A couple of questions about Les Miles
Also, can anyone speak to the rumors regarding the negative stuff that supposedly went down with Miles when he was on the coaching staff here? I'm sure we've all heard those stories by now, but I don't know how much of that is grounded in fact and how much is just some made up BS that got started on an internet forum somewhere.
January 7th, 2011 at 1:59 PM ^
to submarine his chance last go round. Different story now. Stay tuned.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:11 PM ^
Doesn't he have a $10 million buyout. Didn't he cut a kid, Elliot Porter I believe, after the kid had been on campus roughly two weeks. Didn't he also cut a kid with a form letter.
If this is what we are looking for in a coach we might as well go after Saban.
January 7th, 2011 at 3:26 PM ^
Someone posted his contract earlier, it's $1.5M.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:00 PM ^
I don't believe we ever contacted Miles, for any purpose, in 2007.
As for the rumors, there's no way of confirming anything. All we know for certain is that he and Carr do not like each other at all. Whether Brandon shares Carr's disdain for Miles is not known.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:03 PM ^
We didn't. He tried contacting us, but Martin was on a boat, a mother f-ing boat. This is according to Bacon and his book he will release in the fall.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:06 PM ^
Did he f*ck a mermaid?
January 7th, 2011 at 2:13 PM ^
but he definitely had flippy floppies.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:16 PM ^
i know for a fact that he was doing flips and shit
January 7th, 2011 at 2:23 PM ^
I was disappointed he didn't take Jorma Taccone.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:32 PM ^
the camera man....no wonder he was gone for a while...
January 7th, 2011 at 2:38 PM ^
Well, at least one member of the Michigan fanbase just became much more understanding.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:48 PM ^
so, so much. Thank you.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:48 PM ^
I've already seen this a couple times, but I'm thinking it's in my top 5 favorite youtube videos.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:35 PM ^
In his nautical themed pashmina afghan.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:07 PM ^
I know the story. It's not that Martin intended to call him and happened to be sailing - he had zero intention of ever contacting him.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:11 PM ^
Bacon seems like a nice guy who knows the program. But I think he's a little too close to it. His work is more nostalgia-based. He's a homer.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:14 PM ^
exactly what someone who writes books about Michigan and its traditions should be....
Why is this bad?
January 7th, 2011 at 2:33 PM ^
I've got nothing against nostalgia-based, ie the Bo book. My point is that I wouldn't count on Bacon to provide the most objective or definitive reporting re something controversial, like the Miles situation. Bacon tends to tow the company line. Which makes for pleasant reads, but not terribly definitive ones.
January 7th, 2011 at 3:27 PM ^
It's toe the line, not tow it. The idea is that you make sure to keep your toes behind the line (so you don't cross it).
January 7th, 2011 at 2:03 PM ^
Note: This post ignores the negative things about Miles that have been tossed around, e.g., politics, oversigning, etc.
Just because there is no where else to post this - I don't see Miles' age as a detriment in this situation. Miles can recruit like crazy, and its doubtful he'd be looking to coach until they bring him out feet-first like JoePa. Lets assume he effectively has a 5-8 year lifespan as a head coach - that is plenty of time to stock the cupboard with a huge amount of talent, then run a proper search brilliant young gameday coach, who can start everything off on the right foot and has to maintain rather than rebuild. In the meantime, Miles is underrated as a coach himself - you can't luck your way into multiple 10 win seasons in the SEC. Since it seems like we won't be getting the total package in a coach right now unless Harbaugh has a change of heart or Patterson is on the way, I don't see this situation as that big of a negative.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:27 PM ^
Having a successful SEC coach plus Denard will equal pants crapped in fear from 11 other schools in the midwest.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:36 PM ^
Unintentionally negged this -- and here is it back to you.
Valid points
January 7th, 2011 at 2:45 PM ^
I agree with this sentiment. He isn't Larry Coker who took over a talented, experienced team and then steadily backslid. Les Miles has 4 seasons of 10+ wins, and it could be 4 seasons of 11+ wins if they win tonight, with LSU not looking to be slowing down anytime soon. Plenty of coaches would have done far worse. And if Ryan Perriloux hadn't been such an idiot, leading to their awful QB situations the last three seasons, his record probably would look as shiny today as it did three years ago, despite the clock management issues, eating of the grass, and everything else that makes him appear incompetent.
I'd almost be willing to give him a pass on some of the ethical problems, being that he competes in the SEC. Almost, but not quite. I'll just make it a negative against him, something that unfortunately, all serious candidates will have.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:07 PM ^
Let's assume those rumors are true, and that sometime during the Mo era Les Miles slept with another coach's wife. Should we really hold it against him 15-20 years later?
