Greg Schiano hits bicyclist with car
September 22nd, 2016 at 11:07 PM ^
I laughed at this way harder than I should have.
September 23rd, 2016 at 12:15 AM ^
Having been watching SketcyMicro for a while and this makes total sense to me I barely even noticed it. +1 to you
September 23rd, 2016 at 1:12 AM ^
I never thought I'd see a Sketchy Micro reference on Mgoblog. I raise you a +1.
September 23rd, 2016 at 9:10 AM ^
User icon checks out.
September 23rd, 2016 at 11:32 AM ^
Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus ?
September 22nd, 2016 at 10:42 PM ^
Two of my greatest nemeses: OSU and cyclists. Honestly torn between who I'm pulling for in that crash.
September 22nd, 2016 at 10:55 PM ^
... The cyclist was reported to be a student, presumably at OSU, so...
(But, seriously, I would hope that he's is okay.)
September 22nd, 2016 at 11:43 PM ^
September 23rd, 2016 at 12:30 AM ^
I'm a cyclist. I have been in Detroit, A2, LA and PDX. Never understood the angst. Yes bad cyclists are a nuisance, but bad drivers are deadly.
So is bad pavement. I'm day 3 after surgical reconstruction of my AC joint!!!
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September 23rd, 2016 at 5:55 AM ^
of road users. they blow off stop signs like they are unworthy suggestions to the pedaling crowd, ride 20 mph, 2 abreast (a violation of law in michigan and most other places) in your 55 mph country highways, and have those indignant stares when folks go past them on the road - like they figure if they're on the road all other drivers need to put the cyclists in a traffic bubble. i believe the statistics show that cyclists are far more likely to be at fault for car/bike collisions, but i'm not going to google that just now.
of course there are some idiot car/truck drivers around cyclists too, so it is a 2-way street (pun intended) in that regard, but i still think the cyclists are more often than not the problem.
September 23rd, 2016 at 8:06 AM ^
September 23rd, 2016 at 8:24 AM ^
We used have this group of wealthy, geriatic bike riders come into the panara I worked at in College. Let's just say that they were all wearing bicycling outfits that left little to the imagination. They Jackasses would stand by the door, drinking coffee, attempting to show off their wrinkled genitalia (the tights they wore might as well been cellophane) to whomever walked in.
There ain't no driver responsible for bycylist outfits.
September 23rd, 2016 at 8:41 AM ^
September 23rd, 2016 at 11:41 AM ^
In my experience, most bicyclists I see riding around in Oakland or San Francisco ride like complete jackasses, with no regard for traffic laws. Most drivers I see stop at stop at red lights and stop signs and generally follow traffic laws. The difference is that there are many more drivers on the roads than bicyclists.
September 23rd, 2016 at 9:08 AM ^
This argument is not well crafted, sir.
EDIT: This was meant to be in response to Melanin.
September 23rd, 2016 at 10:23 AM ^
People (generalizing here) tend to focus on the most egregious, least sympathetic examples of a certain population to justify shitty and hostile behavior towards the whole group.
September 23rd, 2016 at 8:53 AM ^
cyclist in large part because a lot of car drivers have an unstated or unconscious belief that the roads are really only for cars and that cylists should not get in their way, or at least have limited road use rights that are/should be subordiate to the rights to auto drivers.
This is, of course, a total misconception of the law, but a lot of drivers still believe it.
There are, in fact, cyclists who do dumb and dangerous things out there.
But there are more drivers out there doing dumb and dangerous things. Every time I drive I see terrible drivers doing stupid things that put others' lives at risk. Every time. In a thirty minute commute, I will see at least 15 examples of bad driving.
But this sort of stuff from drivers is so common that it becomes part of the background expectation and norm. Most don't even think twice about it. It is just 'normal' and. therefore, not questioned. Dog bites man.
But if a cyclist does something stupid, then a double standard applies and people become outraged. Many presume that the bikers really should not even be out there in the road, or at least have subordinate rights to road use after cars. So if a car driver does something stupid it is just an unquestioed common thing. No big deal. But if a cyclist does something stupid, a different standard applies.
September 23rd, 2016 at 8:56 AM ^
September 23rd, 2016 at 8:09 PM ^
the cyclist that do not obey the same laws as vehicles. here in florida we have packs of them every morning pretenting they are training for the tour de france when its just their reason to wear spandex @ 40 years of age. they have a false entitlement that they have the right of way despite red lights and stop signs.as a yuut i was taught to look both ways before crossing that apllies to bicycles as well, imho.
September 22nd, 2016 at 10:52 PM ^
i feel like i need to comment here: I WAS NOT DRUNK SEXTING WHILE DRIVING.
September 22nd, 2016 at 10:55 PM ^
September 22nd, 2016 at 11:23 PM ^
pokemon go, right?
