A call for calm

Submitted by michgoblue on

I have seen a ton of panic and negativity on this board since Saturday, but I think that if everyone can take a step back, there is a larger picture that explans so much of our struggles this season, and which and might provide a ray of hope.  

It is fairly common after a coaching change for a coach to take a step back in year 3 because the exiting coach almost always recruited poorly during his last year or so (by virtue of being on the hot seat).  As a result, while a new coach often comes into a situation in which he has talented upper classmen on the roster, by year 3, most of those players are gone and there is a gaping hole where the senior and junior talen should be.  

That is precisely what we are going through right now.  For Harbaugh's first two seasons, he was able to somewhat benefit from the upperclassmen that were on the roster from Hoke's first few successful recruiting classes.  Those guys are gone, and in their place, our upperclassmen are made up of Hoke's much weaker last two classes.  Those classes were followed by the disaster of a transition class that resulted from Michigan hiring Harbaugh almost on the eve of National Signing Day.  

Harbaugh is not the first coach to experience initial success, followed by a tough 3rd year.  The same thing happened to Hoke based upon RR's last few classes.  While that may not be comforting, perhaps the following few examples will make everyone feel better:

Dabo Swinney - went 6-7 in his 3rd year, following a 9-5 2nd year.  From year 4 forward, he hasn't won less than 10 games.

Urban Meyer (Florida edition) - following a 13 win national championship season in 2006, the program took a step back in 2007 and only won 9 games.  That 3rd season was an outlier as it was followed by consecutive 13-win seasons in years 4 and 5.

Nick Saban (LSU edition) - followed a 10-win second season with an 8-5 3rd season, only to win 13 games (and a national championship) in year 4.

Nick Saban (Bama edition) - Hist first two full seaons were 12 and 14 wins (with a National Championship in year 2).  In year 3, he took a relative step back to 10 wins, only to follow that with 12 and 13 win season (and 2 more national championships).

Mark Dantonio - after taking MSU to a 9 win second season (which, historically, is a great season for them), Mork went 6-7 in year 3, only to rebound to an 11-2 conference title season in year 4.

A few observations:

1.  Each of those guys is a massive douchebag.  Not necessarily relevant, but it jumps off the page.

2.  Harbaugh may not recover as quickkly in year 4 as these guys because his transition class was really small and weak (not on him), and moreover, his first few classes really whiffed on OL).  

3.  Look at some of the young players on our roster.  Aside from OL, which we need to fix ASAP (and which should resolve itself as our young line matures over the next 2 years), we are STOCKED with young talent.  Unfortunately, this season, that talent is playing against older, stronger, more experienced players who are more fundamentally sound just from being older, stronger and more experienced.  As these guys get older, stronger and more experienced, I think that the sky is the limit for our team.

tl;dr version - everyone chill out; we are really young; coaches struggle in year 3, even great coaches.  history is a guide, will be rebound nicely over the next year or so.

A2MIKE

October 10th, 2017 at 5:55 PM ^

Satan started at Alabama in 2007, went 6-6, made the SEC champ game in year 2 and won it all in year 3. Dabo is literally the only coach to win a NC that didn't occur during or before his third year, going all the way back to Lloyd.

A2MIKE

October 10th, 2017 at 6:18 PM ^

Still, off the top of my head. Stoops 2nd year, Coker 1st year, Tressel 2nd year, Saban 4th year, Carroll 3rd year, Meyer 2nd year, Miles 3rd year, Saban 3rd year, Chizik 2nd year, Meyer year3 with osu. The only exceptions are Mack Brown and Dabo.

Tex_Ind_Blue

October 10th, 2017 at 6:57 PM ^

Ahh, Mr. Coker. Did you realize that he basically sat on the HC seat and that's all? That team would have possibly won without an HC. 

And Chizik. Oh boy, another flame out. Let's stick to some longer term proven commodities, shall we? 

MichiganMan14

October 10th, 2017 at 6:06 PM ^

To lose to Michigan state year after year given the hype and talent advantage. Dantonio and his staff should not be out-developing Michigan's staff....but they are. Calm is winning games against your rivals when you're a double digit favorite. It's not okay to accept mediocrity in the program. Michigan has to decide if we want to win big games and compete for titles or if we want to remain in this state of awe of our head coach. He isn't perfect and has a bad offensive staff that needs to be altered drastically. In year 3 with the talent he has access to...no....there is not anecessary excuse. 365 days until we get our dignity back after losing to an MSU team that had more rapes committed by their players than they had wins last season. Saturday was disgraceful and it's not all on the kids. This Staff can't call plays. Simple and plain. And that included Jim Harbaugh if he is in fact the final say in play calling. He needs to get much better and fast.

corundum

October 10th, 2017 at 6:25 PM ^

It seems like you are in every one of these threads being especially critical of Harbaugh, and even in threads before the MSU game concerning the pseudo-meritocracy. What do you think is the solution to our problems? Obviously he doesn’t have the pieces this year, and thus some plays are going to bust every gane. What would you like to see going forward?

corundum

October 10th, 2017 at 6:51 PM ^

Maybe. He had previously said that O’Korn should have been starting over Speight, and now it’s apparent why Harbaugh preferred Speight. For all we know his beef might be his own personal opinion rather than leaked criticism from Higdon.