I wonder how much of the anti-Miles sentiment stems from sour grapes based on the erroneous assumption he turned down the Michigan job (or worse, used it to get more money from LSU).
January 7th, 2011 at 2:10 PM ^
If Moeller's wife be fine you can't blame him. Still, Moeller probably rocks the beer goggles so this remains doubtful. Also, I've heard Miles's own wife is a wildabeast, so this must also be taken into consideration.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:51 PM ^
But, if Gary's wife is the same age as him(no guarantee), she is 12 years older than Les. If the story happened around the time of Moeller's firing, we're talking about a 43 year old Miles having sex with a 55 year old Mrs. Moeller.
Unless Les Miles is a really sick fuck, this does not compute.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:11 PM ^
Yes we should.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:25 PM ^
I disagree. Personal issues one coach has with another should not be elevated to a program-level dispute. Don't let's punish the program for Miles' twenty year old sins.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:26 PM ^
But we're not going to hold some of JH's mistakes against him?
We're hiring football coaches, they don't have to have been perfect men their whole lives.
January 7th, 2011 at 3:30 PM ^
I think the issue with Miles is not so much over things that may or may not have happened 15 years ago, but over him allegedly telling recruits confidential information about Carr's health around 2006.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:08 PM ^
Gordon Bombay will be Michigan's next HC. Charlie Conway at QB, Goldberg at C, Luis Mendoza at WR, The bash brothers at DE, Adam Banks at RB provided his wrist is healthy
January 7th, 2011 at 2:35 PM ^
Adam Banks = Brandon Minor? Who knew.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:08 PM ^
Les Miles pees on people. That's what he likes.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:14 PM ^
Just keep trying different jokes until one works, Purple.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:21 PM ^
Otherwise I'm calling Les to come and pee on you. Believe me, that shit is not fun.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:15 PM ^
yeah, while he drinks cris, you drink piss.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:12 PM ^
You're just making this up.
I think you are referring to when Les Miles "met with administration from his former school so he could give them advice on their coaching search" (wink wink, nudge nudge). Which is about as true as when Rich Rodriguez was meeting with a "financial adviser" in Toledo, OH. If you didn't get it yet, they were re-offering him the job and he was re-turning-them-down.
This does not equal Les Miles suggesting Rich Rodriguez.
January 7th, 2011 at 3:32 PM ^
I'm afraid you're not getting it either. No meeting ever happened between Miles and Michigan, period. If we had ever offered him the job, he'd be here.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:17 PM ^
Terry Foster just filed a report with the title "Michigan loyalists split again - between candidates Brady Hoke and Les Miles." I feel wronged. What about those of us that desperately hope that neither are hired? I want to feel a part of something, dammit!
January 7th, 2011 at 2:27 PM ^
Well, you're part of the "over-10,000 pts club" on MGoBlog!!!! /jk
January 7th, 2011 at 2:37 PM ^
January 7th, 2011 at 2:17 PM ^
Les Miles is just as much of a risk as Rich Rod was...
January 7th, 2011 at 2:20 PM ^
Never mind the rumors, check out the damning "Outside the Lines" segment on the oversigning of recruits that Les Miles has engaged in at LSU. As a proud Michigan alum, I'd like to believe that such practices alone would exclude him from being a serious candidate for Michigan's coach (or of being a representative of the university in any form).
If you haven't seen the segment, go to:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/index
and click on "Over The Limit."
January 7th, 2011 at 2:23 PM ^
I wonder how Les Miles, while coaching a program of comparable prominence, would do against Ohio State in a big-game scenario. That might be worth considering, right? If only we had a data point from, say, the last three years or so.
January 7th, 2011 at 2:42 PM ^
There seems to be a lot of Les Miles downgrading but couldn't we say the same things about MANY coaches in big time D I football? Gasp! Even Jim Tressel who the MSM thinks is pure as the driven snow. Maybe we need to "broaden our horizons" and look at a winner who thrives in a cut throat conference even though he is grass eating crazy.
Or maybe I need to quit drinking at noon...
January 7th, 2011 at 2:23 PM ^
I'm cryin' at Dave Chappelle right now. Can we get that as a halftime show next season?
January 7th, 2011 at 2:27 PM ^
If someone told you Les Miles could get a team together to beat ohio state as early as next season, would you want to hire him then?
January 7th, 2011 at 2:30 PM ^
I hear his record against OSU is pretty good.