Annarbor.com- Demens and BooBoo sued for $10,000 in back rent
Ugh. I HOPE it is simply a misunderstanding. Ignore Lee's headline that add's an extra 0, as it is only $10k not $100k.
Not to be a rumor monger, but maybe this has something to do with the PT issue?
October 22nd, 2010 at 6:50 AM ^
Where in hell is a college kid going to come up with 10K all in one chunk? You know Booboo ain't gonna be paying his share, so Demens is on the spot.
October 22nd, 2010 at 6:58 AM ^
Need more details.
When you sign those leases it is worded that each signee is individually responsible for all the rent should another signee die, disappear, go batshit crazy and assault pizza delivery men, etc.
I HOPE it is just the fact that when Boubicar was thrown off the team and lost his scholarship, he also lost his rent stipend, and Demen's stipend wasn't enough to cover Boubicar's half.
Hopefully parents/guardians can cover this. Otherwise Kenny is screwed. That's the problem with co-signing contracts with people you're not 100% sure you can trust.
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:36 AM ^
They each would have been on the hook for $10,020 over the course of the year.
Not trying to put it all on BooBoo, but if he got tossed on the team in September, that would be $6,800 right there. And his track record indicates he may not have been the best tenant beforehand.
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:25 AM ^
If you look at this link, it appears the total rent due for the 2 players was $850, so I agree that Demens should only be accountable for half of that, assuming the lease was set up the way it is for most students.
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:32 AM ^
Having spent the last 3 years leasing in the Ann Arbor housing market, I dont know where on central campus 2 tenants would have to find a 2 bedroom for $850. It would have to be a real dive, and I just can't see two division 1 athletes, having a stipend to cover their rent, settling for. Paying $850/month each would seem much more reasonable for a 2 bedroom house or apartment.
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:35 AM ^
Well did you look at the floorplan rates? That place doesn't appear to have $1700/month units. And it's not on central campus FYI.
October 22nd, 2010 at 9:03 AM ^
$1700 for an on campus 2 bedroom is reasonable? I've been out for about 5 years, but damn, I thought all of the new apartment buildlings going up were supposed to help solve the ballooning rent problem. I haven't been on another campus (other than in a large city) that pays as much for shitty housing like we did in Ann Arbor.
For Demens, Student Legal Services will be his best friend for awhile. Hopefully he gets a good settlement.
October 22nd, 2010 at 9:13 AM ^
October 22nd, 2010 at 9:29 AM ^
Jimmy McMillan, who is on the "Rent is Too Damn High" ticket, is an actual candidate and he went off on a wonderful soliloquy during the NY Gov debate last week (where every party, no matter how small, gets a place on the stage). Then, through the wonders of the Internet, someone mixed his actual words into a scene from the movie "Up." If you like well-spoken crazy, enjoy! Maybe he can represent BooBoo in civil court.
October 22nd, 2010 at 10:45 AM ^
This post is plus one gazillion points.
October 22nd, 2010 at 9:14 AM ^
In 2001, Me and my 3 room-mates paid $1700/month for a 2 bedroom apt on Wastenaw Ct. on Central Campus.
Rent is CRAZY expensive.
October 22nd, 2010 at 9:59 AM ^
I haven't paid rent in ann arbor since 200 but I had a two bedroom in U towers that was 900, which seemed a bit steep at the time, but 1700 is crazy insane. Though you want to talk about high rent i live in nyc now, boom.
October 22nd, 2010 at 10:15 AM ^
BC or AD? What was rent, 20 berries and a beaver pelt?
October 22nd, 2010 at 11:52 AM ^
Did you not mean wolverine pelt?
October 23rd, 2010 at 9:06 AM ^
Wolverines never die, nor can they be killed. You know this.
October 22nd, 2010 at 10:08 AM ^
Double post.
October 22nd, 2010 at 9:29 AM ^
WW already provided the link to HVC's website; my brother lived down there (off State, just north of Eisenhower) for about 6 months and I assure you that it would be reasonable to find a 2-br apartment for $850 there.
I'm wondering whether this news is related to any spitefulness or misunderstanding related to the recent bankruptcy/foreclosure/change of management that the Hidden Valley Club apartments went through in the last year or so.
I guess I'm also wondering why this didn't come up any number of months ago, instead of right now when Demens has finally seen some meaningful playing time and earned himself a spot on the field. If the suit wasn't filed until September 27, that rent had been piling up for a long time. HVC knows that college players don't get to renegotiate any contracts in the middle of the season, right?
October 22nd, 2010 at 9:36 AM ^
I guess I'm also wondering why this didn't come up any number of months ago, instead of right now when Demens has finally seen some meaningful playing time and earned himself a spot on the field. If the suit wasn't filed until September 27, that rent had been piling up for a long time. HVC knows that college players don't get to renegotiate any contracts in the middle of the season, right?
i believe you hit the nail on the head sir!
October 22nd, 2010 at 1:11 PM ^
Bobo was living in Ypsi when he was arrested last year so I assume that was where the apartment was.
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:02 AM ^
I don't understand how this happens with the stipend system. Did Boo Boo and Demens just choose not to pay rent for a whole year? Was there something more important to spend their free money on?
Offhand, this doesn't look good - pretty sure the NCAA would not approve any sort of loan to Demens or anything like that.
