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12/21/2018 - 2:00pm Comment of the day.

Comment of the day.

12/20/2018 - 10:39am Is that Seth going after…

Is that Seth going after Brian a little bit in the comments regarding the Auburn/Bleacher Report story?  

Love it.  Ahhhh... memories.  

11/15/2018 - 12:48pm Thanks dude. 

Just spent an…

Thanks dude. 

Just spent an hour at work reading up on Yellowstone volcanism.  

10/31/2018 - 10:18am Heh heh.  Wish I'd have…

Heh heh.  Wish I'd have thought of saying that.


Of course, now, Chase just hands them out.

10/31/2018 - 8:02am I think this is a byproduct…

On the whole "screwing up the name" thing:

I think this is a byproduct of that maniacal focus football coaches often have.

When I was a manager there was me "Joel" and we also had a "Joe."  I handled Coach Carr's cords on game day my entire second year on the job but about 75% of the time Lloyd would call me "Joe." This went on into my third year too.

Finally one day I said "coach, it's actually 'Joel,' you know, with an 'L'."  He shot me a look and said "I know perfectly well what your name is!  This is Michigan!  You gotta EARN your 'L'!!"  

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10/24/2018 - 11:01am Sold them for my asking…

Sold them for my asking price.  They literally got snapped up in about 15 seconds on Stubhub.

I held off to see if anyone from the board was going to email, but I didn't get any so I just went ahead and listed them. 

Thanks all for the input/advice!



10/24/2018 - 9:03am Good luck!  I think you'll…

Good luck!  I think you'll find Indiana ones at a reasonable price.  Unfortunately, mine are already spoken for.

10/24/2018 - 8:53am I hope true Michigan fans…

I hope true Michigan fans are tweeting @ her offering nothing but good will, support and best wishes for her son.

10/24/2018 - 8:45am Wow.  Okay.

Well, these are…

Wow.  Okay.

Well, these are Section 12, Row A, seats 1-4.  Pretty much right at the flag pole.  You can basically high five Todd McShay... if you were so inclined.  

I guess, if you're interested, you can email me at [email protected] with an offer.

Looking at what I'm seeing on Stubhub, I was going to list them for $225/ticket.  But I'll take best offer.  


10/19/2018 - 11:50am In! 

Section 29.




Section 29.


Go Blue.

10/18/2018 - 12:14pm FUCK YA! 

And then... and…


And then... and then... we'll follow them home and knock on their door, and when they answer we'll be all like "I believe you have something that belongs to us" and then we'll pin them down and in a not-so-gentle fashion remove our broken off foot from their ass and then... and then... we'll, like, force feed it to them and be all like "uh huh!  Ya!  You like that Sparty?!  Huh?  You like how that ass foot tastes?!"  And they'll be all like "no!" and we'll be like "YA!  Eat that ass foot!!"

Heh heh.  It's gunna be awesome.  

10/17/2018 - 12:37pm Exactly.  Jordan Lewis is…

Exactly.  Jordan Lewis is still undersized.

10/17/2018 - 12:36pm Clearly the poster forgot…

Clearly the poster forgot the "/s" ...or the #reversepsychology hashtag.

10/16/2018 - 10:49am "So that takes care of the…

"So that takes care of the edge: faking the DE into using himself up on Chris Evans wins Michigan a McKeon block vs a true freshman cornerback."

Unless the refs call Evans for "holding" the DE.  

10/12/2018 - 10:45am Christ.  "Trash"??  Really? …

Christ.  "Trash"??  Really?  

He was in over his head, but "trash" is just... I dunno... c'mon man.  

Jerry Sandusky is "trash." 

Brady Hoke was just not good enough.  

The world not only needs to adjust it's OUTRAGE!!! meter but it needs to start checking its word choices.  If "trash" is somehow an accurate word to describe Brady Hoke, then what words describe someone like Rick Pitino?



10/11/2018 - 1:38pm I think you're inferring…

I think you're inferring just as much as I am.  Just the opposite way. 

Look, given what we know - specifically that he has always maintained that the Big Ten is now "in New York" - I have to believe that his quote was meant to convey that Chicago has the largest viewership as it relates to conference content.  No surprise if true.    

To me, that's a much more plausible inference than "he just admitted that New York isn't in the Big Ten!!!"    

10/11/2018 - 1:19pm Not seeing the logic in the…

Not seeing the logic in the argument here.

