Can Coach Beilein Survive Another Season Like This?
we are a step below of what you describe and headed in the wrong direction.
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You are okay with a boring program for awhile??
Lord almighty, the University of Michigan should be a consistent winner in college basketball. There should never be any doubt that this team gets into the tournament. You can't have seasons like this after 2013 and 2014, back to back.
And is there hope in sight? Do the recruits coming in get you excited?
For fuck's sake, I didn't mean boring as a compliment. Both extremes on this debate seem ridiculous to me -- the "fire Beilein now" crowd and the "Beilein gets to retire on his terms no matter what happens" crowd. It's okay not to take the most extreme possible position and use the most extreme possible language sometimes.
This is the absolute worst comment on any topic in the history of the internet.
absolutely no excuse for yesterday with a week to prepare. You would have thought Uthoff came out of nowhere with the way the D played him. He torched us the first game, but obviously no adjustments were made.
Happy with 10-8 going 2-8 against the 7 teams above us in the BIG. 8-0 against the rest of the league which contained only one team with an overall winning record, Northwestern. Every loss this year by double digits but one. Numerous games where effort was questionable at best. Getting run out of your own building by your in state rival.
Coach B is a great guy but a terrible recruiter. I'm looking forward to the next coach whenever it happens.
We really need to be a tire fire or a cheater for change to occur? Apathy is the worst. I don't want boring, especially in basketball.
Isn't that what Indiana and Purdue thought last year?
Every B1G regular season contributor is back. There's hope for collective, across-the-board marginal improvement as well as a Donnal-like late-bloomer leap. By eligibility:
Player PPG Class Stars(Rivals)
Rising Seniors
Derrick Walton 12.3 2013 ****
Zak Irvin 11.3 2013 *****
Rising Juniors
Duncan Robinson 11.1 2014 ???
Mark Donnal* 8.0 2013 ****
MAAR 7.6 2014 ***
Aubrey Dawkins 7.3 2014 ***
Ricky Doyle 4.1 2014 ***
DJ Wilson 3.0 2014 ****
Kam Chatman 2.8 2014 ****
Rising Sophomore
Mo Wagner 2.6 2015 ****
Big leaps are out there for Dawkins (C'Mong, Man, Play Some D), Wagner, and hopefully Wilson and Chatman.
*I think Donnal has earned a 5th year
Yes, we should certainly assume that none of them will improve year over year.
So, with all of that experience coming back, we should EXPECT better next year, correct and not just hope? There is a difference between hope and expectations. These are all Beilein's guys that are upperclassmen, so we should expect very good things next year. My goodness people, raise the bar a little at least..
I'd say it goes three great, two okay and three bad with this year undecided. We won two big ten titles and went to the NCAA Tournament final in another year, so that's three great years.
than HOPE, and yes, we should EXPECT better next year.
I was replying to lbpeley on his terms who stated we shouldn't even have hope.
Not sure why people are so disappointed with this season, if you take the injuries into account.
You remove a player in Caris who many project as All American, 1st round draft pick AND Spike who has been chronically underestimated in value and still finish 10-8 in the Big 10 isn't all that bad.
What would happen to any team if you took away their best player for the entire Big10 season? Take Valentine off Sparty. Trimble off Maryland....etc.
Beilein will retire on his own terms from Michigan.
And why do you assume they are out of the NCAA?
I think he has done a great job. It doesn't change the fact that it is boring. It isn't fun basketball to watch and defense should be a priority. I love the threes but we need to get a rebound too. Feast or famine currently.
I'm sorry I thought we still had more basketball to play. Hard to project what "another season like this" looks like when THIS season isnt over yet.
But based on how much leash Red has been given in deciding when to hang it up I would have to say yes, he could survive it if it ends badly. I'm not comparing their aggregate contributions to Michigan athletics but it would seem that, outside of football we place a higher premium on the coach himself than results on the field. And like Red, Beilein is a highly ethical, principled man of honor who is highly respected by his peers and well thought of inside the University as a whole.
They just doesnt win as many games as they used to.
Yes it is.
You said it's not being used as an excuse and then proceed to use it as an excuse in the next sentence.
It is absolutely being used as an excuse.
There's a pretty big difference between "injured at some point" and "missing for the whole damn season."
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What "built in advantages" does Michigan have?
Nope
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