Upon Further Review 2015: Offense vs Utah Comment Count

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FORMATION NOTES: Where the defense alternated between basically two setups, the offense was a smorgasbord of stuff ranging from five wide…

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…to unbalanced goal line packages…

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To this, which I called "offset Maryland I":

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FWIW, I filed Poggi as a tight end in the table.

PERSONNEL NOTES: Rudock your QB. Line was Cole/Braden/Glasgow/Kalis/Magnuson the whole way except for a few snaps on which Logan Tuley-Tillman came in to play tackle that used Mason Cole as an inline tight end (who can't go downfield).

Butt played almost every snap—maybe every single one. There was a lot of rotation aside from him. Henry Poggi got the most time as an H-back; Kerridge was your traditional fullback. Williams got the most time other than Butt as an inline TE. We saw a little bit of Hill and Bunting.

WR was mostly Darboh and Chesson on the outside, with Harris rotating in. Perry played in the slot, sometimes in twins formations in which there were two TEs.

Smith was the main back with Isaac getting maybe 20% of the snaps behind him. Green and Taylor-Douglas got a few snaps each.

[After THE JUMP: throwing guys in the wrong direction.]

Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Type Play Player Yards
M25 1 10 I-Form Big 2 2 1 4-5 even Run Iso Smith 1
Nowhere to go. Butt(-0.5) doesn't get any movement on the playside end and can't kick him out; Kalis(+0.5) does a decent job to get a little push; Smith can't go through the original gap. Braden(-1) lost his guy to the inside even after getting help from Glasgow; Smith gets nailed by an unblocked LB and that dude.
M26 2 9 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 4-3 even Pass Flare Smith 6
Not a good decision from Rudock as he has Chesson open on a hitch and this is thoroughly covered. No pressure, Rudock just bails. Smith(+2) turns a minimal gain into a nice chunk by dodging one guy and then spinning through a chaotic tackle attempt from three different Utes. (BR, 3, protection 2/2)
M32 3 3 Shotgun empty TE 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass Out Butt 4
Bunting, Harris, Perry, Smith and Butt your skill guys. Surprise: it goes to Butt. This is a tough conversion with a safety sitting right on the route but Rudock throws it low and Butt digs it out. (CA, 2, protection 1/1, RPS -1)
M36 1 10 I-Form 2 1 2 4-3 under Pass Hitch Butt Inc
Safety again comes down late and sets up in Butt's face as he sits down for a quick pitch and catch throw. Protection again fine; Rudock throws a dangerous pass that has very little upside. Isaac is coming open coming out of the backfield. (BR, 0, protection 2/2)
M36 2 10 Ace trips tight bunch 1 3 1 4-3 even Run Sweep Isaac 5 + 15 pen
I'm filing Hill and Poggi as TEs FWIW. Michigan gets to the LOS quickly and snaps as Utah has some confusion in their alignment. They've got this for a nice gain. Nobody gets any blocks. Poggi(-1) and Cole get split by a guy neither tries to block; Isaac(+1) breaks that tackle. Hill(-0.5) and Butt(-1) get initial blocks but both get discarded. Glasgow(+1) has pulled around; he smartly picks one of those guys off. Second guy takes Isaac down. RPS +2; this should have been Isaac versus a safety for six points. Dumb PI tacks on 15.
O44 1 10 Ace 3-wide 1 1 3 4-3 over Penalty False start Cole -5
Cole -1.
O49 1 15 I-Form 1 3 1 Nickel even Run Power O Smith -1
Motion from a diamond formation to a covered TE I-form. Utah with eight guys in the box; they slant away from the play. This is playing to “spill” power, or send the back into an unblocked guy on the outside. Poggi(-1) airballs on the slanting DE. Kalis(-1) futilely goes in the hole that does not exist. Smith gets buried. RPS -1.
50 2 16 Ace twins 1 3 1 ??? Pass Seam? Butt 24
I don't know what to call this route. It's an out-breaking seam-ish thing from Butt that sits down at about 15 yards on the opposite hash. Williams, lined up in the slot, is running a similar route a few yards outside; this opens up a small gap that Rudock nails. Kalis(-2) had gotten shed by a DE and Rudock took a big hit. (DO+, 3, protection 0/2)
O26 1 10 Offset Maryland I 1 2 1 4-3 under Run Power O Smith 4
LTT at LT, with Cole a highly nominal tight end on the other side of the line. Braden(+1) blows out the nose tackle and Kalis pulls just around him on a play headed direct for the A gap. LTT(-0.5) does an eh job, not getting any depth and allowing his blocker to shed and constrict space. This cuts off any outside hole as well; two guys with just Kalis on the interior. Smith(+0.5) gets hit at two and manages to anger out a couple more.
O22 2 6 Offset Maryland I 1 2 1 4-3 even Run Double Iso Smith 1