Pointing out that Chicago is "#1 in the Big Ten" does not undercut the notion that NYC isn't simultaneously an important market that he wanted the conference to also be in.  He didn't add Rutgers to make NYC "#1 in the Big Ten" he added Rutgers to add the NYC market.  Period.  Whether it's 2nd, 3rd... he doesn't care. It's a huge market and he wanted the conference to have a piece of it.  NYC may be the #1 overall market in the country, but as to Big Ten related content it's obviously falls behind Chicago.  That's reasonable.  It doesn't make NYC less valuable.

Delaney creates enough "dur hur Delaney is moron" moments all by himself.  We don't have to go manufacturing them.

10/11/2018 - 11:32am I think the main thesis is…

I think the main thesis is that a crew can't possibly monitor every point of contact between 22 players and keep watching all of those points for the entire duration of a play.  They have to scan and hone in on certain areas as things develop.  They have to play the percentages on where a consequential penalty is most likely to occur and place their focus there.  This includes the type of play being run, the blocking scheme that's unfolding, etc.

Holding is most likely to occur when an O-lineman is over-matched and getting beat.  A double team reduces the likelihood that an O-lineman will need to grab (since he's got help) so the refs turn their focus elsewhere.  They've only got so much attention to go around.

That's how you'd want it as a coach as well.  If they can only watch so many things then you want them prioritizing where the holds are more likely to occur (one-on-one match-ups vs. double teams) as well as holds that effect the play more directly.  I'm sure they'd still call a blatant hold, even with a double-team, on an edge play where the contain defender gets pulled down.  But they're not going to focus on a possible hold on your 3-tech who is being double teamed on that same play.  They're going to notice that the 3-tech is being doubled, while also recognizing that its a run attacking the edge, and then (hopefully) immediately focus on the ends and contain players looking for infractions there.  You don't want them staring at the 3-tech double team, to see if one of the O-lineman holds, and miss your contain player getting tackled.  

That's why its so infuriating when they call a ticky tack hold on your backside tight-end that was completely inconsequential to the play.  It's like "why are you even focusing on that?  The play went the complete opposite way!!"  Part of being a good ref is picking your spots, knowing where to watch, because you can't possibly see everything.  You have to prioritize.  

10/10/2018 - 11:54am Easy now.  Let's not get…

Easy now.  Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

10/04/2018 - 1:27pm For programs that are…

For programs that are experiencing little on-field success the cost of attendance is a factor as ticket sales decrease, which translates into a lack of attendance.  But Alabama sells out.  

The game day cost isn't as much of a factor in this particular scenario.  These are sold tickets.  If anything, these are kids who can apparently AFFORD to buy the ticket AND choose not to use it. WHY?

For students I think that, for non-compelling match ups, they'd rather get together as a group, in an air conditioned apartment, surrounded by their friends (instead of the asshole that screams "throw the ball!!" after every play).  At home they can be on-line while also chatting with their friends, drinking openly, going to the bathroom whenever they want, grabbing some food out of the fridge whenever they want... etc.  There has always been an opportunity cost for attending a sporting event.  In the connectivity age we've reached the point where the benefits don't outweigh the costs when you're playing baby seal U.  

Watching a game in the comfort of your own home is convenient, but more than that, it's PLEASANT.  You're not suffering through 25 minutes of commercial breaks on a hard bench (or standing) in gawdawful heat while the drunk lady behind you yells "why do we suck so bad!!" every time the other team gains 3 yards.  At home its "yet another commercial break?  I'll switch over to another game for a minute... or go grab a beer and check on the other scores on my iPad."  

You don't notice all of negative stadium experience crap so much when you're playing Auburn or Ohio State, you notice it VERY MUCH when you're playing Louisiana-Lafayette or SMU.  And there have been a lot more Louisiana-Lafayettes and SMUs lately.  For all of us.  Add in swapping out annual dates with Iowa so that we can play Rutgers and, well... I get it.  


10/02/2018 - 2:11pm There is also a long-view…

There is also a long-view/short-view element to scripting that might account for why teams with less overall talent sometimes seem to "script" Michigan well on their first few drives, while Michigan doesn't seem to noticeably "script" others during that same time, quite as much.

Teams with less talent might take a short view of scripting, trying to do wholly new things that counter the opponent's tendencies; they're looking for surprise things that hit big and quickly, on their early drives.  They rep these hard all week and hope to execute them well, but know that the defense will adjust quickly and, once they do, their offense is back to its base stuff, which the superior opponent has prepped for and can probably handle.  The goal is to stake themselves to an early lead that they can hold onto... maybe get momentum going in their direction (a la Northwestern) with the hope that the momentum will propel them to an upset.  They also know that if they don't hit on these, they might get face tanked really quick (a la Western).  If you spent 30% of your practice week repping your first two series, and you get stoned, now you're back to your base stuff, which is exactly what your opponent has been prepping for.  It's a risk/reward view that a decided underdog might be willing to take.  

