My apologies to John O'Korn, Brian and The Board

Hey man, it happens.  The reality of it is that many of us on here probably thought or said some of the things you did (I didn't see what you said so I'm assuming it wasn't anything too horrible...) but just didn't post it for public consumption.

My old boss always told me that she would wait 24 hours to respond to anything that really got her upset (mostly pertaining to emails or voicemails she got at work).  I've used this in my personal and work life and I can say, it's helped immensely.

 

fuk u man

jk luv u man

When I was a kid, Sports were like 95% good, and 5% bad for my mood. Now I'm 33, and I don't even know If it's a 50-50 split. It's hard to just enjoy sports anymore. It was definitely something I was contemplating on Saturday afternoon.

That is about the age (41) that I stopped kicking furniture when Michigan lost.  Then again, only my wife and kids knew about that (and my wife bought sturdy furniture).  

My day sucks when Michigan loses, but the next day is a new day (and next year will have a more experienced team).

 

Is this mGrowOld's tailgate host's camoflaged cousin?

And thanks for posting this. While i didnt post on the board all day- this post got me to call both my dad and wife and apoligize to them for acting like a freakin idiot all night. 

I am prettu sure this is the most mature thing that has ever happened on the internet.  Good for you, sir.

I would accept your apology, but we all know no one really cares or is actually affected in any real way by what you said in the first place.  The fact that you think anyone cares enough that a public apology is required is probably worse than anything you said Saturday.  I'm sure it's annoying for Brian and the moms, but no one else deep down really gives a shit when folks say stupid shit in the comments. Any normal person knows being angry at a 20 year old for being bad at a game is stupid, but none of us actually care because if you werent born yesterday you know that obviously there's some idiots out there.  We have to pretend we're horrified and condemn those only because it makes us all feel good and helps us orient ourselves and among our peers and solidify the way we see ourselves as good and moral MI fan or "above" that behavior, but it's all bullshit. We're all just trying to feel good about who we are. That's what your doing here so I don't accept your apology, 

or maybe I'm just messing with you.  

dilly dilly

This fool tryna not get banned lol

I too am 41.  I too was "enraged" but some things Saturday.  I too said things about poor JOK that I shouldn't have... I just stopped short of posting them.  I raged to my wife, in my living room, and then stopped when my kids walked in.  I then saw the press conference and felt immediate guilt, shame, and sadness for that young man.  I'm still sad for him.  

I also recognized not once, NOT ONCE in my life, have I ever put myself out there like these players do, for all the world to see, to succeed OR FAIL at something, in front of millions.  

We love success stories, but they're only sweet because failure is also an option.  And sometimes, people fail.  Sometimes these KIDS fail.  Sometimes it's in that Devin Gardner two point conversion on a bad leg kind of way; that "valiant effort" kind of way.  A way that we can accept.  Sadly, other times, failure is epic and across the board and can be hard to take in the moment for people who've invested so much but can't actually effect the outcome themselves. 

But hey, this kid put himself out there.  He was willing and able to put in the hard work and dedication it takes to be a quarterback at Michigan.  He laid it on the line and stepped up when called upon. 

Okay... so his effort fell way short.  Whatever.  I'm over it and I wish John nothing but the best.  He put himself out there.  So many of us, myself included, have never done even that much.

I screamed at the tv a couple times. However every bad throw Okorn made my dad and I just laughed. Him tripping and falling on a critical 2nd down and 1, missing a wide open Evans over the middle for what wouldve been a game changing 20 yard gain into Ohio territory, and launching a punt into the arms of an Ohio DB after our D made a heroic stop....

 

You just have to laugh at it all. It will be ok

you coming forward and doing this. It can take a big person to step up and do what you just did. Time to move on for everyone.

step back and enjoy life. ive lost my brother and dog in the past 3 months, the game had pretty much zero effect on my life. at the same time my interest in sports goes down every year. it just doesn't mean that much to me anymore. i enjoy watching the games, and 10 years ago might have acted like a total jackass this season, but ive grown up. i cant let something like sports effect my life like that anymore. enjoy it but dont invest so much of your time/life into it. trust me you'll be much happier.

Love seeing this, wish more of the people who lost their mind on Saturday chimed in.  

