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Bama's Gain Is... Michigan's Gain, Too?

Alabama picked up two commits on the offensive line at the end of July, and they're expected to add five-star OT Jedrick Wills any day now. That may not seem like news that would lead a Michigan recruiting roundup, but word from multiple Bama insiders is the numbers crunch in Tuscaloosa will have a direct impact on at least one top Michigan target. Here's 247's Steve Lorenz on four-star IMG OC Cesar Ruiz:

I spoke with Hank South, our Alabama insider this morning, who confirmed that Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy Top100 offensive lineman Cesar Ruiz is NOT a take for the Crimson Tide, and barring more than one change to their current class, would not be regardless

When that news made its way over to the Scout board, their Bama insider, John Garcia Jr., confirmed he was hearing the same about Ruiz and added that four-star NY OT Isaiah Wilson could also get squeezed out by Wills:

Bama took in state OL Hunter Brannon on July 23, a kid who earned the offer at camp (UA wanted Ruiz to camp but he didn't make it). Numbers are tight and tackles are a much bigger need at this time. I'm not even sure they would take both Wills and Wilson should each want to join the class. Like with Nico Collins, a late spot may not be there for Wilson. Things can change but Bama feels good about each, the difference is Wills is much closer to ending his recruitment.

Alabama has been considered Michigan's primary competition for both Ruiz and Wilson. Ruiz said at the beginning of this month that Alabama, Michigan, and Oklahoma were tied at the top of his list; only a few days later, the Sooners landed four-star center Creed Humphrey. If Ruiz sticks to those top schools, his decision may have been made for him—he's also mentioned North Carolina as a school of interest recently but I haven't seen any indication they'd beat out Michigan.

Wilson, meanwhile, set up official visits to Florida State (Nov. 11), Michigan (Nov. 19), and Alabama (Nov. 25), with dates for Georgia and USC to be decided based on his basketball schedule—we'll see if those latter two materialize, as Wilson plans to make a decison in December. In the aftermath of his BBQ visit, he told Sam Webb that Michigan's "family atmosphere" stood out and played it coy about where the Wolverines currently stand:

These most recent Michigan experiences reconfirmed for Wilson why he has the storied program in his top five.  They’ve also caused those observing his recruitment to wonder if the Wolverines have moved up his list.

Said Wilson, “my response to that question is, Go Blue!’”

Take that how you will.

Yet another four-star lineman, CA OT Aaron Banks, is set to cut his list down to ten soon. After a better-than-expected BBQ visit, Michigan should make the cut:

"The trip to Michigan was cool," said Banks.  "It was nice.  It was better than I expected.  The school was bigger than I expected it to be.  I was with Coach (Tim) Drevno and one of his assistants.  We met up with Coach (Jim) Harbaugh but didn't get to spend as much time with him.  I met up with Jay Harbaugh some too.  Then we went to one of the stores and got some of the new Jumpman gear."

Banks plans to enroll early. Getting him back for an official visit will be of great importance if Michigan wants to push for his commitment.

Oh, and Scout's main analyst in SEC country, Chad Simmons, is projecting that Michigan will get four-star OG TJ Slaton:

This is probably the toughest one out of this group.  Slaton likes to keep to himself, a lot about his recruitment is unknown, and he could end up at a number of program.  Today though, over six months out, Michigan is the favorite.  The Wolverines landed his good friend, teammate Kai-Leon Herbert over the summer, and this only helps UM.  Herbert made his mind up when him and Slaton were in Ann Arbor a couple of months ago.  Clemson is in this, Florida State is there, and we will see what Slaton does this fall in terms of visits.

While Slaton isn't a lock, he's kept Michigan on top for a while now despite seeing other schools. There's a very real chance Michigan picks up three more elite O-line prospects, at which point one or two current commits might take a look around. No matter how it shakes out, it's hard to see a way in which Michigan doesn't have a great finish at OL.

[Hit THE JUMP for the rest of the roundup.]

