Not of the bench press, but since you asked nicely.
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Long arms aren't necessarily good if you are not a lineman
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That rat is really just hitting his triceps. That's more of a modified skullcrusher than a bench press.
At least that rat is out there trying. More than I can say for you.
...he is still just a rat trying to do the bench press" doesn't have quite the same ring to it.
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I don't think it's a big deal when they don't do a lot, but I don't know that I agree with the long arm theory. I think teams fall in love with players at the combine, instead of looking at a players tape, but if you know the combine is coming and a receiver or DB does more reps than a lineman, I think it looks bad. I don't know that anyone has fallen in the draft because of it. Lineman tend to prepare for the combine working on their quickness and agility, and being stiff in the upper body effects that, so the bench press suffers a little.
if they knew the combine was coming they would perhaps train and prepare for it?! The right trainer can grow or shrink arm length by at least an inch....
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While the bench press is helpful, I think that more explosive olympic style lifts might actually be better. Additionally, the supplemental work on the triceps and front delts along with leg workouts are more important than simply the bench alone.
Depends on what you mean by "supplemental". If you're talking about isolation work for triceps and delts, nobody in the history of humanity has ever gotten strong doing this. You get strong at pushing things by pushing heavy weight. You might see some strong dudes doing isolation stuff, but they're either shoring up weak points or trying to get sexier. They got strong in the first place by pushing heavy weight.
I'm not talking about isolation excercises for the triceps and delts. I'm talking about heavy lifts: military press, squats, deadlifts and bench along with olympic style lifts: pull, press, jerk, snatch and front squat. Skullcrushers are pointless except for bodybuilding. Narrow grip bench hits both the triceps and pectorals with an emphasis on the triceps. I just know of so many guys who care too much about the bench press without supplementing it with other equally, if not more, important lifts. You can significantly increase your bench by squatting, deadlifting and pressing more frequently.
Are you still talking about the rat?
How does squatting improve your bench press? (I ask as someone who loves to squat, I just don't see the connection)
My max? I haven't done a 1RM in awhile, but it's probably around 280-290 lbs. I generally hit bench, squats, deadlift and military press twice a week. For bench, the first weekly workout is low reps (4-6) of 4-5 sets of heavier weight (255 lbs) and the second time is higher reps (8-10) of 4 sets of lighter weight (225 lbs).
All squat variations will always be the most important lifts for football training, maybe for any sport. But the bench press is far from a useless workout for DL as the commenter above suggested. In terms of play-to-play functionality it is one of the most important. Yes, all power starts in the legs and with leverage so those muscles are priority one. No, supplemental tricep workouts are not more important. You can get bulging triceps for the ladies from doing skulls or extensions, but functional tricep strength for locking your defender out comes directly from pressing things from your chest.
Perhaps I shouldn't have used "supplemental" when I meant to supplement the bench with military press, squats and deadlifts. I don't do or recommend isolation exercises for triceps or biceps. Exercises that can help increase your 1RM (military press, squats, etc.) are the supplemental work to which I was referring.
I recall my son doing so many getting ready for football sason his entire body shook. I asked him why he concentrated so much on those and he said one of his coaches said it was one of the best lifts for football. Oc course, the bench has to be the best for upper body, and as you said, got to get those legs in to knock the hell out of people. That midsection through the thighs is where that comes from.
Isn't it more accurate to say short arms aren't a great thing for elite lineman? A worse bench press is just a result of long arms. You want them to have a good bench press despite that, relative to other long arm guys. If I have two guys with the same long arms (and everything else equal), give me the one with the better bench press.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers#year=2016&workout=BENCH_PRESS…
Top performers are all lineman. You are wrong.
Top performers are mostly interior lineman, so he's not wrong. Arm length is most frequently highlighted as a key trait for perimeter linemen--offensive tackles and DEs (which is why Mason Cole and Bredeson's ideal NFL positions are Guard or Center). For the interior guys, not so important. Your link actually proves his point about long arms adversely affecting BP numbers.
The most useful data I think we have is how the NFL Combine correlates to future NFL success. Interestingly enough, although The Combine in general does not correlate well to NFL success and the bench press is probably the worst of the bunch, the bench press does seem to correlate well to a few positions, particularly offensive guard and defensive tackle (and oddly enough cornerback).
I agree that your logic makes sense about long arms and how it impacts a good bencher. It's important to remember that correlation does not equal causation. Offensive guards and defensive tackles tend to be shorter and squater in stature which lends well to bench press biomechanics, whereas offensive tackles and defensive ends tend to be a little longer and leaner, which puts them at a biomechanical disadvantage in the bench press. Would a taller offensive guard or defensive tackle be better at football (and worse at benching as you suggest) with longer arms?...good question. You could probably look at height, weight, and maybe wingspan (if they measure it) and compare that to NFL success. I feel like "experts" most seem to suggest no as they prefer a player with a lower center of gravity, likely for run blocking and/or stuffing the run.
So, the bench press data may have some value as long as you put it in context.
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out why this guy wasn't one of the highest rated players in the northeast U.S. His tape, physical measureables, performance in games, everything points toward a player with BIG potential. I can't wait to see him as a Michigan player.
Hudson may be a great fit for Peppers Sam spot.
The bad news is the safety depth chart is crickets and tumbleweed.
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