum-wise? Does it throw anything off?

“We treat it as an improvement week. So we’ll be looking for improvement. Better today than yesterday, better tomorrow than today. See if we can’t get a mile an hour faster. See if we can’t get 1% better. Maybe 4% better. Maybe 0.01% better. But we’ll be looking for improvements.”

For John though, saying if Wilton can’t go, for John he’s coming off one of his best games of his career. I imagine he’s probably itching to get back on the field. With the bye week, does that throw a quarterback off in any way?

“Same for John. Looking for it as an improvement week, and all the players on our team: starters, backups, contributors, reserves, the very, very young players that haven’t played yet. The entire team. Coaching staff. All of us will attack it with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind.”

You mentioned Wilton not being able to play this week if you had a game. Have you talked to him? How’s he doing? How has he taken the last couple of days?

“Very tough guy. I mean, he’s very hopeful to be back soon.”

What are your thoughts on night games? Do you have a preference for kickoff on home games?

“Yeah, I prefer they’re kicked off at 12 o’clock, 1 o’clock on a Saturday afternoon.”

Why is that?

“It most appeals to my football sensibility. Just a personal thought there. Definitely not Fridays, not Thursday, not Wednesdays, not Tuesday or Mondays or Sundays in college football. Saturday, prefer the 1 o’clock kickoff but understand that there’s 3:30 kickoffs, there’s 4 o’clock kickoffs, there’s 7:30 kickoffs, et cetera. We’ll get ourselves prepared.”

You mentioned adjustments after the game. You mentioned you guys did a lot more play-action stuff with John and it seemed to get him going. His overall vision, it looked like he knew where he was going with the ball right away. When you look back and watch the tape, what did you see from him overall and in the second half when things took off?

“Yeah, that was my impression coming out of the game was John was seeing things very well from the moment he went into the game and thought that that was the case the entire game. Very good with his mechanics. Rhythm was good. Seeing things very well.”

You talked about courage plays, too. He stepped into some throws. Did you see some of those out there?

“Yeah, he played a very good ballgame in all respects.”

How would you assess the O-line play? And some of the protections, how much of that was on the O-line and how much of it was on the backs when they had some breakdowns there?

“We—I’m not going to go into who had more breakdowns, but yeah, we got—there was few times we got beat. That’s something we’re gonna work on, as always.”

As you’ve kind of gone into the hit on Wilton, I think you said it was a soft-tissue injury over the weekend. Is that still the way you’re diagnosing it and what part of the body is he ailing in?

“Think back to two weeks ago. We had a similar press conference. I’ll refer you back to that answer at that time.”

You’ve talked a lot in the past about football as a bastion of toughness and manliness and you did again after this game. As you guys take the lead on improvements for visitors’ locker rooms, what message do you want to send to your players about how those two things might or might not be related, toughness and having sanitized locker rooms and having to fight through that versus creating an environment where that’s not necessary?

“Where it’s not necessary? I’m not following you. I’m not—fighting for our players and the other players, the student-athletes around the conference.”

You’ve talked a lot about toughness and how nothing makes you feel more like a man than going in an beating the elements. You have that view and you also want to create an environment for the visitors where they maybe don’t have to fight—

“Do you disagree?”

No, certainly not.

“I’m just saying there should be a minimum standard of care for the players for the health and safety.”

---the message is--

“The message is it’s a clear message: I think it’s on us as leaders, coaches, athletic directors, commissioners of conferences to address it, plain and simple.

[SID calls on person for last question]

“But I will say, as far as our players are concerned, turn on the film in the ballgame, there’s nothing that would suggest with their play that it was a hot day, you know? They played all out. They played fast. They played really physical, and I’d point especially to Chase Winovich, Rashan Gary, Mo Hurst, Devin Bush, a secondary that’s quietly doing a heck of a job with very little fanfare of self-promotion. Lavert Hill is playing extremely well. So is David Long. Tyree Kinnel as well; missed a tackle or two. Josh Metellus also playing very physical and doing a heck of a job.

