OT: Yahoo Report implicates Miles Bridges in Dirty Dealings with ASM Sports Agency
Looks as if Izzo will have to answer more uncomfortable questions at his press conferences. They go into detail that Miles Bridges Mom took $500 on some documents at the agency. This would make him ineligible immediately and probably would spell the end for Coach Izzo at MSU.
February 23rd, 2018 at 7:45 AM ^
This was money spent by an agent to lure potential clients. Brian Bowen got what $7000? That's opposed to the $100K he got for enrolling at Louisville.
These are the type of violations that get players ruled ineligible. Aside from vacating wins, I'm not seeing further penalties to schools and coaches. The exception would be when coaches were dumb enough to cooperate with the agents. Maybe coaches already involved with bagmen are dumb enough to get caught on tape with agents too.
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:01 AM ^
You sumarized this perfectly. Unless this is just "the tip of the iceberg" nobody's getting any real punishment for this. Some players might be ruled ineligible and some wins might get vacated but nobody's losing their job unless there's more coming.
One can hope.
February 23rd, 2018 at 10:01 AM ^
It is almost surely just the tip of the iceberg. The important issue is whether or not the rest of the iceberg is ever discovered. The NCAA's record of finding such icebergs is not exemplary.
February 23rd, 2018 at 11:48 AM ^
Not only do they not discover them, but in the odd instance that they collide with one and find themselves at the bottom of the sea, they would still announce that "all was well."
February 23rd, 2018 at 7:54 AM ^
February 23rd, 2018 at 1:53 PM ^
but what finally took down al capone...
February 23rd, 2018 at 7:56 AM ^
I just got a feeling the NCAA won't do shit about this. at least nothing near what is is due for these teams
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:01 AM ^
Compared to the other problems Michigan State is facing this seems minor but probably the one thing that will cost the program the most.
Izzo is thought to be a great coach but the end is just around the corner. When you cheat to get the top recruits and John Belein still beats you?
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:10 AM ^
whether its 10$ or 10,000...Illegal is Illegal AND the money to the parents amounts to BRIBERY....as far as MSU goes it will be lie and deny lie and deny lie and deny just like all the other stuff floating around MSU, IZZO and Dantonio and the NCAA will take 5 years to sort this out per usual
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:13 AM ^
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:17 AM ^
$500 is small chickens, but just as illegal as $50,000, so they should have just gave him $50,000.
February 23rd, 2018 at 6:07 PM ^
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:16 AM ^
This and - one has to assume - ever more damning allegations are what Izzo had to be thinking about when he appeared so shell-shocked a few weeks ago during the Nasser sentencing and ESPN stories. That sick look on his face had nothing to do with Nasser, Appling, Payne, or anything else related to sexual assault.
He must believe - rightly, I suspect - that as time passes, more media outlets will uncover more of these stories that implicate him, his coaches, and his program. He probably felt pretty comfortable keeping the NCAA at arms' length; the FBI is another animal entirely.
At this point, I'd have a hard time keeping food down or maintaining any control over my bowels and sphincter. I have to hand it to the guy; there have been no messy cleanups courtside so far. That's better than I could do.
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:14 AM ^
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:22 AM ^
MSU is strongly denying the "rape culture stuff" and the only thing in this report implicating them is a very small amount of money given to a players mom for dinner.
This board HAS to get past this obsession with hoping something bad is going to happen to MSU via ESPN/NCAA. Unless there's a lot more coming out than what was contained in this report MSU & Izzo are safe as houses.
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:28 AM ^
The FBI and DOJ do a remarkably good job of getting suspects to roll over on other suspects. No one wants to go to Federal Fuck Me In The Ass Prison; least of all, agents and other VIPs used to very cushy lifestyles. There is little doubt that ASM's people were already naming names among other shady firms - and the FBI will dutifully follow up.
It's really just a matter of time before the really big money payouts get uncovered.
February 23rd, 2018 at 9:51 AM ^
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February 23rd, 2018 at 1:57 PM ^
which of the 3 little pigs are izzo and dantonio?
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:49 AM ^
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:53 AM ^
He did it for the survivors even though he didn;t know about them beforehand allegedly. He had a feeling? I am not sure, but it is a tough week to say the least. Maybe Miles' mother was living in Tom's basement because we know Tom has no idea what happens down there or what the people living there do.
February 23rd, 2018 at 9:12 AM ^
says that Izzo has connections to the Dawkins family. They think that's a good thing, because it's an excuse for them to have lunch. A logical person sees that and thinks that having a connection to this guy is a bad, bad, bad look.