September 23rd, 2016 at 6:56 AM ^
That is a different deal entirely, man. I was walking back to my car after a site meeting down in Monroe a few weeks ago and had to stop some kid from walking right across Telegraph while staring at the Pokemon landscape on his phone. I can't even imagine trying to play that game while operating a moving vehicle - self-propelled or otherwise - although I am sure someone has.
September 22nd, 2016 at 10:52 PM ^
September 22nd, 2016 at 11:08 PM ^
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September 22nd, 2016 at 11:38 PM ^
Cyclists are vehicles, according to Ohio law, with all the same rights and obligations as drivers.
September 23rd, 2016 at 6:23 AM ^
As far as I know, everywhere I've ever lived considered bicycles to be vehicles, and almost universally riding on the sidewalk is illegal.
September 23rd, 2016 at 10:30 AM ^
...but more often than not, you are correct.
September 23rd, 2016 at 10:36 AM ^
I've actually never heard of local law differing from that standard anywhere. It seems hard to justify.
September 23rd, 2016 at 10:54 AM ^
...riding a bicycle on a sidewalk is legal in Santa Monica and the City of Los Angeles, but illegal in Beverly Hills. It varies here on a city by city basis, which was also my experience living in the NE.
September 23rd, 2016 at 9:11 AM ^
Same obligations? Maybe bicyclists should have to pay for licensing and registration then, just like automobile drivers.
September 23rd, 2016 at 11:11 AM ^
Because hit and runs are an enormous issue with cyclists? Because high speed chases where bicycles elude police cars are so common? Because although road construction and maintenance is largely funded by property and sales taxes, cyclists should pay even more to subsidize the damage to roads caused by cars?
Yeah, not really any of those. Licensing and registration are requirements for cars for specific reasons, not because anyone that uses the public way in any manner needs to be licensed. You will note that we do not license and register pedestrians for all of the same reasons.
September 23rd, 2016 at 3:57 PM ^
So, according to you, hit and runs and high-speed chases are the only reasons that we have registration and licensing?
I wasn't even being that serious when I made the comment, but now, I'm thinking about it more and more. What if there's a bicyclist that keeps causing serious auto accidents on the roadway, week after week, year after year? Nothing happens that can suspend or revoke his "riding on the road" privileges. But if it's done in an auto, he can be ticketed to the point that his license will be revoked.
I don't have a dog in either fight - i've seen some shitty drivers and bicyclists that have no regard for others on the road.
September 23rd, 2016 at 4:40 PM ^
September 23rd, 2016 at 9:10 AM ^
A fellow Daytonian. Neato.
September 23rd, 2016 at 10:24 AM ^
Except cyclists aren't supposed to use the sidewalks and crosswalks.
September 22nd, 2016 at 10:55 PM ^
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September 22nd, 2016 at 11:37 PM ^
I guess "disaster" depends on how much you value those who ride bicycles where there are cars...
September 23rd, 2016 at 12:09 AM ^
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September 23rd, 2016 at 5:58 AM ^
the law requires that they be on the right-most part of the travel lane except to effect a turn. i believe it is similar in most other jurisdictions.
September 23rd, 2016 at 6:36 AM ^
The law states:
A person operating a bicycle upon a highway or street at less than the existing speed of traffic shall ride as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except as follows
(a) "When overtaking and passing another bicycle or any other vehicle proceeding in the same direction."(b) "When preparing to turn left."(c) "When conditions make the right-hand edge of the roadway unsafe or reasonably unusable by bicycles, including, but not limited to, surface hazards, an uneven roadway surface, drain openings, debris, parked or moving vehicles or bicycles, pedestrians, animals, or other obstacles, or if the lane is too narrow to permit a vehicle to safely overtake and pass a bicycle."(d) "When operating a bicycle in a lane in which thetraffic is turning right but the individual intends to go straight through the intersection."(e) "When operating a bicycle upon a 1-way highway or street that has 2 or more marked traffic lanes, in which case the individual may ride as near the left-hand curb or edge of that roadway as practicable."
I don't know about you, but I don't find cars passing me in my lane to be "practicable" or safe. Consider if you would make the same maneuver if the bike were a motorcycle instead. Or put yourself in the cyclists shoes. How would you feel about someone passing you in your lane?
There is definitely wiggle room there for the cyclist to do everything they feel necessary to be safe. If I'm in a road that has two lanes in my direction, i will ride with enough distance from the curb that my only safe option will never be to swerve left, which usually requires 3 feet or so. But if someone passes me within striking distance, I will take up enough of the lane that future passers have to acknowledge my existence, usually right in the middle. If drivers are being more aggressive, I feel it is even more important to use aggressive lane positioning to protect myself from them and increase my visibility. If I'm going 25 in a 35, and someone misjudges the distance or just doesn't me, any hit would likely be fatal.
September 23rd, 2016 at 7:06 AM ^
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September 23rd, 2016 at 8:16 AM ^