Surprising Insights from Minnesota Rewatch

Submitted by Snazzy_McDazzy on October 26th, 2020 at 6:07 PM

Special thanks to jswavel34 for posting the link to the game since I didn't record it. As always, I am happy to defer to Brian if his film study differs from my own. But these were my takeaways after reexamining the film:

-Apologies to Michigan fans for bringing up a fear that has not previously been mentioned but I was not a happy camper after watching Ryan Hayes in pass protection. He does not anchor well at all and later in the game, he started overcompensating for this deficiency, which robbed him of much of his athleticism. I'm really hoping this is not a pure lack of strength issue. Perhaps Ed Warinner can help him tweak his technique moving forward to fix the problem.

-The defensive tackles were perfectly fine against the run. Instead, I saw Paige, McGrone and Hawkins make a lot of critical errors collectively.

-Another problem is that every single time Minnesota ran against one of our 3-3 defensive fronts, we got gashed. Every.... single.... time. And of course, there were a few times when Minnesota's scheme or their talented running back did something good that beat us to some degree. That was always destined to happen.

-Donovan Jeter has some technique issues. He plays too high much of the time and he doesn't always use his hands effectively. But make no mistake, he appears to have NFL level tools to work with. And given the fact that this was his first meaningful playing time, there's plenty of hope he'll improve as the season goes along.

-Chris Hinton did not wow in his limited snaps. Nevertheless, he too has NFL level tools and he's only a true sophomore. Let's hope and pray that he takes the leap we expect this season.

-Carlo Kemp seems to wear down during the course of games. That was obvious last season because he was playing out of position and far too many snaps. I guess what I'm saying is, it would behoove us to move him to a rotational role if Hinton and Jeter can show some improvement. They're clearly our best hope of fielding quality starters at DT.

RedRum

October 26th, 2020 at 7:05 PM ^

shows Milton's arm strength. I think Brain mentioned that there was an open guy on the post that should have gotten the pass earlier, but I was impressed he could zip in in like that. I think Milton has a high ceiling (captain obvious I know).

Go Blue

RedRum

October 26th, 2020 at 7:11 PM ^

Lastly, I was surprised at the lack of Covid threads Saturday and Sunday, INTO MONDAY! I thought we were about to make it three days.. but not so you guys... We got a much needed update. Sadly the thread is locked. In only there were other websites on earth besides MGBLOG for covid information. Like a nationally recognized organization with the first name John and last name Hopkins....but there isn't such a thing. How can I enjoy football with out constant reminders of a life threatening illness? It's not possible. Keep up the good work, guy! We probably need some Dilly Dilly responses while we are at it.

BroadneckBlue21

October 27th, 2020 at 8:35 AM ^

It's Johns, which leads me to believe you have never read closely up on it, considering you cannot start with the right name of a well known (especially now) university. Cry a little more about football threads in which football players are impacted by covid. 

Would you be the first to be surprised if there's an outbreak on the team? What would you do, then? Pout about people reporting facts, rather than come to terms with a pandemic. Cool. Must be nice to have that much privilege to pretend things aren't happening. 

Michiganfansince97

October 26th, 2020 at 6:16 PM ^

It was surprising really for me by the way that most of Bateman's catches came on short routes and Minnesota didn't really have that many deep completed passes. Of what I saw by the way.

greymarch

October 26th, 2020 at 6:19 PM ^

Good insights.

 

Definitely agree about the LBs being the major factor for the disappointing rush-D.  LBs lacked discipline.  Too often they tried to predict in advance where the running was heading, instead of staying patient, and watching where the ball actually is.

Gulogulo37

October 27th, 2020 at 3:02 AM ^

We'll see on the UFR but I kinda doubt this. Minnesota was fairly effective running, but they didn't have any particularly big gains, so it seems unlikely it was the LBs and safeties busting as the OP says.

From Michigan Monday, "If you’re looking for a worry spot, Michigan never tackled him in the backfield. He was held to no gain on just four of his 26 rushes." That's generally not a sign of the DL making plays.