MichiganMan14

October 11th, 2017 at 3:13 AM ^

Speight seems the steadier hand and why he won the job to begin with. It's year three guys. How does Coach Harbaugh not have a QB? These kids have been here for 3 and 4 years. They should be humming along now and there isn't an excuse for them not to be. Okorn has not been put in good position to be successful. 35 pass calls in the rain or with a very wet ball was not what we needed. I'm sorry and by no means claiming to be some coaching guru. I am disappointed that we hired the man we thought was greater than the rest and his specialty.....QB is our greatest weakness. I just do see legitimacy in excusing our quarterback play anymore. It's year 3. Our offense collectively has work to do. That includes the backs. All of them. But the line has to be a MICHIGAN line. And we need a MICHIGAN QB. There is no reason why we cannot block and quarterback at an elite level given our resources, advantages and a coach that makes 9mil a year and is a QB guru. It's not adding up and the change I see is in the press box "calling" the plays. Harbaugh is our Coach. He needs to surround himself with better coaches. The entire offense needs to be looked at. If we want a bell cow Najee Harris type back...you had better get an RB Coach with pedigree.

Caesar

October 11th, 2017 at 4:35 AM ^

Before your post, literally every issue you have brought up has been discussed by Brian and/or other contributors to the main page. Take a listen to the Podcast. There's some really interesting back and forth about your topics.

It's healthy and interesting for people to have different opinions or analysis. But you're not even engaging with differing views. In fact, your post shows a complete disregard for them. This is what makes comments like yours particularly frustrating to me. 

MichiganMan14

October 11th, 2017 at 3:06 AM ^

I don't press Karan for information. I care about him above his role on the team. It doesn't take inside info to see what's going on. Karan doesn't complain. He knows he has a job to do. I however see the flaws in play calling, rotation and coaching maneuvers. Many others do as well. We didn't send him up there to NOT play for a seasoned and proven Coach Wheatley and I will openly say I'm gravely disappointed in what happened in that situation. I speak for me on that. Wheatley should still be there and kept owing him personally it pisses me off that he isn't there and why he isn't there. Fisch should also still be there and both coaches were not replaced with viable replacements and the drop off in production is evident.

michfan23

October 10th, 2017 at 6:10 PM ^

So many seem to think that our knee jerk fan reactions actually make a difference in the grand scheme of Michigan Football. The fact is, we are fanatical about Michigan and each one of us wants success for our team. When that doesn’t happen, we go crazy, probably because we can’t do one thing about a loss. Now, we aren’t players, we aren’t coaches, and our obsession is probably unhealthy, but we deeply care and we want better. Sadly, there is nothing we can really do. No one is demanding we find a new head coach, and even if we were, we aren’t in a position to do anything about it. We take to our keyboards and complain, offer hot takes, and generally act depressed until the next win.
Does this rant mean anything? Probably not, but I really don’t feel like being calm. My favorite team, my obsession, and one of the only things that brings me unreasonable amounts of joy in a week lost and looked bad doing it. I’m going to get over it, but the next win can’t come soon enough. I don’t feel like easing off the anger, and at the end of the day, my anger doesn’t have shit to do with anything happening inside the Michigan football program. So, until that next win, you all are going to have to deal with my moaning and groaning. I apologize in advance.

old98blue

October 10th, 2017 at 6:50 PM ^

But success is measured differently by each fan, MSU went to the playoff 2 years ago in a season they nearly lost to every team they played including Rutgers and their fan base was happy until they went 3-9 then there was talk of moving on from Dantonio. This is just what fans do I guess

Everyone Murders

October 10th, 2017 at 6:12 PM ^

We lost one game with a wonky OL and our back-up QB getting his first start against our number two rival.  Turning the ball over five times, and still keeping it within four points.  We are currently 4-1 and ranked in the Top 20.  With one of the youngest teams in the country.  It's just not that bad of a situation.

I don't know what's worse.  Posts like the OP's assuming that we're all apoplectic over this game and in need of the OP's intervention, or the vocal minority of people forecasting doom based on one turnover-laden game that ended in a monsoon. 

Holy Recency Effect, Batman!  It's gonna be OK.  We've got a top defense, a great head coach, great recruiting classes, and lots of young talent.

Guh.

mgoblueben

October 10th, 2017 at 6:11 PM ^

You really want me to believe msu was the older more experienced mature team Saturday? I'm more concerned about the the people telling everyone to calm down than the ones at the cliff. Year 3, at home, against a state team that lost the starters and rising talent from a 3-9 team that experienced more turmoil in the off season that we licked our chops at a 4 score early line? gtfo. I've been a fan since 2008, I think this is all my fault guys. I'll show myself out.

Goggles Paisano

October 10th, 2017 at 6:16 PM ^

Good idea - I have a nice Setiva to help calm me down.  

On a side note, my 9 year old daughter was looking over my shoulder at this thread and said...that's a funny name...carlos spicywiener.  (insert hand slapping forehead emoji).

H8anythingState2

October 10th, 2017 at 6:17 PM ^

This blog is a microcosm of the country right now. “Sky is falling” to the left and “Everything will be fine” to the right.

Every team has problems that need to be addressed. Bottom line is some fixes take longer than others, depending on who is fixing.

Some have all the faith in the world and the rest have none. Balance is key. Have faith while questioning.

And remember, karma is a bitch. Arrogance oozes from this fan base.

State still uses “Little brother” as motivation 10+ years later. Funny when Hart said it. Anyone see the writing on the fucking wall then?

People should stop acting like Michigan deserves anything. We don’t deserve shit, and right now we don’t deserve all of Harbaugh’s hard work.

Fezzik

October 10th, 2017 at 8:35 PM ^

Why do so many here take a sports criticism on a public sports blog as an over the top 'oh you think you know more than coach' reaction? Or a 'sky is falling' reaction? Are people not allowed to have an opinion unless it's pure positivity?

Yessir

October 10th, 2017 at 6:18 PM ^

Anyone want to fight?  Here's my number 867-5309.  I'll give you my address over the phone. 

Fuckers!