Mike Macdonald Gone

Submitted by DTOW on January 26th, 2022 at 1:51 PM

Per Balas.  Accepting the Ravens DC opening.  Dong punch.

Booted Blue in PA

January 26th, 2022 at 1:52 PM ^

Is he taking JH with him?

 

This seems crazy..... John recommends Jim hire him as DC.... a year later John hires him away.  "Thanks Jim, I guess he is up to the job.  Thanks for giving him a test run for me."

bhughes81

January 26th, 2022 at 3:17 PM ^

Name a good P5 school that has year in year out consistency at the coordinator positions. In college, if you're good, you're gone...if you're bad, you're fired. It's extremely rare to find a really good coordinator that stays more than a couple of years.. 1 year for MacDonald is pretty short, but he was gone after 2022 if he had another good season.

JHumich

January 26th, 2022 at 3:35 PM ^

It's on Jim to incorporate the best of every good coordinator and assistant that he gets, and build that into the next guy. Forge a coaching tree.

Saban loses great guys all the time. This is how to stay great as a program, and make each new guy great too.

JonnyHintz

January 27th, 2022 at 5:41 PM ^

Leonhard has been DC since 2017, but he’s probably an exception to the rule considering he’s from Wisconsin, grew up a Wisconsin fan, and played for Wisconsin. 
 

Kelly definitely went through his fair share of coordinators at ND:
 

Charley Molnar lasted 2 years as his OC, Chuck Martin lasted 2 also, Denbrock lasted 1, Sanford Jr lasted 2, Chip Long lasted 3, and Tommy Rees lasted 2 before Kelly left for LSU. 
 

Bob Diaco lasted 4 years at DC, Van Gorder was fired four games into his 3rd year, Elko lasted 1 year,  Lea lasted 3 and Freeman was DC for 1 year before taking over for Kelly when he left.

It’s definitely as rare as the OP insinuates. You’re only able to name a couple schools with any amount of sustained success and ability to maintain coordinator continuity. It’s rare. 

 

CMHCFB

January 26th, 2022 at 9:50 PM ^

2 years is a good minimum stay for a coordinator.   With rare exception, if they stay too much longer it’s because they aren’t able to generate interest for better positions.  Less than 2 years and it’s chaos.  When you’re hiring elite coordinators, you need to have a shortlist for who is going to replace them before they finish their first year. You you want coordinators who are highly coveted based on the results at your school

CMHCFB

January 26th, 2022 at 11:58 PM ^

Tom Herman, Jeff Hafley, Chris Ash, Luke Fickell etc    Meyer made new coordinators sign a 2 year agreement they needed to fulfill before leaving for a bigger job.  Recently Warriner was given the chance to take another job rather than be fired, but generally they are taking promotions.  A lucky few like LarryJohnson perform at a high leavel but stay.  Tony Alford is just waiting for the right offer.  If you are an elite coordinator, you generally leave in 2 to 3 years. Nobody has been better at replacing elite talent coordinator positions then Nick Saban.   

Twitch

January 26th, 2022 at 4:32 PM ^

Anybody know what Vic Fangio's buyout is?  Perhaps he can be brought in as an analyst, coach the coaches so to speak, not have to recruit on the road, live on a fat buyout, recharge his batteries for a year or so, and move on.  He and Harbaugh know each other well.  Yeah, yeah, I know, wishful thinking.

Leaders And Best

January 26th, 2022 at 2:31 PM ^

And how is making Elston the DC any different from hiring a DC from outside? Elston was not on the staff last year. If you hire internally, it should be someone who at least was on staff last year. If you are thinking about promoting Elston to DC, you might as well do a full search and find the best most qualified candidate (most likely not Elston).

rjc

January 26th, 2022 at 3:39 PM ^

Interesting. I think Jay will be a future head coach, maybe even at Michigan some day but there's another coach that almost exactly fits your description.  I'd place a call to CP. 

Same (or better) on field and recruiting resume as Jay, actual (co) DC experience in the SEC, and still pretty close to an internal hire.