Teams with superior talent like to play a low variance game and thus may not use their scripted plays in the same way.  While a whole new play hitting for a big gainer would be awesome, the "superior" team will save that for a rival and decide to use their scripted plays to establish new keys and intricacies for the opponent to react to that, they hope, will pay dividends throughout the game and into the 4th quarter.  The superior team may not rep these plays as much because it's not so much about executing them perfectly as it is about establishing something new in the heads of an overmatched opponent, only to go back to their "bread and butter" stuff later in the game, perhaps with some wrinkles that play off of the stuff they established while "on script."  

For the superior team the early script may not be so much about taking those big shots at chunk plays as it is about methodically establishing new wrinkles that will mess with run fits, etc., which you can then exploit at the right time later with the stuff you rep all the time and do well.  

10/01/2018 - 4:20pm That's true regardless of…

That's true regardless of whether you're home or away.

09/27/2018 - 2:45pm Exactly. 

I saw nothing in…


I saw nothing in that news item that makes me exclaim "yikes."    

Could be anything from:

- they think he may have cheated on a psych 101 test, 


- he helped Craig James ALLEGEDLY kill five hookers.


Let the facts come out before we blowuptuate stuff.

09/17/2018 - 3:57pm I left.  End of the third…

I left.  End of the third quarter.  Just left.  I haven't done that since my wife was pregnant (2004) and she was getting too uncomfortable to stay.  Since then, every game I've attended I've stayed until the bitter end.  Not Saturday.  

Saturday, I looked at my buddy as the fourth quarter started and I said "I'm ready to bail, you?"  and he, who also never leaves, was like "yeah."  That's it, just "yeah."  No discussion, we didn't think twice.  First time in 14 years and it wasn't even a thought.

Everything Brian said... all of it.  That's what we said too.  When we finally felt like discussing it, the "why," after all these years, we left THIS game, we said the same thing.  It just wasn't fun.  It was less than "not fun."  It sucked.  Ya, it was hot, but I've sat through that before.  The refs, the media timeouts, the replays, ZERO connectivity so that I could find out what the hell happened to Wisconsin... it just sucked the enjoyment out of the whole thing.  

So, I beat the traffic and thought I would listen to the rest of the game on the way home in the car...  want to add insult to injury?  Leave the game and then be reminded that your "radio voice" is Jim Brandstatter.  He's SO BAD at play-by-play... so ridiculously HORRIBLY bad at it, that I couldn't bare it.  (I grew up with his color, but he is NOT a play-by-play guy) 

I put on an podcast about the fall of Rome.  I didn't watch any games the rest of the weekend.  The experience sapped any desire to even keep tabs on the sport for a few days.  Don't even know how my fantasy teams did.

09/10/2018 - 4:08pm your last what?

your last what?

09/10/2018 - 4:04pm Is that what you were doing…

Is that what you were doing while you were NOT seeing our best linebacker playing the entire second half?  Eating dicks?

09/10/2018 - 3:34pm First TD throw to a receiver…

First TD throw to a receiver since April of 1925???  

You must be referring to the pass Benny Friedman threw to Bennie Oosterbaan against Minnesota that year, but Oosterbaan was technically a right half back on that play.

No no, the last "receiver" to catch a TD was Dutch Marion in 1924 against Northwestern... If we count "ends" as "receivers."  

09/02/2018 - 12:00am I’m sorry. I am. It’s the…

I’m sorry. I am. It’s the beer and anger talking here, really, it is. It’s not you. But JESUS GODDAMN CHRIST WHAT FUCKING GAME WERE WATCHING?!?

i’m sorry.  Really. It’s not you. I, I just...


I really am sorry.  You don’t deserve this. I’m just angry.  It’s, it’s not you.  It’s me. 



08/23/2018 - 2:07pm Ya.  As soon as I wrote that…

Ya.  As soon as I wrote that I went "that's pretty much cherry picking right there.  Just like he's saying..."

08/23/2018 - 1:03pm I've been wondering this too…

I've been wondering this too.  What if some schools just said "we're done.  We're not playing these schools any more."  Would it have any effect?

The problem is that these things, or, at least, similar things, really can happen anywhere.  We'd all like to think that it can't, but if Penn State taught us anything it's that you can "say" it all you want, that doesn't make it true.

So, any school that took that kind of stand and then later was found to be guilty of... GOD KNOWS WHAT... then the "stand" they took just becomes a sanctimonious soap box for others to poop in.