Ugly, ugly. Kalis(-2) gets submarined and ends up two yards in the backfield; Smith has to cut back. Braden loses his guy somewhat but keeps connected and keeps driving, so Smith has a cutback.. that gets pounded. LTT(-2) is pretty understandably expecting to kick out here and ends up whiffing entirely. If he gets even a meh block like Braden did, Smith gets the edge and is against a corner for a nice gain. Kerridge(+1) pancaked a LB, FWIW.
O21 3 5 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass Out Perry INT
Isaac split, Perry at RB. Perry runs a route that really looks like an out until it suddenly isn't; Rudock throws the out. (not charted, 3, protection 2/2, Perry -2 route)
Drive Notes: Interception, 0-3, 6 min 1st Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Type Play Player Yards
M45 1 10 I-Form Big 2 2 1 4-3 even Run Off tackle zone? Smith 0
Another play that clearly should work and Michigan biffs most of the blocking. Kerridge(+1) gets an authoritative cut on a DE M lets go. Braden(+1) turns a DT inside well. Drake Harris(-1) gets a weak cut on a corner who pops right back up. Butt and Cole are leading out, with Butt ahead and to the outside; Cole(-2) completely airballs on a linebacker, who does what Peppers does to screens in the second half. Butt(-1) did not ID a second level defender to block. Glasgow(-0.5) also couldn't cut his guy, not that it mattered. He did at least bother him. RPS +1.
M45 2 10 Shotgun empty TE 2 2 1 Base 3-4 Pass TE circle Butt 6
Rudock gets swamped at Braden(-1) and Cole(-1) both lose blocks; he's got to get rid of it. DB in decent coverage but bites slant and then can't quite recover; does tackle. Utah not really sure what to do with this formation. (CA+, 2, protection 0/2)
O49 3 4 Ace trips tight bunch 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass TE flat Butt 3
Rudock is throwing this all the way off the snap after M motions Butt around into a spot where he's neither really an H back or a fullback. There's no bump or rub here; maybe Perry is open deeper but I think he has a safety coming over the top of him. I don't know what this seeks to accomplish. (CA, 3, protection 1/1, RPS -1)
Drive Notes: Punt, 0-3, 2 min 1st Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Type Play Player Yards
O41 1 10 I-Form Big 2 2 1 4-5 even Pass Out and up Chesson Inc
First biff, as Chesson (route +2) absolutely blows by the DB for a shoulda-touchdown. Live I thought this was real bad, on replay I thought this was real bad, in the presser on Monday an apparently entirely candid Jim Harbaugh said Chesson slowed up, and if you watch it in that context there is a moment or two in which he's cruising. I think he should cruise. He's torched this guy so badly that cruising keeps you away from the back of the endzone. It also takes this ball a yard past Chesson. But still, if you miss here miss short fergodsakes. (IN, 0, protection 2/2)
O41 2 10 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel over Pass Flash screen Darboh 28
Hooray for not being a damn idiot. M catches a slot blitz and the flash action gets them a big gain as Perry(+1) chops the dickens out of the outside CB and Darboh(+1) outruns a safety. (CA, 3, screen, RPS +1)
O13 1 10 Goal line unbalanced 2 2 0 Base 3-4 Run Power O Smith 1
Line, L to R: LTT, Cole, Mags, Braden, Glasgow, Kalis, Butt. OK. Kalis does another one of those pulls where he goes around and gets in the first hole shaped thing he sees. Doesn't work, as Butt(-1) mis-ided his man, blocking an end when there's an overhang LB he needs to hit. Kalis executes a tight pull that doesn't do anything except wad up some bodies; Smith cuts to an open bit that has unblocked guys in it; backside DE hews him down. Utah playing to spill consistently and M keeps thrusting OL away from that. RPS -1. Ok. Kalis(-1) must have screwed this up, as everyone on the OL is blasting guys on downblocks; there's no hint of a wedge inside.
O12 2 9 Goal line unbalanced 2 2 0 4-4 even Run Power O Smith 1
Same exact thing with an inverted line. Same result. More frustrating this time as it's the same thing that just failed to work. Cole(-1) gets ripped inside, but he's dealing with a guy who lined up inside of him and is already fighting to this A gap. I want Braden(-1) to see this and head another gap out because I've seen Harbaugh's Stanford teams execute this time and again; instead he just plows into a mass of bodies. Smith cuts outside into that gap and gets destroyed. Poggi(+1) got a nice kickout, though. RPS -1
O11 3 8 Shotgun trips TE 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass Tunnel screen Cole -2
Zeo safeties, guy on the interior looking for this all the way, Cole no chance to get out on him. (CA, 3, screen, RPS -1)
Drive Notes: FG(30), 3-3, 14 min 2nd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Type Play Player Yards
M25 1 10 Ace 1 2 2 4-4 even Penalty Illegal snap Glasgow -5
Glasgow -1.
M20 1 15 Ace 1 2 2 4-3 even Pass Smoke Chesson 8
Changing my terminology here because “smoke route” is shorter, more common, and cooler. DB lined up eight yards off on a hash, so Chesson has ample time to grab the ball and run outside for a bit for a free-ish eight yards. (CA, 3, screen, RPS +1)