M-MSU Battle For Martin?

Four-star IA WR Oliver Martin had to wait to take visits because of baseball season, then saw the two schools considered the favorites to land him, Michigan and Michigan State, in quick succession earlier this month. 247's Steve Wiltfong caught up with Martin's father, who said he "really liked both of them for completely different reasons." Time to play the always-reliable* Quote Comparison Game:

"He feels really good about Michigan," the elder Martin said. "Felt really good about the whole experience. We stopped off at the M-Den and we kind of went crazy, got shirts, hats, coats for everybody."

"Coach (Mark) Dantonio is completely different than Coach Harbaugh, but is still likable and is respected," Martin said. "Oliver feels good about Coach (Terrence) Samuel the receivers coach there. They have a good rapport. Coach Samuel contacts him quite a bit and they've been able to establish a good rapport.

I think that's advantage: Michigan, but it's tough to tell; mostly I enjoyed the "but is still likable" qualification for Dantonio. Oregon is still a threat for Martin, who will take an official to Eugene in September, but at the moment this looks like a Michigan-MSU battle.

Four-star CT WR Tarik Black was considered a Notre Dame lean heading into the BBQ, but Michigan reportedly did quite well with him on his visit. Incidentally, Black set up his first official visit this week, and it's not to South Bend, per 247's Tom Loy:

While he has a top six picked out including Notre Dame, Michigan, Alabama, Auburn, Stanford and UCLA, only one of those schools is guaranteed an official visit at this point.

Black tells Irish247 that he will be in Ann Arbor on Sept. 3 for an official visit to Michigan. He will be on campus when the Wolverines open the season against Hawaii. That will be two consecutive trips to Michigan, as his final summer trip was to Ann Arbor for the annual BBQ in August.

Word after the BBQ that the coaches are considering taking four receivers in the class seems pretty relevant right now.

Hudson Now A Composite Four-Star

Here's a little 247 Composite quirk. When James Hudson committed to Michigan on August 8th, Scout ranked him as their #32 DE. Shortly after Hudson's commitment, Scout changed Hudson's position to DT to more accurately reflect where he'll play in college, and while they kept him in approximately the same overall position, he's their #28 DT because there are fewer four-star tackles on Scout.

Since Hudson's position ranking technically improved, his 247 Composite rating went from the wrong side to the right side of the 3/4-star fringe. It's a quirk of the formula instead of an indication Hudson's stock is on the rise, but we'll happily call him a four-star now.

Meanwhile, Steve Lorenz's latest at the Freep features Hudson going into detail on the roles for all the current defensive line commits:

"I'll be playing the three-technique as an interior pass rusher," he said of his role. "It's something I talked a lot about with Coach Mattison while I was in town over the weekend. I'd be playing next to Rashan Gary and would be the hammer on the inside. Corey (Malone-Hatcher) is a guy who can stand up or put his hand down. Phillip (Paea) is a bulldog in the middle. Aubrey (Solomon) is a 6-3 monster that will do some damage and Luiji (Vilain) is the quicker, longer guy around the edge. I think we're going to compliment [sic] each other really well."

While we've assumed Rashan Gary will eventually play extensive snaps on the interior, the way Michigan has recruited on the defensive line leaves open the possibility they can keep him on the edge at SDE—the spot where he might be the biggest matchup nightmare. Hudson is certainly DT-sized; The Wolverine saw him at a scrimmage last week, and while he didn't play much, he said he's now 6'6", ~290 pounds.

Like Buttah

It's getting tougher and tougher to consider Leonard Taylor a real 2018 commit. The four-star TE/DL made a surprise pledge to Michigan at the spring game, but has since mentioned multiple times that he won't make a "final" decision until his senior year, and this is the list of games he told 247's Bill Kurelic he plans to see this fall:

“I’m going to go to Ohio State when they play Indiana,” Taylor said. “I’m going to Penn State-Ohio State (at Penn State). I’m going to Notre Dame-Michigan State (at Notre Dame), and I’m going to Michigan-Ohio State (at Ohio State). I’m going to try to get to a game at Tennessee too.”

