OTL E:60 clip from this morning - focuses solely in MSU MBB

Who were the 4 football players accused in the gang rape mentioned from 2007???, Seriously this was so covered up and they need to be exposed and handed punishment by an outside Justice System

The interview with the parents of the deceased rape victim was tough and compelling. As a dad to a daughter, I have to think there will be some loud voices coming forward. Is there a way at to have east lansing annexed back to Lansing? Kind of joking, but...

MSU to get out in front of this? Obviously, what is done is done, but if people are going to keep digging, and they most certainly are, wouldn’t those who remain be smart to hand over everything and try to get over this as soon as possible?

This is the article: https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/01/28/michigan-state-university-silence-sexual-assaults/1071818001/

If Izzo/Dantonio keep their jobs, it's because people will say there was a systemic issue there that's larger than the two lowly coaches.

I don’t think many people at MSU or in the media fully understand the gravity of what Bill Scheutte has done in appointing a Special Prosecutor. That role doesn’t exist merely to file a report; they also have the ability to file criminal charges. When his office looked into the Flint water crisis, charges were filed and people - including state employees - went to jail. The same thing will happen here. That’s not even including what may yet happen if the Dept of Ed’s investigation is turned over to the DOJ, which is more likely now than ever. The Feds don’t file charges unless they’ve got you dead to rights. I suspect by their statements that Izzo understands the jam he’s in; but Dantonio really doesn’t get it yet. Both should have hired personal defense attorneys yesterday. They need the advice of counsel and to, for once in both of their miserable lives, STFU if they have any sense at all.

Anyone know how to see the full episode? Replay, link etc? I searched Espn app/site... no luck.

Just said on the E:60 show that pepper Hamilton has a report on this. Is this our pepper?

ESPN will have a long thread to pull and they know the pieces that will keep people shaking their heads. 1. Austin Robertson- the incidents against females in HS and Dantonio’s “vetting” before Austin was placed on scholarship will really raise questions about FB actually inserting a known predator on campus. 2. King/Vance/Corley - trial will raise the topic all over again and increase PR inquiries about Blackwell’s insertion into the process (when did Dantonio really know). I suspect Blackwell might be a good candidate for a deposition. 3. Dunnings mess - all of the sexual assaults swept away during his sordid tenure will get a fresh look for professional misconduct - such as the Payne/Appling case despite police recommending charges and corroborating statements by the players. 4. Missing Title IX submissions - ESPN certainly has insight that violent issues occurred without thorough Title IX processing. 5. Administration compliance - they haven’t really started to report on the individuals (like Asst Gen Counsel Moore) and folks will start to talk “off the record” as the heat turns up. 6. Media presence - post game pressers and every MSU game will raise this topic. March Madness will actually feel like everybody is leery about Izzo’s program. He hasn’t even begun to feel the relentless questions that will test his patience.

Sexual assault issues can happen involving athletes at any school including here it's how you handle it is the difference. It's also about the character of the people that you bring in, Dantonio has been known to bring in some rather questionable characters. He did not pull Jayru Campbell scholarship offer until after the third incident when the media basically blew the story up and in the Robertson case he slipped him in after signing day even though he had a sexual assault issue in high school. So as far as I see it he brought a sexual predator on to campus, that is on dantonio

Can someone do me a favor and check if there will be a replay later this evening? I’ll record/torrent it.

Just finished watching this, and the nassar story on E60. I vividly remember that story from 2010, and it just was nothing...it went away. I remember the story of the woman and Appling and Payne--and then during the final 4, all the special interest focus was on how Payne befriended a young girl with cancer. A super warm-hearted story about him...and I kept thinking, "what about that rape story"...and it went nowhere. Well, thank goodness Carolyn Schaner is speaking up now. This is clearly a cultural issue at MSU. Hiding things, protecting athletes; all the while a culture is created where we don't want women speaking up. Izzo is complicit at the very least--and that is being kind, imo. The other thing I thought of watching this, is that you KNOW this is going on in other places. Suppression of assaults to protect high profile people, or the reputation of an institution. I hope like hell our institution has not created this culture, but I would bet more is going to come out at other institutions as well. People should be outraged--and if they are, it will empower the others from other institutions to speak up. And they should.

There is Latin saying, "Fiat justitia ruat caelum", let justice be done though the heavens fall.

I feel bad enough watching football knowing about the physical toll exacts on the players for the rest of their lives, and how college athletics makes such a mockery of the 'student athlete'. I really don't need to also be perpetuaing an evil culture of allowing certain people to be above the law.

I am quite confidant we have nothing to fear with Beilein at the helm. Everything I've seen from Harbaugh suggests he's on the right track, tough with cases like Grant Perry's though I admit I did not follow that too closely. I thought he was over zealous with JBB at the time but now maybe not so.

I think what Izzo and Dantonio did was probably what they viewed and maybe was industry norm. But there is a sea change going on and with the Nassar microscope they need to go. I don't want to watch a Michigan / MSU game and have to have that subtext.

This is absolutley deplorable. I nearlyt hrew up when Travis Walton basically said if I punched her the injury would have been much worse.  If there was a video of this, Izzo would have had to fire him and MIGHT not be losing his job in the next few weeks. 

There was a guy on the radio this AM named Jeff Lesson (who I've never heard of) who said he was a Spartan Grad and a criminal attorney that that there is zero chance these two don't get fired soon and/or prosectued.  He was sickened by all of it  There were still calllers who said that if there were no convictions then this may be made up and they should keep their jobs.  Delusional 

 

football was after the commercial...

This is not going away and Izzo and Mike will eventually go. Also to the poster regarding RCMB IQs being around 80...many people with mental challenges have have wonderful personalities. Please don't throw them in with that ilk in EL.