M28 2 7 Ace twins twin TE 1 2 2 4-3 even Run Power O Smith 5
Glasgow(+1) gets a good extended sealing block on the backside that will become relevant since Williams(-1) fired out late and got pushed a yard into the backfield. Braden(+0.5) pulls but has to work around it; Williams's guy fills the hole. Smith(+1) cuts back behind and finds some yardage because Mags(+1) blew a DT off the ball with some help from Kalis.
M33 3 2 Ace twins twin TE 1 2 2 4-3 over Pass Seam Williams Inc
This is ridiculously obvious PI that the refs ignore. Williams is running his route; DB sits on him and obstructs his route. Refs -2. (not charted, 0, protection 2/2)
Drive Notes: Punt, 3-10, 9 min 2nd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Type Play Player Yards
M20 1 10 Ace 4-wide 2 0 3 Nickel even Run FB dive Kerridge 5
No gap up the middle but Braden(+0.5) and Cole(+0.5) do end up battering a DT to the ground. It's just to the inside, is all. Kerridge(+0.5) has to cut in back of that. He gets chopped down by unblocked EMLOS.
M25 2 5 Ace twins twin TE 1 2 2 4-3 even Run Power O Smith 2
This is a bad cut by Smith. Butt's guy fights inside. Not much he can do about it. He goes down as Braden(+0.5) and Cole(+0.5) blow up a DT, with Cole taking out that guy's leg. Kalis(+0.5) manages to scrape over the top of this to end up in the right hole. Doesn't matter much, as Poggi(-1) flared wide and then turned around to go hit a linebacker that Kalis is also hitting. He should go get the overhang corner, probably. But the bigger problem is Smith(-1), who reacts way later than Kalis does to the traffic and runs right upfield too quick, exposing himself to backside pursuit. That pursuit happened because Glasgow got rolled up on from behind by the big blowout block. Not going to make a deal out of that; if Smith hits this hole as fast as Kalis does he probably bowls over the LB for near first down yardage.
M27 3 3 Shotgun twins twin TE 1 2 2 4-3 even Pass TE Out Butt 4
Rhythm pitch and catch. Williams blows up a guy trying to chuck him in what is probably the most physical moment of his career. (CA, 3, protection 1/1)
M31 1 10 I-Form 3-wide 1 1 3 4-4 under Pass Smoke Darboh 12
Eight guys in the box with CB 8 off: smoke. Darboh(+1) avoids a tackle for a first down. (CA, 3, screen, RPS +1)
M43 1 10 Shotgun twins twin TE 1 2 2 4-3 even Pass Fly Chesson Inc
Excellent protection, both Chesson and Darboh are open; Rudock just misses. (IN, 0, protection 2/2)
M43 2 10 Shotgun twins twin TE 1 2 2 4-3 even Pass Deep out Perry INT
This is open; Rudock airmails it to a DB. (INX, 0, protection 2/2)
Drive Notes: Interception, 3-10, 5 min 2nd Q
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Type Play Player Yards
M31 1 10 Shotgun 2-back TE 2 1 2 4-3 under Run Inside zone Smith -1
Braden(-2) chucked away by the DT; he falls forward and DT has a free run at the backfield. Kalis(+0.5) got some push on the other guy but it's for naught; the backside cut was probably going to get some yards as M ran a zone read fake with Isaac and Rudock. I do kind of wish M would just double Braden's guy for a long time and hope to get enough movement to pick off a LB.
M30 2 11 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Run Slice IZ Green 2
Kalis(-3) picked up and literally hurled into the backfield. Green has to pick his side of this way too early and ends up going frontside when a backside cut again seems there, but hard to blame him. Braden does an eh job, getting no push but staying on his guy; Cole(-0.5) lost his kickout but after a long time. DE initiates a tackle.
M32 3 9 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel under Pass Out Perry Inc (Pen +5)
Utah offsides. Rudock sits back and throws an out that's a yard in front of the sticks. It's not a good throw, dying as it gets there and taking Perry off his feet; Perry should still catch it but does not. (MA, 2, protection 2/2)
M37 3 4 Shotguntwins twin TE 1 2 2 Nickel even press Pass TE out Williams Inc
LB in Williams's pocket, because AJ Williams can't cope with man coverage from a linebacker. All short routes, all covered, this is somehow Rudock's best option. (CA, 0, protection 1/1, Williams route -, RPS -1)
Drive Notes: Punt, 3-10, 2 min 2nd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Type Play Player Yards
M25 1 10 I-Form Big 2 2 1 4-4 even Run Power O Smith 0
Braden(-2) hurled to the ground by the playside DT. If this block gets made this may actually get some yards. Poggi(-1) got submarined by the DT, who makes life difficult for everyone else but Kerridge(+1) finds and blasts a DB who's coming in hot; Kalis finds a linebacker and makes contact somewhat gingerly because he has to tiptoe through a mess of limbs if he's not going to trip; push. Smith gets buried.
M25 2 10 Ace 1 2 2 4-3 even Pass Waggle TE flat Bunting 12
Gift from the WLB as he aimlessly tracks to the frontside of the play and leaves this wide open on second and ten. Utah UFR guy just gave him -2. (CA, 3, protection N/A)
M37 1 10 I-Form 3-wide tight 2 1 2 4-3 even Run Pitch sweep Smith 7