Best case scenario is that the apartment complex really didn't hold up its end of the bargain, and this case either gets settled or drags out for a couple years.
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:23 AM ^
How long before they're identified as members of "RICHROD'S *FIRST* RECRUITING CLASS (!!!)?"
He'll get blamed for this somehow; it's just a matter of details.
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:30 AM ^
Stuff like this NEVER happens at Ohio State, if you get what I"m sayin .
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:36 AM ^
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:37 AM ^
If you are a scholarship football player at Michigan, I bet some landlords would be willing to look the other way.
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:44 AM ^
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:39 AM ^
as the owner of a rental property, I would never let someone get that far behind. Maybe a month or 2, but by 3 months in even for a UM football player you gotta start taking action.
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:45 AM ^
It's likely owned by a corporation (it's one of those townhouse/ apartment complexes that looks like houses).
Also, what's the worst that can happen? He'll get a free lawyer from student legal services and have a ruined credit rating, unless he pays it off.
I guess he can always move back to the dorms!
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:52 AM ^
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:24 AM ^
Kenny probably thinks it is the end of the world right now, but in the grand scheme...who doesn't have bad credit coming out of college? Worst case scenario they put him/his parents on a payment plan and they pay what they owe over time. If they kicked Demens off the team for reasons of poverty, now THAT would be a pretty good lawsuit...
October 22nd, 2010 at 9:41 AM ^
this being a civil suit, i'd be surprised if kenny felt any reprecussions from the team, at least not as severe as the banhammer. and your worst case scenario is most like what'll happen. the court can't possibly expect a college kid to come up with $10k out of now-where. plus he could declare bankruptcy after the judgement and owe little if anything on it.
October 22nd, 2010 at 11:06 AM ^
Exactly. Demens could (should?) file Chapter 7 bankruptcy since I doubt he as a college student has any significant property. Not that I'm advocating that people do not pay their debts, but Demens would be able to get this behind him pretty quickly.
October 22nd, 2010 at 10:06 AM ^
a couple of things stand out to me. One, the way Ohio law is interpreted, typically you cannot evict (although you can sue for back rent) if you let a tenant continually not pay their rent, so I also wonder how a landlord could let something like that kind of debt rack up. Two, I ran into a situation once where one roommate was writing rent checks to the other roommate, but the other roommate was not paying the landlord. The first roommate had no idea he was behind on the rent until he came home to a notice from the sherrif that he was being evicted. Obviously I have no idea if this is the case here but it is not out of the realm of possibility a similar situation may have transpired here
October 22nd, 2010 at 10:24 AM ^
Given BooBoo's history, scenario number two would not be out of the realm of possibility. However, also given his history, I don't think I would be giving my rent check to him.
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:52 AM ^
After reading The UFR last night I thought "Watch something bad happen with him" because that is just the way it has been for us the last 2.5 years...I cannot believe that this comes out the next day..so typical. It's just like food for the haters - here we go....
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:02 AM ^
Dude did go to Country Day, so it's possible his parents can pay this off or hire a lawyer. Oak Park ain't exactly Pahokee.
October 22nd, 2010 at 10:24 AM ^
Do they not give sports scholarships?
October 22nd, 2010 at 6:53 PM ^
My understanding is that they do not, which is why the basketball team no longer has the likes of Webber and Battier. But regardless, Kenny's from Oak Park, so the odds of his parents having at least a bit of scratch are pretty good.
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:24 AM ^
That made my morning.
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:22 AM ^
This same thing happened to me when I was a student and all five of my roomates either dropped out or transfered to community college over the summer leaving me with a 6-person house and no roommates. I ended up settling with the landlord for my portion of the back rent and then they went after each person individually for their share.
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:30 AM ^
Angry Michigan Hating... Landlord?
Didn't really think this one would ever come up.
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:32 AM ^
I blame Brian Cook.
Every time that hippie punk opens his mouth.........
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:36 AM ^
that didn't turn to a huge problem? What a toxic person.
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:36 AM ^
Well now we know why he was robbing those delivery boys!
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 AM ^
Well he touch the secondary.....oh! I see what you mean.
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:54 AM ^
If they owe all 12 months that would mean there was no first month's rent or security deposit upfront? Not like any lease I ever signed. The landlord has to explain that part. Hard to say much without seeing the documents.
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:54 AM ^
this have to do with his playing time?
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:55 AM ^
Could we start a collection to pay his back rent or is that illegal? I feel like it's probably illegal. But if not let me be the first one to say I'd contribute $25 - $50 to help him out as long as he keeps plugging the god damn running lanes.
Okay, now that I've gone back and read that I'm am almost asured that can't be legal.
Dear NCAA, if you are reading this I just was talking about Chris Norman not Kenny Demens. I get my Big 10 linebackers messed up.
October 22nd, 2010 at 9:35 AM ^
Maybe we could just get him some kind of a gig at a local car dealership, where he gets paid a couple thousand a week without actually having to do any work. Wait ... that doesn't sound quite right ...
Maybe we could see if there's someone with connections to the NFL who could loan him some money, with the understanding that he or some of his teammates would be open to a future business relationship with said benefactor after graduation ... nope, something feels wrong here too ...
Maybe Demens, who's pretty fit and everything, could just put an ad up on Craigslist and charge money for the privilege of his company for the night?
Any NCAA gurus in here who could tell me whether any of this might be kosher?