February 23rd, 2018 at 9:34 AM ^
But can you honestly say, after reading the article, looking at the list of payouts other schools made and coupling that with the NCAA's proud history of doing absolutely nothing unless forced to, that anything is seriously going to happen? Honestly - can you?
I'm not saying it was right but in the context of this report a lousy $500 to a kids mom is NOT going to bring down Thor's Hammer against MSU. I know virtually everybody here badly wants that to happen but it's just not going to happen.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news (again) to the board.
February 23rd, 2018 at 11:28 AM ^
Something will happen, maybe not as dramatic as coaches losing their jobs - I too doubt that will happen. Some wins will be vacated though.
What will change is the consequence free environment the cheating schools are used to operating in. A 500$ dinner or "loan" is almost beside the point. First, you know there are multiple agents out there, all competing.. and that's not even counting the bagmen. Second there will be a chilling effect going forward. Isn't that ultimately the goal of law enforcement? Would you be more likely to give/accept illegal benefits if you thought there was no consequence, everyone does it, NCAA doesn't care? Would you be less likely to do so, with the knowledge that now there's a possibiity that the FBI might be in your business?
February 23rd, 2018 at 11:33 AM ^
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:59 AM ^
February 23rd, 2018 at 10:00 AM ^
out of any one school when many are going to be in line for punishment at the same time for the same thing. If it did happen, Louisville is in danger because they were already on probation.
MSU could get hit if the Michigan AG investigation shows they were actively covering up crimes or corrupty influencing the legal process through the prosecutor's office. We can all speculate on the chances of that happening, but it would be enough to hit them with lack of institutional control by itself.
February 23rd, 2018 at 2:02 PM ^
depending on how big and widespread, i can see the ncaa granting amnesty to try and preserve basektball and its historical programs like kentucky, duke, unc, kansas, etc. then they will create a stronger preventative investigative branch (fake) saying they will come down hard on offenders in the future.
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:23 AM ^
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February 23rd, 2018 at 9:25 AM ^
The big news about MSU in this case is that someone loaned a recruit's family member $400 and bought her a dinner. There's no indication that anybody affiliated with the school or the basketball program, or even the recruit himself, had any idea about this transaction.
It doesn't matter how clean our coach, program, or its players are. I'm keeping my head low until the FBI tells us it's out of ammo.
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:36 AM ^
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February 23rd, 2018 at 9:39 AM ^
what, with 14 of your countrymen indicted last week......
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:53 AM ^
$500? lol.
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:55 AM ^
How much were the tats worth that got Tressel canned?
February 23rd, 2018 at 9:03 AM ^
True.
February 23rd, 2018 at 9:47 AM ^
February 23rd, 2018 at 11:30 AM ^
Tressell fell on his sword. My dad lives in Columbus and supposedly a lot more people in the AD knew what was going on (including people above Tressell in the AD department).
February 23rd, 2018 at 1:32 PM ^
A couple pairs of gold pants IIRC
February 23rd, 2018 at 9:12 AM ^
February 23rd, 2018 at 9:16 AM ^
It is the Bridges family being dumb for not asking for more if they only got $400. I suspect a lot more money to Miles and/or his family will be revealed.
Its not worth cheating if you can't cheat big.
February 23rd, 2018 at 9:23 AM ^
February 23rd, 2018 at 10:04 AM ^
no way it's the full findings of the investigation. The same author's previous story was about hall of fame coaches losing their jobs, 50 schools in trouble and more. This wouldn't be nearly enough to line up with that and it's very likely he had the same sources for both stories.
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:55 AM ^
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:58 AM ^
I remember a few years ago when Izzo whiffed on Jabari Parker and a few other targets and had to settle for )what were for him) some weird guys. Then, he comes back guns blazing in 2016 with Bridges, Langford, Winston and Ward. It was proclaimed by Izzo to be his best class ever. It seemed then that he must have come to some realization, that to compete with the big boys he was going to have to start playing a little (more) dirty. I think we are seeing the fruit of that now.
February 23rd, 2018 at 9:08 AM ^
Izzo did an interview and said at the end of a recruiting cycle that MSU "needs to change the way they recruit". Looks like MSU may joined the 1 and done pay for player party late and are not as good at hiding everything.
I heard UK just loads up prepaid Visa cards for players and leaves them in gym bags from my UK buddies. Sounds like that is the best way to go.
February 23rd, 2018 at 2:11 PM ^
he also lost him at the 11th hour