Butt lined up a couple yards away from the end of the line as a slot WR; Utah slides its linebackers over. This is a sweep type formation with a WR barely outside of Butt; it's a sweep. Cole(-1) gets ripped under; Glasgow(+0.5) makes an adjustment to blow that guy up. Butt(+1) gets an initial block on the DE that he spins away from chaotically; Butt follows and bumps him, helping opening up the hole that does develop. Braden(+0.5) kicks a DT; DT helped. Poggi(-1) airballs on a linebacker who changes direction as Smith(+1) cuts inside; Smith runs through that leg tackle and spins through another one for a nice chunk of YAC. Darboh(+1) didn't take the slant bait and went and found a guy as well.
M44 2 3 I-Form 2 1 2 4-4 even Pass Scramble Rudock 4
Very token PA fake to nobody doesn't get anyone to bite because it is to nobody. DE briefly flashes by Cole but Kerridge is there to cut him off; Rudock starts moving up in the pocket. It's a good pocket, probably because this is a two man route; Rudock is immediately thinking run and gets a first down. (SCR, N/A, protection 2/2)\
M48 1 10 I-Form twins 2 2 1 4-3 even Run Iso Isaac 4
Butt your slot. M doubles the NT for a while, getting movement with Braden(+0.5) and Glasgow(+0.5). Kerridge(+0.5) gets a good pop on a LB; Cole(-0.5) had a meh kick and Kalis(-0.5) doesn't do much to delay the other DT; he's neither setting up to deal with that guy exclusively or moving to the second level. Isaac(-0.5) should hammer it straight up where the play wants him to go but instead bounces it a gap outside into Cole's dude. He pounds out some YAC but I think he cost himself a couple yards.
O48 2 6 Ace 1 2 2 4-3 even Pass Waggle TE flat Williams 1
This is open; Williams delays the DE for a bit and then gets in his route. DE runs at Rudock; Rudock gets cut off. He tries a jump pass that Williams digs out for a yard. (IN, 1, protection N/A)
O47 3 5 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass Drag Darboh 16
I can't tell if this pump fake from Rudock was indecision or a productive decision to move a linebacker. It does move a linebacker; Rudock reloads and nails Darboh for a a first down. With linebackers moving to what looked like a hitch on the sideline Darboh now has opportunity for YAC and a chunk play. Braden(-1) got dumped in Rudock's lap as he throws this, but at least he's still connected. (DO, 3, protection 2/2)
O31 1 10 Ace 1 2 2 4-3 under Pass Smoke Chesson 5
This one is a bit upfield and that probably costs M a yard or two, but not severe enough to MA. (CA, 3, protection N/A, RPS +1)
O26 2 5 I-Form Big 2 2 1 4-4 even Pass Wheel Smith Inc
Poggi(-2) motions to the backside and sets up to block the DE who normally gets in the waggle's face. He does this very badly. Rudock gets immediate pressure when getting the edge here means he's got two excellent options downfield or could just run it; he tries a bad idea shot at a wheel throwback to Smith that was a potential winner if given time. This is not a good idea; throw it away. (BR, 0, protection 0/2)
O26 3 5 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Okie zero Pass Slant Darboh Inc
Good route from Darboh(+) gets him open. Rudock hits him tiny bit low but not that difficult, Darboh can't bring it in. Big drop. (CA, 3, protection 1/1).
Drive Notes: Missed FG(44), 3-10, 10 min 3rd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Type Play Player Yards
M25 1 10 Ace twins 1 2 2 4-3 even Pass Waggle circle Darboh 5
Waggle; Butt the lone blocker on DE pressure guy. Darboh open short. Utah makes an immediate tackle. (CA, 3, protection 1/1)
M30 2 5 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Run Power O Smith 5
There is a pretty big-ass cutback lane here as the backside DE blows upfield. Glasgow is down-blocking, though, and this DT could blow upfield if Smith tries it. Frontside is jammed all to hell as Butt(-1) gets blown back. Braden doesn't even have an option to go around. Smith(+1) should almost certainly cut back now but instead heads around that into unblocked dudes. But he runs through one tackle and stiffarms the face off a second dude to plow forward to the first down. Glasgow(+1); Magnuson(+0.5); Kalis(+0.5).
M35 3 IN I-Form Big 2 2 1 6-2 tight Run QB sneak Rudock 1
They get it.
M36 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel over Pass Improv Perry Inc
Decent pocket until Butt(-1) gets shed and Rudock has to flush out of the pocket. He's running away from his throwing arm so he has to throw across his body. He finds Perry about 20 yards downfield but can't quite get it there. Tough, tough throw. (MA, 0, protection ½). Braden gets an illegal man downfield call for barely getting downfield. I guess it's good they're calling it tight?
M36 2 10 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass Power O Smith 5
Hey this actually looks kind of like it should. Kalis(+1) and Magnuson(+1) club playside DT with Magnuson getting out to a linebacker. Braden pulls to the other LB and hits him; he lined up right on the LOS, though, and he is able to close it down. Braden's block is a stalemate that's okay but does let the LB to he back from the side. Smith drags it a bit.