I appreciate your post. We need more character here. It reminds me of another post a few weeks ago who’s OP could learn something from you. The title was “What do I tell my kids?”. When i clicked the link I expected to read about one of maybe 20 or more absolutely unexplainable things going on right now where for the first time since the 40s and 50s we can legitimately worry about our childrens future. Unexplainable, at least, for a michigan man or woman who, in the words of Bo and others, believe in character, integrity and honesty. And we can add science. Nonetheless when i opened the thread and started reading about the “dark place” the OP was in, I was appalled to learn that the thing he was worried about for his kids was that they never had the chance to see Michigan win a championship and he’s worried that they never will.

Or, "the darkest hour is always before the dawn." Rebuilding a Power 5 program is tough --- admittedly M's rebuild has taken longer than most fans would like. But with confidence in the coaching staff and with a little more patience than most of us would like to expend, M is on the right track, as this ESPN article suggests:

http://www.espn.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/143482/despite-another-rivalr…

 

I bet he would appreciate kind words.

Don’t worry about us posters. We are all nuts to some degree.

Go Blue!

If anybody was out there personally attacking the kid via email or DM, then yeah that is out of line. Threatening his life or someone in his family is completely inexcusable. However, saying he played awful or he sucked in the game Saturday on this board is completely fair. He played bad and if you were judging his play between the lines, then that’s cool. Most people are judging JOK the QB and not him as a young man. I hope the kid has a wonderful life and goes on to do great things in this world, but if he never throws a pass again I will be fine with that!

"...41 year old man could act like a man over a simple football game. Saturday I did not. I let 14 years of emotional investment..."

WTF were you doing the first 27 years of your life, rooting for Sparty?

We all felt the sting of a loss where victory was within our grasp.  Sometimes we all forget that we support the best freaking University and it's teams no matter what!  No apology really needed but pretty impressed you took the time.

Now if we could just get all the #!$$#@$!#@ who still can't resist posting dilly dilly crap to voluntarily leave...

2018 and beyond is going to be great for Michigan Football!

GO BLUE!!

Owning you to mistakes and misgivings is a sure sign of maturity and being genuinely human. At least to me it is. I've been in your shoes, letting Michigan games and the players get me angered. I've never been a one too post about it online, I just screamed at the TV and acted like a douche canoe to those around me. I got through it, hopefully you will to. I still get down when we lose but I've stopped letting it affect me. When it comes to the players I try not to expect anything more than I know they are capable of giving. JOK played the same game he's played all season, give or take a few errors. Expecting him to be different just isn't realistic. That's just a form of acceptance, and it helps keep me a happier person.

No big.  Any website with more than 100 people on it is going to have some idiot behavior sometimes.  It happens.  

Shouldn't freak people out.

Just don't personally attack college kids.  That's not OK.

 

I think the problem was that JOK actually exceeded our expectations early in the game. So when the game remained close and he ended up playing how I had expected him to all week it just made it worse.

There are numerous other folks who need to show some contrition after their demands and bashing of the program on Saturday. I agree 100% with Brian shutting it off for 24 hours or whatever; adults needed a time out to collect themselves. The best thing I did was spend the game and the following 3 hours with a mix of UM fans, buckeye fans and Clemson fans ... and we talked football. They all stated what many of us miss - Michigan is back and it's just a matter of Harbaugh getting the right mix of talent. Saturday confirmed it.

Fantastic that you apologized but you're 40... This lesson should have been learned many many moons ago.

After The Game on Saturday, I (like the comments did for some time) chose to remain almost completely silent.

Lots of crazy stuff went down on this board over the last 2 days (understatement of the year), and I have to admit my frustrations (that continued to build while I read your thoughts), would have made me say similar horrible things. That's why I prevented myself, for the most part,  from posting until today.

I, like many, forgive you, as many people who have said such horrible things about one of our own will not own up to the stupidity of their comments.

As Harbaugh says, let's keep improving each day, and progressively become less of a group of idiots as a board. We can be realistic without saying some of the things that were said.

Onward and Go Blue.

 

Throw JOK under the bus more so than you did. I thought JOK played well except for a few mistakes. I apologize to the D, since I mentioned on some threads that they should have closed out OSU like the '97 D did.

Thanks for taking a step that no other ugly poster from Saturday has done.

My experience is to never post when drunk or pissed off.  Once it is in writing then it is forever inked somewhen in the Intersphere.

I reviewed you Saturday posts and you really were not as bad as some others who just exhibited their sophmoric attitude toward sports events.  I mean, hey how many of you have stepped on the field in front of 110,000 rabid fans?  Those posts were brutal.

Come on man.  How could anyone blast a 20-year old kid who is trying his best to make his team win.  Mistakes are made........every day by all of us.

But I admire you for this post.