08/23/2018 - 12:58pm But then a Denard comes…

But then a Denard comes along, or a Grant Newsome and... I dunno... I at least feel good rooting for them, on the field and off.

Sports still provide us with this great window through which to view amazing tests of human strength and character.  When you cut away all of this other... SHIT... there is still a kid from Pehokee out there DOING THINGS.  Awesome things.  I can still get behind that.

*waves tiny flag*

08/23/2018 - 12:49pm Here's how it seems to me:

Here's how it seems to me:

There is a tacit understanding among the OSU higher-ups (forget the fan base) that Courtney Smith is some psychopath who manufactured or otherwise "provoked" this situation.  They know they can't "say" it but, goddamn, the perceived "unfairness" is killing them, especially Meyer.  He's pissed at Zac Smith, sure, but Courtney... oh man, is he steaming at her, and its killing him that he can't say WHY.  That he can't tell the world that this woman is mental!  MENTAL I TELL YA!!!

From the way some parts of the report reads, to Meyer's quotes and refusal to acknowledge Courtney Smith, through the vague statements from the board and the president... it just feels like they're all rolling their eyes internally; like they can't BELIEVE this woman is getting away with this.  Sure, fine, we'll all say the things we're expected to say, "abuse is bad, blah blah," "should have paid more attention, blah blah," "I guess my biggest flaw is that I just give people too many dang chances in life, blah blah blah..." but this is all for show because, to them, this woman MADE THIS HAPPEN.  The abuse, the scandal, all of it.  It's all a mountain created from a molehill.  She told her cheating husband she'd make him pay, and she did, and smeared their fine institution in the process.  She forced him to put his hands on her, then played it up.  That's what they think.  

I honestly think that, in a candid, private moment, every one of the OSU higher-ups involved in this is quietly telling their closest friends [in their best office gossip voice] "well, there's a LOT you don't know about Courtney Smith.  Trust me.  The woman's a full on nut job."  *resigned sigh* "But public sentiment was already in her favor so we couldn't say any of it.  So Coach Meyer and Gene just had to take their lumps.  It's all quite unfair really, but what are you going to do?  The public is automatically on the side of any woman who alleges abuse these days, even when she's completely crazy."  

So now, because of this #metoo world we live in (from their perspective), they'll give the ravenous public their symbolic pound of flesh, mumble their begrudging apologies, stay vague on the things that don't add up (because that would require explaining to the world precisely how and why Courtney Smith is a manipulating psycho which, my god, have you seen the world today?!  It's nuts out there with all of these women saying all of these... things...), and wait for the next scandal to move them off the front page. 

08/23/2018 - 11:55am Speaking of MSU, did the…

Speaking of MSU, did the whole ESPN expose thing on Dantonio and Izzo just fizzle? 

It was this big thing regarding the "pattern of denial, inaction, information suppression;" Austin Robertson, Travis Walton, et. al. ...did that just all dry up and blow away?

08/13/2018 - 7:37pm September?  Saw it on sale…

September?  Saw it on sale at Schueler’s in Okemos two days ago.  

07/25/2018 - 2:59pm Cue the "the defense is…

Cue the "the defense is always good, fix the offense!" take in 3, 2... op, there it is.

A timeless classic.

07/06/2018 - 9:16am Hold me TomVH!

Hold me TomVH!

04/27/2018 - 10:40am He started 26 games as a soph. and Jr.

"Played all of 6 games there at Arkansas?" 

He played in nine games as a true frosh, started all 13 as a sophomore, and started all 13 as a junior.  The fact that he sprained his ankle in the middle of his senior year after THAT kind of a start is hardly a knock.

04/20/2018 - 12:10pm We'd just take Hurts for a little spin...

...maybe show him off to a couple of friends...

03/28/2018 - 4:43pm Fire Beilein

Back in 2013, as we were coming off a loss to Wisconsin in the B1G Tornament I clipped and saved some VERY choice takes from some of our illustrious MGoPosters regarding Beilein and his monumental inability to coach.  His lack of recruiting prowess.  His softness.  The way he gets nothing out of his players.  Can't coach defense.  On and on and on. 

Of course, that season ended in the NCAA title game.  

I wonder if I still have those...

03/16/2018 - 11:57am The Man-Bun

Dialogue with my 9 year old daughter after having a waiter with a man-bun deliver us our food at the local Mongolian BBQ:

HER:  Is he a samurai?

ME:  No.

HER:  Aww.  This place would be a lot cooler if he was.

03/16/2018 - 11:49am Good to know

Folks, it goes without saying that you shouldn't hunt down this person just to vent at her, let alone threaten her.