“Chase Winovich—there’s some Rashan Gary plays that are…we talk about his athleticism and we talk about his speed; you’ve all mentioned that. Turn on play 17 and turn on a few other ones where it’s about as physical a play as you’re going to see from anyone on a football field. Chase is playing like JJ Watt. Thought he had his best game ever as a football player. There was a play, I don’t exactly know which play it was number-wise, but they had thrown the ball to the tight end and he was mauling us on the sideline; went through two or three tacklers. Chase had been on the rush of the quarterback, turned and went and made the tackle. Kept the tight end in the end zone or he would have gotten into the end zone. But the ground he covered to get there, first rushing the quarterback and then turning and making the tackle kept him out of the end zone. We ended up holding them to a field goal at that point. Really noteworthy.

“Mo Hurst is really, really tough to block. Quite impressive. So yes, they did overcome the elements. Both teams had to out on the field. Not conflating the two. Just—it was very impressive. When you turn on the film it did not look like a hot day the way our guys were hustling. Playing football.”

I just mean that it’s significant that you’re leading this effort given someone that has that view. At what point did you start to notice this gamesmanship, as you put it?

“I think some of you might have noticed the same thing. I think we all kind of noticed it together and at that point—”

Certainly, but you said you noticed it around the conference. Was it early on, as soon as you got here?

“No—at this point, I mean, are we good with this? I think we’ve plowed that question about as thoroughly as we can. Over the course of the time I’ve been here.”

The running backs have been very effective this season. How would you evaluate Jay Harbaugh’s job so far?

“I think our coaches, all of them, are doing an outstanding job, each and every one of them. I think Jay’s going a good job. Special teams, he and Chris are doing a spectacular job there. Thought we did  an excellent—did a very good job in this ballgame. Who won it or who lost it, it was pretty even.

“Nice to see Brad Robbins go in and have a competent game and really perform well as a first-time player. First time he’s seen the field. Thought that was great. Thought there was a lot of good.

“As long as Don Brown’s good, I’m good. You wanna know what my happiness is or my mood is like? Don Brown’s mood’s good, I’m good. More Don Brown!”

On Tarik [Black], is there any update on whether he could return this season?

“Not quite yet, yeah. It’s gonna be a process. See how things heal. Cracks, fractures heal. Not a medical doctor but I know it takes some time. Gets sticky and…”

Just didn’t know if after surgery—

“Yeah, you Google stuff like that, bones, how long does it take—”

[The room laughs]

“I’d refer you to that.”

To Google? Or WebMD?

“Yeah, to a medical doctor. Yeah. Certified, board-certified, trained medical doctor, which is not me.”

Comments

Red is Blue

September 25th, 2017 at 6:52 PM ^

Why not allow the visitors to choose which locker room they want unless the home team documents to the league that the visitors locker room is above some standard or is at least better than the home locker room.

triangle_M

September 25th, 2017 at 7:17 PM ^

Some valid points where it looks like someone at Michigan dropped the ball. Also, some bullshit hedging.  For the record the indignation coming out of West Lafeyette is insane. 

 

 

Purdue regards the welfare of all student-athletes as its No. 1 priority. We would fully support a conversation regarding a conference-wide set of guidelines for visiting football team accommodations because we have experienced less-than-ideal conditions on the road. There IS no place for gamesmanship when it comes to player care and safety.
The after-the-fact concerns expressed by Michigan are somewhat surprising because a member of its football staff conducted a walk-thru of our facilities with our athletics department staff at Ross-Ade Stadium on July 18.
Furthermore, to help teams prepare in advance, our visiting team manual highlights in bold type "there is no air conditioning in the (visiting) locker room," with accompanying Purdue Athletics staff contact information about how to request preferred temporary accommodations. We did not receive any such request. Basic x-ray is available within our athletic footprint and more-sophisticated capabilities are located two blocks away, similar to the arrangements at many other schools.
Our sports medicine staff members, in fact, have received numerous compliments from their Michigan counterparts regarding the care they received at Purdue.