Robbie Moore

October 27th, 2020 at 11:19 AM ^

Surprising? Have you been watching us the past two years? All of college football is moving toward Big 12 defense. For us the good news is, finally, we are starting to show some Big 12 offense. Don Brown will provide just enough defense that we can win a lot of 45-38 games. Just like Oklahoma. This is the best I've felt about an offense since Denard. Joe Milton can not run like Denard but Denard could not throw like Joe. 

Carpetbagger

October 26th, 2020 at 6:20 PM ^

I was a big fan of Hinton after OSU and Alabama but after my rewatch I was pretty disappointed in his play at Minnesota.

Mobility is down quite a bit. Not sure if he has a lower body injury or something else is the problem.

Also have no idea how Barrett didn't get Brian's first star. He was everywhere. Milton was decent, composed even, and fascinating upside given this was his first game, but it was more about potential that actual plays made this game.

drjaws

October 26th, 2020 at 6:29 PM ^

Not sure those insights, though accurate, are necessarily surprising.  We knew DT was a likely issue and OL was a bit of a question mark.  I was a tad surprised to see McGrone out of position so much.  Maybe trying to do too much make up for holes in DT / LB?  Thankfully he’s fast enough and talented enough to make up for it on many plays.

DCGrad

October 26th, 2020 at 6:43 PM ^

Brian's definition of a good DL seems to be the ability to occupy 2 blockers or defeat the double team.  I haven't re-watched the game, but idk if our guys did a lot of that.

TrueBlue2003

October 26th, 2020 at 6:43 PM ^

Watching live I thought a lot of the run issues were on the safeties and LBs that were supposed to be setting the edge (often Paige which was understandable). 

But the line got caved in with ease sometimes, which made it easier to bounce and I think that was an artifact of either 3 man lines or DTs unable to handle doubles.  Brown is having to ask lot of his second and third levels because of the interior line.

Hail to the Vi…

October 26th, 2020 at 6:43 PM ^

you sound fun at parties. Very interesting Michigan did not play an absolutely perfect football game against a top-25 opponent on the road to open the season.. who could have seen that coming?

Hayes, had a shaky first series and then settled in from what I could tell. He's young, but has some experience. Milton was sacked once, and Michigan ran for almost 9 yards a carry. The offense line, and Hayes, played just fine

Ibrahim is an excellent back, and Minnesota has a powerful interior line. They ran the ball well, and DT is going to need to develop over the season. That said we have a bunch of guys getting their first considerable game action in their careers. They will develop, and think they will hold up fine next week against MSU

Paige first off the bench behind Hill is a concern. Can't hold it against him as he is a true freshman. Would like to see Faustin rotate in if Hill needs to come out in the future. Looks like the coaches wanted to give him a shot, and he's not quite ready for prime time yet.

3-3-5, not a good formation on running downs. I still like that package for obvious passing downs. I am assuming they were using that as a way to defend the RPO's that Minnesota runs so frequently.

Hail to the Vi…

October 26th, 2020 at 8:12 PM ^

Agreed, personnel is part of the issue. Also, I think it typically leaves 2-rushing lanes open because you only have six players in the box. It's not totally obvious which one it is to the offense because you can disguise run blitzes and pressures pretty well in the 3-3-5, but if they pick the right gap you're going to get gashed.

mgobaran

October 27th, 2020 at 8:49 AM ^

3-3-5 against the run is all about surprising the OL with where the "4th DL" is coming from, so your blitzer gets free shot in backfield. That means all of your LBs need to be able to hold up at the point of attack. Sometimes your MIKE follows the WILL. Sometimes your MIKE follows the SAM. Sometimes the WILL/SAM follows the MIKE. etc. 

The problem with Don Brown's 3-3-5 after it was figured out, is that we ALWAYS use our SAM to be the lead blocker for the blitzer. The OL can easily identify where the 4th DL is and shift to protect against it. And now you're vastly undersized at the POA.