That's a whole lot of Ohio State, and not one game at Michigan Stadium.

Instead of going through the get-off-my-lawn, what's-the-definition-of-commitment song and dance, let's acknowledge that Taylor is holding a spot for now—which both he and the coaches seem fine with—and, like M's coaches, will continue to stay open to the recruiting process. I'm guessing the coaches knew when they accepted Taylor's commitment that their best chance at ultimately landing him would be to get a commitment early and hang on for the inevitable pull back from OSU, where Taylor's uncle played his college ball. Sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't, but this early in the process the strategy comes with minimal risk.

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While there's a long way to go, I should note Michigan is recruiting 2019 blue chip Belleville OT Devontae Dobbs as a defensive lineman, according to the TMI staff. His dad, a huge Michigan fan, painted a rosy picture of M's outlook with the rising sophomore star:

Dobbs' dad, a noted Michigan fan, was thrilled with his son's newest offer.

"He was happy, he already in love with Michigan so he just fell deeper in love with it. He was ecstatic, happy and was telling Jim Harbaugh that he had one of his books."

We have a Crystal Ball pick in for Dobbs to Michigan.

Four-star MS OLB Willie Gay, an Ole Miss commit, has set an official visit to Michigan. Lorenz has been adamant that Gay is very unlikely to end up here, so we'll see if the visit even materializes.

Michigan is seemingly done recruiting weakside DEs, which makes the news that four-star UT WDE Langi Tuifua, an Oregon commit, is considering an official visit to Ann Arbor seem odd when taken at face value. Tuifua, however, is high school teammates with coveted four-star DT Jay Tufele; if they end up with enough spots, perhaps Michigan is trying to make a package deal to give them an edge over Tufele's other top schools, Ohio State and Utah.

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*lol just kidding

Comments

Maizen

August 16th, 2016 at 10:23 AM ^

Wilson, Slaton, and Ruiz would add some serious beef to the OL. I'm also really high on Stueber and Honigford, I think they have great upside. I'm not quite as sold on Hall and Herbert. Will be interesting to see how these coaches juggle OL recruiting. 

Dg

August 16th, 2016 at 1:31 PM ^

I think Stueber and Herbert could be our best lineman from this class if we sign all 7 of our guys on our board.  Wilson will we be good, Ruiz I could see as a dominant center.  But I think the 2 previously mentioned guys have the highest ceiling.  Even Hall looks like a stud to me.  Honigford, I don't know obviously he'll put on the much needed size, but he is still so damn skinny, almost too skinny.

Dg

August 16th, 2016 at 1:32 PM ^

I think Stueber and Herbert could be our best lineman from this class if we sign all 7 of our guys on our board.  Wilson will we be good, Ruiz I could see as a dominant center.  But I think the 2 previously mentioned guys have the highest ceiling.  Even Hall looks like a stud to me.  Honigford, I don't know obviously he'll put on the much needed size, but he is still so damn skinny, almost too skinny.

Farnn

August 16th, 2016 at 10:10 AM ^

So they may take WDE's named Langi and Luigi in this class? Could the Langi offer have anyting to do with Reuben Jones' likelyhood of returning?

Maizen

August 16th, 2016 at 10:20 AM ^

Re Leonard Taylor, he told this to Rivals the other week:

“I really like Notre Dame and they are in my top three,” Taylor said. “I loved [receiving the offer] and I was very happy knowing that they think I can play for them.”

“Michigan is number one and the other two are no order.”

Ohio State being the third school.

Bodogblog

August 16th, 2016 at 1:45 PM ^

At that time he didn't have a Michigan offer.  If the gear-buying spree at Sparty meant, at that time, he was leaning heavily toward them, then the subsequent flip to M gear spree'ing could certainly mean he's now leaning toward M. 