M41 3 5 Shotgun 2-back 2 1 2 4-3 under Pass Comeback Darboh 13
Utah gets super aggressive here and it's unfortunate Michigan doesn't have something else on. This is man press with both safeties six yards off the LOS; Utah sends the house and Darboh first gets on top of the DB and then runs a comeback route. Shruggie. Excellent blitz pickup and Darboh manages to box out the DB to make a tough catch on an excellent throw. (DO, 2, protection 3/3, Darboh route -)
O46 1 10 Ace twins 1 3 1 4-3 even Run Pitch sweep Smith 7
This works despite a Utah blitz shooting inside of Poggi and knocking a pulling Glasgow out of the play. Nothing Poggi could do. Butt(+1) does a good job to shove and stay connected to his dude; Cole(+1) gets out on a linebacker in space; a safety comes down to hit Smith. Smith is not good at dodging these guys; he does grind out a few yards after contact. RPS +1. Catching the blitz provided a lot of room.
O39 2 3 Ace twins twin TE 1 2 2 4-3 even Run Power O Isaac 4
Williams(+2) blasts the playside end off the ball by himself. Kalis(+1) gets a good sealing pull. Isaac is on the edge on the short side against an overhang corner, but he can't make anything of it.
O35 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 4-3 even Pass Out and up Butt Inc
Isaac(-2) blows a blitz pickup entirely, running after Cole's guy while a linebacker shoots up the middle. Rudock has to get rid of it way early ,which is a shame because Butt has just run over a LB as he breaks vertically after faking an out. If this gets one more second he's going to be wide open for 20 yards. Rudock has to get rid of it so fast that the ball is about three yards from Butt when he looks for the ball. It's basically on the money but for naught. (CA+, 0, protection 0/2)
O35 2 10 I-Form twins 2 1 2 6-2 tight Pass Fly Darboh Inc
Braden(-2) gets whipped instantly and Rudock gets blasted as he throws. The ball is about a yard too long; hard to blame him. (PR, 0, protection 0/2)
O35 3 10 Shotgun 2-back 2 0 3 3-3-5 nickel Pass Scramble Rudock 1 + 15 Pen
This is pretty bad. Rudock, already in the gun, drops back another six yards for some reason, then bugs out despite no one being within eight yards of him.He gets a few yards on a scramble. (TA, N/A, protection 1/1). Utah bails M out with a dumb PI.
O19 1 10 I-Form twins 1 2 2 4-3 over Pass Post Butt 19
I don't know if Rudock even sees the other safety here but sometimes you gotta live mas, man, and this is put in a spot where only his TE can make the catch. He does despite a rake. (DO, 1, protection 2/2)
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 10-17, 1 min 3rd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Type Play Player Yards
M29 1 10 Ace 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass Flash screen Darboh 16
Perry(+1) gets a cut block that the Utah CB plays really badly, leaping over it and taking himself out of the play. Darboh then runs up the sideline. (CA, 3, screen, RPS +1)
M45 1 10 Ace 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Run Inside zone Smith 7
Glasgow(+1) and Kalis(+1) blow out a DT. Glasgow extends to a linebacker; Kalis turns and finishes for a pancake. Braden(+0.5) does enough on a single block on the other DT to make that matter; he doesn't give ground but neither does he gain it. Cole(+0.5) got a reasonable second level block; Smith runs straight upfield at the big hole.
O48 2 3 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Base 3-4 Run Slice IZ Smith 0
Smith(-3) with a derf reminiscent of last year. Playside OLB rushes way upfield, taking himself out of the play. There is a big ass gap Smith can hit; maybe the DE set up on Braden blows him up, maybe not. Running directly into the entire OL and DL does nothing. Heck, cut to the backside where Butt is carving out a tiny bit of a lane. This is setting 30, 40 yards on fire.
O48 3 3 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 3-3-5 nickel Pass Circle Perry INT
The pick six. Picture-paged. Perry runs a very bad no good route that doesn't sell the slant, so the nickel corner is all over it; Rudock cannot throw this ball. (BRX, 0, protection 1/1, Perry route -2)
Drive Notes: Defensive touchdown, 10-24, 8 min 4th Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Type Play Player Yards
M36 1 10 I-Form Big 2 2 1 4-3 under Run Iso Smith 3
I kind of feel like this is also a missed opportunity, as the playside DT ends up hammering it outside and into the designated gap. He's off balance; Smith could cut behind that when he sees a drive to the playside, and then he's got a lot of space and just Braden and his guy; he could pick a side. Maybe that's unrealistic? I go back to Harbaugh screaming WATCH THE BACK DOOR in that Orange Bowl video; nobody's watching the back door here. In any case. M gets a decent gain; Kerridge gets submarined in the hole by a LB playing this very well, nothing he can do. Kalis(-0.5) barely hangs on to this block and with the LB blowing the lane up that means Smith stumbles through a very narrow gap and falls over. I'm not minusing the lack of a cutback here but I wonder what Drake Johnson does with this.