 

UMForLife

September 25th, 2017 at 7:25 PM ^

Nice. So, we should have come prepared with air conditioners or big ass fan. It is the basic decency that is lacking in these statements. So since there was no air conditioning we should have called off the game or ask for air conditioning? If Michigan would have said that the AD would have provided it? What a jerk

Mr. Yost

September 25th, 2017 at 8:26 PM ^

They could put a mini split in there so easily. Not the perfect solution, but it would do.

You can also just BUY a portable air condition as long as you can punch a hole in the wall for the hot air to go out. We have it in one of our spaces. In the wall is a screw in plug about 8" in diameter. Twist the plug out and it's just a hole in the wall to the outside. Shove the exhaust in the hole, plug the unit in, and boom. Cold air.

Mr. Yost

September 25th, 2017 at 8:21 PM ^

I call bullshit.

1. The football staff walking through your facilities doesn't mean they saw your visiting team locker room. Why would you show that off on a tour of your facilities? I've seen stadiums across the country...rarely do I ever walk through a visiting team locker room. Besides, they could literally be looking at anything. And if they DID see the locker room, it would be fair to assume that you all (Purdue) would provide better accomodations during the season that aren't set up in the middle of the fucking SUMMER!

2. Every school sends out a visiting team guide at the beginning of every year (for every sport) and everyone knows you use it as a "backup" in case you need a map to the stadium, a contact number, a restuarant for team meals, etc.

But even if you did list it in there...did you list the size of the space? Did you provide fans? Did you mention that it would be 20 degrees warmer in the locker room than it was outside? Fuck you and your bold type.

3. It is common practice that you might mess with a team (i.e. pink walls), but you don't EVER do anything that could affect student-athlete welfare.

There should've been lockers (not wood fancy ones, standard boring metal lockers), lighting, restroom facilities, space, taping tables, reasonable minimum accomodations...and if you cannot provide that space this it's on YOU as the host institution to provide an alternative.

At my school we don't have locker rooms for soccer anywhere near the field. WE rent tents, fans, lights and set it up so they have a place to go at halftime and don't have to run across the street and run back. That's on US. I would never expect someone to bring their own tent. That's nuts.

This Purdue AD needs to some making excuses and start finding SOLUTIONS. I guarantee if I saw that locker room for 10 minutes I would have a list of solutions they could come up with until they could build better facilities. Step 1, if you have facility limitations, as the host institution it's common practice that YOU disclose those limitations and offer solutions. If Michigan doesn't like them? Hey, that's their problem - you tried.

Esterhaus

September 25th, 2017 at 6:56 PM ^

Than visiting B1G football teams who collectively generate the most revenue per sport for their conference, you have to call out the conditions and improve them. The money is there for improvements across the board, and the nasty decision-making should be charged to the universities responsible for the offering third world-level  facilities.

Michigan team managers should take photographs and videos of every substandard visiting locker room facility where they play and then publish them after the contest. Votes should be taken of all B1G visiting facilities.

Raise awareness and pressure the offenders.

jamesjosephharbaugh

September 25th, 2017 at 7:35 PM ^

What kind of injuries heal in 14 days that definitively don't heal in 7?  If it's Monday and we already know Wilton definitely wouldn't be able to play this coming Saturday, seems like the chances are low that he'll be playing NEXT Saturday. 

I'm no expert, but Harbaugh's statement on that one seemed like an admission that it's more than a little pulled muscle - especially when you add his comments that the hit was egregious.

I could always be wrong but it sounds to me like O'Korn is starting for MSU.

Harbaugh referred to the presser from 2 weeks ago.  I looked it up and this is when he said it's not fair to be broadcasting student athletes' injury details to the world so don't ask for details.

calgoblue81

September 25th, 2017 at 7:33 PM ^

FWIW, Kirk Herbsteit agreed with Harbaugh, and as to Purdue’s response about not requesting air conditioning, common sense would tell you air conditioning should be provided without asking if the temperature is in the 90s with high humidity - wiithout the need to ask.