IOW, his gear-buying crystal ball was on Sparty, but changed to M.  

pearlw

August 16th, 2016 at 3:41 PM ^

Not sure I truly understand this comment.
1) Chesson and Darboh will be gone after this year so the depth chart will be wide open.
2) Perry, Harris, and Ways have probably 20 career catches among all of them so not too intimidating.
3) Maybe you are talking about the incoming freshman this season like McDoom, Crawford, etc....so you think he is going to be scared by this when these players have never played a down especially when the other school near top of his list has arguably an even more impressive list of freshman WR's led by Corley.
4) Or maybe you think he is scared off by players not even committed yet ( DPJ, Black, Collins) who may or may not even come to Ann Arbor.

Actually I think the selling point for WR's now is that the depth chart is entirely wide open.



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GotBlueOnMyMind

August 16th, 2016 at 10:30 AM ^

John Garcia Jr.'s comment regarding Nico Collins made me laugh, stating that Bama may just not have a late spot open for him. That's how they'll be able to back up the talk that no player from Alabama who Auburn/Bama wants will choose Michigan. Sure they may have recruited him, but they just didn't have a spot open for him, that's why he chose Michigan instead of them.

Mr Miggle

August 16th, 2016 at 1:19 PM ^

Auburn coach Gus Malzahn was asked by a reporter Monday about satellite camps, whether he had a relationship with Harbaugh or had run any camps with him before.

His response: "No, I don't. I think that whole thing kind of got blown out of proportion, to be honest with you. The chances of a team up north coming into our state and a player that us or Alabama wants are slim to none. So it was just a matter of that was the big story. Our league right now, if they're going to keep doing it, we've chosen to be a part of that. So we'll see where that goes."

 

ElBictors

August 16th, 2016 at 10:40 AM ^

Anyone else see the columbus groundskeeper/Buckeye fan insulting Wilson on Twitter?

 

So classy when an "adult" harasses a kid on-line.  So classy ....groundskeeper. 

 

lol

Steves_Wolverines

August 16th, 2016 at 10:50 AM ^

Please Please Please finish this OL haul with Ruiz, Slaton, and Wilson. 

That would be 7 OL and I think we'd all be OK with that. I wouldn't want anyone to drop out of this class. Stueber and Honigford are straight Harbaugh dudes; tough, hard nosed, physical. Hall and Herbert have potential to be steady OL for 2 years. And the three hopefuls above could compete for playing time in year 1. 

With the 2016 class only landing Bredeson, Onwenu, and Spanellis, I think taking 7 this cycle is a graet idea. 

2015 cycle we took Newsome, Runyan Jr, and Ulizio. We haven't heard much about Runyan and Ulizio. I assume they are progressing and will push to see the field next season. 

Blue In NC

August 16th, 2016 at 11:52 AM ^

Possibly but consider that we need bodies there and with 3-4 new starters, they might play 1-2 true freshmen (probably as backups) next year.  If so, then those guys almost count as 2016 recruits (4-5 total then) with the remaining 5-6 being redshirted and on track for 2017.  So it might not be as much of an imbalance as it first appears.

sammylittle

August 16th, 2016 at 12:08 PM ^

My daughter goes to school with Willie Gay. My son was the Starkville High School Football team's honorary team captain. The kid can play (Willie Gay, not my son)!

DMack

August 16th, 2016 at 8:31 PM ^

I really hope we get him too. I cant say it enough, he would be explosive under a Don Brown system. If I had a choice at any linebacker in this class, it would be a tie between him and Browning. After that theres a drop off.

He seemed really high on Michigan during summer swarm camp. Then he suddenly chose a school that looks to be in a lot of trouble. I still think that his official with us will be the most telling. Hopefully we can get his mom to trust that he will be in good hands and that Ole Miss is a dumpster fire that he shouldn't even want his name associated with. Send in Wheatley and any other recruiters that might have a chance but go hard for this kid.