M39 2 7 Shotgun empty TE 1 1 3 4-3 even Pass Hitch Smith Inc
Utah elects not to cover Smith, lined up at flanker. Rudock puts it on his hands; drop. (CA, 3, protection 1/1, RPS +2)
M39 3 7 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass TE out Butt 17
Easy pitch and catch for the first down as M catches zone and Rudock hits Butt in a moderate window. (CA, 3, protection 1/1) Butt(+1) grabs some YAC.
O44 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass Scramble Rudock 5 (Pen +5)
Utah jumps offsides. Not entirely clear this is a free play though so don't get huffy about that. Looks like Rudock makes a bad read pre snap as the field side has a guy who should be open, but I hate all hitch anyway so whatever. Rudock doesn't like anything and scrambles for a few yards. (TA, N/A, protection 2/2)
O39 1 5 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass Flare Isaac 3
Braden(-2) and Magnuson(-1) both get run through easily here, with Braden having it worse since he's a G letting a DT through without even slowing him.Rudock has no choice but to dump it fast for a reasonable gain and OOB. (CA, 3, protection 0/3)
O36 2 2 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass Flash screen Darboh 1
Utah loads up the LBs and sends them and M pulls a guard here so this is definitely a live read at the LOS. It's a good idea; the corner finally plays this like a sane person and holds the edge. Darboh(-1) has the first down easily if he just sees what side of the block the defender is on and goes on the other side, which would be straight upfield. Instead he dances around to the outside and only gets a yard. (CA, 3, screen, RPS +1)
O35 3 1 Ace 1 1 3 Nickel even Run QB sneak Rudock 0
Braden(-2) blown two yards into the backfield and into a heap. This moonwalk catches Rudock's leg and robs him of any shot to get forward momentum.
O35 4 1 I-Form Big 2 2 1 6-2 tight Run Power O Smith 0
Infamous fourth down play. I can't tell you which of Kalis or Smith is wrong. I can tell you that if Smith follows Kalis outside the guys roaring up the gap have no shot at him and it's a big gain. I can also tell you that Poggi is kicking a DE so that would be weird if M was trying to go outside. But then again, Kerridge heads outside from the drop. I'm going with Kalis is correct since two lead blockers head outside and Smith(-3) does not. YMMV. Cole(+1) totally buried his dude, FWIW.
Drive Notes: Turnover on downs, 10-24, 5 min 4th Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR DForm Type Play Player Yards
M20 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass Out Perry 6
Protection basically fine. Can't tell if anyone's open downfield; Utah does a good job to tackle this in bounds. (CA, 3, protection 2/2)
M26 2 4 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass Hitch Chesson 9
Kalis(-1) goes after and chases a DT stunting around, so when Magnuson(-1) sees his guy jet inside there's no one to help. Rudock gets blown up on the throw, but it's accurate and moves the chains. (CA+, 3, protection 0/2)
M35 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass TE post Butt 16
Utah telegraphs a double A gap blitz; M picks it up. Rudock has a lot of space that a dropping DE can't cover and fires an accurate ball for a chunk. Butt double catches this but does bring it in. (CA, 3, protection 3/3)
O49 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass Dig Darboh Inc
Hard to tell but I think this is coming out before anybody touches Darboh and is just a flat drop. It was a dig at the sticks in a relatively tight window. (CA, 3, protection 2/2)
O49 2 10 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass Throwaway N/A Inc
This pressure is on Rudock, who has a pocket that is just fine but keeps dropping and dropping. He's eventually eleven yards deep and Cole can no longer keep an angle. (TA, 0, protection 2/2)
O49 3 10 Shotgun trips TE 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass Scramble Rudock 4
Rudock again bugs out after taking way too much drop. This is max pro and has a fine pocket. Throw the ball. (TA, 0, protection 2/2)
O45 4 6 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass Slant Perry 10
Perry breaks open as the zone DB doesn't know which way to go; Rudock fires it in slightly behind and low but still in the CA range. (CA, 3, protection 1/1)
O35 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass Seam Perry 25
Probably Rudock's best throw of the night, as he steps into a 25 yard seam right on Perry and just in front of the safety. (DO, 2, protection 2/2)
O10 1 G Shotgun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even Pass Slant Darboh 10
Telegraphed cover zero from Utah, protection is good enough, Darboh busts open on a slant, pitch and catch. (CA, 3, protection 2/2)
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 17-24 ,1 min 4th Q. Onside kick fails, EOG.