Red is Blue

September 25th, 2017 at 7:59 PM ^

One solution would be for the B1G to require each school to provide minimal facilities (space, plumbing, HVAC, medical equipment...) from each school with the B1G league being responsible for the condition of each visiting locker room on game day.

stephenrjking

September 25th, 2017 at 8:22 PM ^

I think that it's not necessary to involve B1G administration too directly. This is a voluntary association of schools, they can meet reasonable standards. And with the cash coming in, they can afford to. Harbaugh isn't demanding a palace here. Just a reasonable amount of space, sanitary facilities, privacy, a decent training table, and temperatures that don't endanger the health of the players. It doesn't have to cost a lot of money.

You Only Live Twice

September 25th, 2017 at 8:05 PM ^

Harbaugh stating that the facilities appeared basically unimproved since the 80s is a statement that can't be ignored.  From the comments on the other thread, I'm getting the impression that the Purdue AD isn't one to let go of a nickle very easily. It's time to write some checks and modernize.  Also, it's not an excuse to say well we told you back in July that there's no AC.  It's not likely to be a safety concern with normal fall temperatures.  Maybe Purdue's AD and staff can turn on the weather channel.  When you know damn well it's going to be in the 90s and humid you can't sit in your own air conditioned rooms and let visitors swelter.

Also, whoever said (some media person) that "no one went to the hospital" is really ignorant on safety matters.  Players have died of heatstroke - did someone have to go to the hospital, in order to demonstrate the dangers to idiot reporters?

Dierdorf was saying on the radio that the locker room was hotter than being outside. The shade provided no relief due to the poor air circulation.  I can't believe no one from Purdue reached out to Michigan and said, with these forecast temps we will provide such and such accommodation, or bring in a portable a/c unit - Something!

 

 

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dipshit moron

September 25th, 2017 at 9:50 PM ^

this is all michigans fault. if it was so important they should have brought cooling equipment with them. this is just harbaugh and michigan whining and crying. after all no one else has ever complained so , " whats the problem". nothing to see here, move along.

Happy Gilmore

September 25th, 2017 at 10:20 PM ^

Fluoro is short for fluoroscopy, which is a term that refers to using an X-ray machine to obtain images. Saying "fluoro X-ray" is redundant and, frankly, stupid. It's plausible that the context was someone saying "we can do fluoro...errr...X-ray", correcting him/herself after realizing that the public wouldn't understand the term.

DonBrownSoda

September 25th, 2017 at 11:36 PM ^

He's a football coach, not a radiologist or X-ray tech. Not all X-ray machines can provide fluoroscopy but who cares? They probably have a big mobile C-arm that they use for the convenience. And I love fluoro - so versatile to get the right angle on hands/wrists/ankles/feet and you can evaluate joint spaces to identify ligament tears.

Zeke21

September 25th, 2017 at 9:37 PM ^

the BTN provides, There is NO excuse for locker room and medical facilities to be inferior in the big ten.  Coach tells it like it is.

Matte Kudasai

September 26th, 2017 at 7:45 AM ^

I think Coach is doing a great service by bringing up and perhaps leading the way on this locker room issue.  He's right, enough is enough with the gamesmanship, there should be a standard and a high one at that for visiting locker rooms in this day and age.

I also think he's made an effort to deal with stupid questions lol...poor guy, some of these questions are downright painful.

mgobaran

September 26th, 2017 at 8:48 AM ^

What reporter is questioning Jim Harbaughs manhood for thinking its important to have a few more toilets? What the heck was that?

"You said you want your team to overcome the elements, but then want access to band aids? What's up with that Jim?"

ToledoBlue

September 26th, 2017 at 10:22 AM ^

I wonder what if any the psyche effect is for an incredible visiting locker room. I mean absolutely beyond first class by all standards. Would that screw with a team more? I can just imagine players walking into an amazingly comfortable room with all ammenities and being relaxed along with some jealousy of how nice the home locker room must be....