This is actually a really good question.
Actually, it's not.
Both are bad, one is far worse.
It's a lot closer than you think. FIFA got caught being criminally corrupt, but the NCAA has been systemically and systematically corrupt for years. They haven't been caught breaking any laws, but they basically get away without paying their workers, who happen to be kids who cant do anything to fight back. Any player who does have the nerve to say he deserves the money is swatted down like a fly.
The bowl system was among the most corrupt consortium in sports. It was the bowls and their payments to NCAA officials in the form of luxurious "perks" that kept us from having a real championship game and then playoffs for so long.
Their so-called "enforcment" of rules regarding recruiting are more like the Armed Forces' old "don't ask, don't tell" policy. The only time a big team gets punished is if there is a "smoking gun" that is so blatant the NCAA has to do something. However, the little guy always gets maximum punishment.
The corruption of the NCAA, especially when it comes to uneven enforcement of rules, is perfecly described in a line I believe I saw on MGoBlog first. When UK committed what looked like a violation, someone said, "Western Kentucky is going get hammered for that."
SMU got the "death penalty" for paying players during the CJK5H era. UNC's academic scandal is much worse than what happened at SMU. Does anyone really think UNC is going to get a punishment that is anywhere near the "death penalty?"
FIFA is more corrupt, but the NCAA isn't nearly as far behind as it may appear.
100%
All other FIFA extensive corruption aside, the organization has actual blood on their hands.
April 10th, 2016 at 12:13 AM ^
Well, one organization is working slaves to death. The other just passed an unfair rule that will limit the opportunities of some young people.
Both are bad in the way that flipping someone off and murdering a person are both bad.
Amen to this...FIFA takes money from crooks. NCAA makes money on our youth.
"Taking" versus "making"?
Sounds like "legislation" is then the only difference.
Hopefully that always stays in the hands of the many people, and not the concentrated power of the few! (ooops!)
FIFA for sure. But that doesn't negate the NCAA's wrong-doings. FIFA is world-wide, orders of magnitude bigger than the NCAA. Global-scale corruption is always more egregious/high-stakes than a single country (that's historical).
when you make up the rules.
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You might be right, but I'd like to see them tabulated. And you'd have to add the local guys in plaid sportcoats who drive away from the Diddles Cuddly Peejays Bowls in Outer Keokuk chuckling to themselves at the end of every year. And the Brandons. We might be surprised--in some poor Third World country it may be just one guy coming away with a few hundred thous. Jury is still out on this one.
Not even close. But you forgot some
FIFA>PUTIN>NFL>CHINA>PANAMA>NCAA
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then the IOC. I'm not sure if the NCAA is as corrupt as it is downright incompetent in most aspects.
Yeah, I was thinking FIFA hands down, with the IOC as a close runner-up. I would also agree with another poster that the NCAA leads all in hypocrisy.
John Oliver, a pretty decent and rational comedian, has talked at length about FIFA and it's corruption, for anyone who wants to become a little more knowledgeable and get a few chuckles. Hopefully I can embed this correctly, it's my first try.
Hopefully this embed goes better?
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If you have a problem with the decisions, criticisms should be directed at specific schools or conferences that voted against satellite camps...not against some vague NCAA entity.
If you want to start a thread like this, complaints should be about the SEC, the Sun Belt, the MWC and the other conferences that voted against it. It has been very well reported as to who voted against: "Source told @ESPN conferences that voted against satellite camps: ACC, Big 12, SEC, Pac-12, MWC, Sun Belt. In favor: B1G, AAC, C-USA, MAC"
With alot of these issues, we hear coaches and schools complain about the "NCAA"...it makes little sense to me as the schools are the NCAA and the schools are the ones (or sometimes the conferences are) makng the decisions.
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The NCAA is a separate outside body. It is not the same thing as the schools themselves. The schools are members of the NCAA. You are right though in that the individual schools should be held responsible for some of these stupid rules.
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No. The NCAA is the collective voice and arm of the universities. It doesn't exist outside of the university context. Jim Hackett was part of the NCAA, and I laugh at the OP for thinking that you could even call Jim Hackett corrupt, let alone wonder whether Jim Hackett was as corrupt as FIFA.
Some Michigan fans need to untwist their undies and look at the facts, not the myths they have created for themselves. The NCAA does what the schools (inclufding Michigan) and the conferences (including the Big Ten) tell it.
The best way to get rid of the NCAA is to eliminate all intercollegiate sports above the club level. Then you don't need any central authority to coordinate the rules; clubs can decde the rules they play under on a case-by-case basis, just like they did before conferences. You could just have a bunch of conferences with their own rules, and forget about interconference play, but going the club route is cheaper and desn't create the potential for corrupt conferences.
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They use the argument that "since it’s a sports organization it has no legal duty to protect college athletes."
Fucking bunch of hypocriticizers.
They uise the argument that they have no legal authority to determie what schools must do to carry out the schools' medical responsibilities to their players. And they are correct.
Fucking bunch of whiners about the NCAA. The NCAA is like every organization everywhere: "we are dumber collectively than any of us are individually." People need to get some steel in their spine and learn to live with the world as it is. Organizations that don't make mistakes and don't limit their liability don't exist.
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For those that are interested, as well as a longer video(20 minutes) of him blasting the NCAA