Now, having said that... let's all hunt down and threaten whoever it was that put a mic near her!  That guy needs to pay for being such a moron!!*



03/05/2018 - 10:12am T-Shirt

The Underground T-Shirt crew needs to get on a Back 2 Back shirt design of some kind.  Can't find one anywhere.  That's the one I want.    

Has anyone seen a B2B shirt?

02/06/2018 - 1:34pm Not good at recruiting?

Just can't agree with that. 

Results on the field are the single biggest recruiting tool any program has.  We could have Tom Brady himself personally visiting every recruit on our board and the OSU guys would just yawn and say "score board" and still take their pick.  

Our coaches recruit very well considering they can't point to a whole lot of results in terms of bowl wins, conference championships, playoff appearances, WINS OVER OSU. 

Hell, MSU can actually point to a lot more recent success then we can, and our coaches STILL outrecruit them.  There are players on MSU's team right now that have B1G rings they can show off to recruits, and they still can't real in the occasional Jabrill Peppers, Rashan Gary, DPJ, etc...

Now, if you want to criticize our coaching staff's ability to put a product on the field that will line up and beat elite teams... well then, okay.  That might be legit.  I personally believe that it was always going to take 3 or so years for Harbaugh to get to that level, but I'll listen to the argument.  

But saying our coaching staff "can't recruit?"  That's a bridge too far for me.

02/06/2018 - 8:50am MSU Rose Bowl

Well, to be fair, the 2008 class didn't end up playing in the Rose Bowl (if my math is right) and the kids that they were touting from that class, Fred Smith, Tyler Hoover, Caulton Ray, Charles Burrell... didn't exactly light it up for them.  Kirk Cousins was in that year though, I think, with Cunningham, Rucker, Winston.  

They did "lay the foundation" so to speak, I guess, as this class came in just after the first of the 9 game bowl streak that was snapped last year.  

Obviously, intimating that Little Brother was going to continue to bow down to the might of Rich Rod was, well, not accurate.  But honestly, the last decade was not something anyone could have predicted. 

The signs that MSU was going to flip the script on us weren't there at all... until all of the sudden it was happening and we went back and looked at things and went "oh yeah, well, sure, I see it all now."

02/01/2018 - 12:38pm Great.

Now I'm going to spend all day looking those up and going "oh my god!"  ...then looking up the next one...

02/01/2018 - 12:36pm The Road

The Road.

It's not, like, over the top depravity (which I can usually dismiss), it's just sad.  Very.  Sad.


Great.  Now I need a hug.

02/01/2018 - 9:25am Are you new here?

One of the basic tenants of this site has been to thoroughly debunk the notion that "stars don't matter."  It has been done thoroughly and repeatedly on MGoBlog and elsewhere.  Not only is it not an accurate opinion, it definitely isn't an original one.   

For those who care about things like data, statistics and, I dunno, PROOF, it's pretty clear that, in the aggregate, recruit rankings are often an excellent indicator of future performance.  Team's that stock up on highly rated recruits invariable do better than teams that don't.   

For those into anecdotal evidence, yes, we can all point to the five star bust and the two star all-pro and say "see, stars don't matter."

At the 10,000 foot view, the recruiting services are definitely providing worthwhile information.  On the individual player level, you can point to any number of players that they didn't evaluate quite accurately. 

Hence, as a prospect, I take my ranking with a grain of salt.  However, as an individual interested in guaging the trajectory of any given program, these rankings are a significant indicator.    

We've had this conversation 1000 times.  

01/10/2018 - 8:23am Made me think of DPJ against Wisconsin

The thing that really just... ugh... chaps me is the fact that the same basic thing applied to the DPJ touchdown against Wisconsin.  If you went "pixel by pixel" his trail foot hit in-bounds before his lead foot hit out of bounds, but, in that situation there "wasn't enough to overturn the call on the field."  I sort of understood that... they probably didn't want to go down the rabbit hole of frame-by-frame analysis.  I'll accept that hi-def slow mo can sometimes raise more questions than it answers and that you should only take it so far.  But then, last night happens...

I mean, okay, different sports, different refs, etc., that is all absolutely true and I'm not expecting any sort of informational carryover from a football game in November to a basketball game in January, even if it happens to involve the same leage and one of the same institutions.  

But that being said, goddamnit this sucks.

01/04/2018 - 8:38pm Yes.

I won’t say it’s “common” but it’s not uncommon. Under Moeller we had a C/G coach (Les Miles) and a tackles/TE’s coach (Mike DeBord).