Y U STILL BRADY HOKE OFFENSE

Yeah… I wish I could tell you different.

BUT CHART

Butt Chart?

Or that.

I'm getting to this early so we can just set the table for what I saw on the ground. What I saw was Michigan getting destroyed, for the most part.

Offensive Line
Player + - Total Notes
Cole 3.5 6 -2.5 Edge whiffs hurt badly.
Braden 5 8 -3 Did okay when not being repeatedly destroyed?
Glasgow 5 1.5 3.5 Same as always, one man in a storm.
Kalis 5 8 -3 Very disappointing.
Magnuson 2.5 - 2.5 Hooray?
Butt 2 4.5 -2.5 Not a great outing as a blocker.
Williams 2 1 1 One big ol block.
Kerridge 3 - 3 Wish they could make him relevant.
Poggi 1 5 -4 Also disappointing.
Hill - 0.5 -0.5 Played little after early pitch biff.
Bunting       DNC
TOTAL 29 34.5 46% Brutal start.
Backs
Player + - T Notes
Rudock       DNC
Morris       DNP
Smith 5.5 7 -1.5 Cuts late let M down.
Isaac 1 0.5 0.5 Also one very bad blitz pickup.
Green       DNC
Johnson       DNP
Taylor-Douglas - - - DNC
TOTAL 6.5 7.5 -1 Paging Drake Johnson?
Receivers
Player + - T Notes
Darboh 3 1 2 Flash screens
Chesson        
Harris        
Perry 2   2 Ditto
Cole        
Ways - - - DNP
Jones - - - DNP
TOTAL 5 1 4 Eh.
Metrics
Player + - T Notes
Protection 46 16 74% Braden –5, Kalis –3, Magnuson –2, Isaac –2, Poggi –2, Cole –1, Butt –1
RPS 12 6 6

Free screen yards; multiple pitch plays that should have worked but for multiple blocking fails.

