DrMantisToboggan

July 23rd, 2018 at 1:06 PM ^

Man. I will never, ever fault a kid for wanting a Stanford degree. Just can't blame anyone there...but how many times did Herron deny that he was wavering in his commitment? Woof.

DrMantisToboggan

July 23rd, 2018 at 1:14 PM ^

Yeah. Also, I'm just not that worried. Herron was a good prospect, but not the elite one that his early rankings suggested. We have a bunch of good DL committed, we have Paye and Vilain at End already, and Herron taking a Stanford spot might move DiCosmo's needle more towards us. It's kind of an "oh well" to me.

wahooverine

July 23rd, 2018 at 1:45 PM ^

Is it not ironic that Harbaugh resurrected Stanford into the power program it is today and it is now the chief poacher of good Michigan commits?  A lot of these players probably don't know that Stanford used to suck and Harbaugh rebuilt it from the ground up.  It would've been nice if the Cardinal had imploded after he left like the Niners did.  [Shakes fist at David Shaw] Shawww!

evenyoubrutus

July 23rd, 2018 at 1:49 PM ^

Shaw is obviously a decent coach but I'm curious to see how they do in the coming years. His first 3 seasons were very good, but once the Har augh players were grandfathered out their success has dropped considerably. And a big part of that is due to the fact that the PAC 12 has been in a bit of a slump for half a decade or so.

evenyoubrutus

July 23rd, 2018 at 2:53 PM ^

That's why I said that I'm curious to see what happens. He was Harbaugh's protege and continued the program continuity. 

Also I find it interesting that Harbaugh also went 8-5 with arguably the youngest team in school history, and yet certain users here took that to mean he'd never win a national championship, never win a conference title, and never even won a division because of it. And he'd be lucky to ever have better than a .25 winning percentage against rivals. It's incredible what standards we hold Michigan to, yet we can't seem to apply it to other schools and coaches.

FatGuyTouchdown

July 23rd, 2018 at 4:03 PM ^

Not sure how either relates to the other. Shaw's 3rd year he won the Pac-12 with a brand new QB, a brand new RB, a new receiving corps and a young offensive line. He also beat peak Oregon, UCLA before they fell off, Notre Dame and a good Washington team. He didn't continue the program continuity, he upgraded it. It doesn't mean Shaw is a better coach than Harbaugh, but to say he continued what Harbaugh started does a severe disservice to the coaching job Shaw has done on his own merit. It would be similar to saying that Harbaugh only won in college because of Andrew Luck. 

FatGuyTouchdown

July 24th, 2018 at 1:04 PM ^

Hoke recruited significantly more blue chippers in his tenure than Harbaugh did at Stanford. Granted, part of it was what they had to work with to start, but Hoke's problem was never accumulating talent, but rather cultivating it. Also, in my opinion it's a lot harder to go from good to great as a program than it is to go from bad to good. Again, I'm not saying Shaw is better than Harbaugh, but it's time to stop looking at Stanford in it's current state as something that Harbaugh built, because it has Shaw's fingerprints all over it. 

Lakeyale13

July 23rd, 2018 at 2:33 PM ^

Yeah man, I totally get that 17-18 year old kids are gonna act like 17-18 year old kids, but why deny all the Stanford interest.  At least that is what i remember (I could be wrong) concerning his comments.  That he seemed fairly strong in saying that Stanford wasn't in the running anymore, etc.  Oh well, best of luck young man.  

EastCoast

July 23rd, 2018 at 1:09 PM ^

At least we've known about it for awhile.

Herron said several times that something would have to change for him to flip. That "something" was getting admitted apparently.

On to the next one.

njvictor

July 23rd, 2018 at 1:10 PM ^

Not shocked. Just kinda wished he would've been honest with press/fans about his recruiting instead of insisting he's solid in his commitment