Both guards were huge issues, and Cole struggled on the ground. 85% is usually the cutoff for a "protection" metric that I think is good, so let that affect your opinion of Rudock. It wasn't as clean a day as it seemed live.

Sigh. Let's talk about power.

Michigan doesn't know what the hell it's doing on it. Earlier this week, MLive beat guy Nick Baumgardner and SI college football writer Andy Staples, a former walk-on OL at Florida, got into an argument about just what was wrong with this play, Michigan's second from a goofy and quickly abandoned six OL set:

Baumgardner asserted that the pulling G has to find someone to hit instead of blindly running up in a gap with a big flashing NO VACANCY sign; Staples retorted that the fault was really the guys who weren't moving/kicking the defender out of the playside A gap. I kind of agree with both guys: obviously life is much easier for you if the gap you think you're going in exists, as it did here:

But that's not always going to happen, and you need a plan B. Stanford's offenses under Harbaugh were great at finding a plan B. Michigan's not so much.

I agree with Baumgardner a bit more. The previous play saw Kalis burn himself on the first gap type thing he saw; the rest of the line blocked down as Utah played to "spill" this power, and Utah had an unblocked guy chasing from the backside. Smith ended up in an outside gap because that's where the hole was; he got destroyed because he had no lead  block.

I mean, there's a reason you never see anyone run "A gap power" like this consistently. The vast majority of power plays attack off tackle, because you get more time to react to what the defense is doing. "A gap power" had better be a trap that catches people off guard, because trying to run it consistently is begging to get stuffed with any line slant. Also it's just way easier to move ends and tight ends and DBs than DTs.

When you are more patient you get opportunities to make decisions after the snap. Here Braden's presented with a crappy situation as Williams gets blown back. M gets a big block from a double on the interior, but if Braden tries to cut up behind that he's probably going to run into Williams's guy, creating a furball and little gain. So he goes outside.

Watch that a second time if you will and see what Braden's pull—and Smith's decision to follow it—does to the linebackers. The unblocked guy gets held up, unsure of where to go. Smith gets to run at him instead of vice versa.

This ends up looking like a good outside zone run: Smith follows his lead block until he gets to just outside the tackle box, and then he cuts back to find a lane. This is using a block in a way that we have very rarely seen any of Michigan's current backs properly execute. It is not necessarily the block Braden gets that opens it up; it's the threat of it. This is Teddy Roosevelt diplomacy: run softly and carry a big stick.

1) This is a decision Braden makes.
2) The back has to respect that decision and use it, otherwise he eats unblocked guys.
3) If the back cannot respect that decision because it is a furball, the OL has failed.

By halfway through the second quarter Kalis was adapting to changing situations in front of him. Here he gets around a bad block from Butt and finds a guy to hit:

But Smith doesn't wait for that. He is running as hard as he can straight at the line of scrimmage, so when circumstances change he has to make a near 90-degree cut and then try to regain momentum. Smith is not good at that. As a result he ends up taking an arm tackle from behind (Glasgow got rolled up on) and does not hit the linebacker with the crunching force that will get him the YAC he is capable of.

On the previous play he "sets up his blocks," as you hear people say so often. On this one he just runs.

This stuff is, I think, the root of the failed fourth and one conversion. Kalis has pulled and pulled and put himself in a nothing gap over and over again and then gets told to maybe chill out and read the play for a second before flinging himself into a pile. Smith has been bouncing power outside because that's what Utah is playing Michigan to do and has had little success. On fourth and one Kalis runs outside with Kerridge; Smith goes up the gut at unblocked guys.

Even if Kalis is wrong, Smith has to go with him. If you abandon him you are doomed. But Smith just runs and hopes it works out.

So: Michigan is not good at moving big DTs. They are not good at adjusting post-snap. And they are not good at using their blocks when they in fact happen. That about covers it.

So the random running again then.

Yeah. If the Wheatley transition is going to help it evidently isn't going to do so right away. Smith still mostly runs at random. The cutback lanes he missed in the second half were truly vast. This one I kind of get because it's power with a reasonable lane where he should go. This one, woof:

A fatcat carpetbagger could light a cigar with the yards just left on the field. But it's not just about missing the holes; it's about creating them. Good backs will run with an idea of the hole they will make and then make a cut. That's what NFL scouts mean but a "one cut" back: he runs until the appropriate time to cut behind his blocks and then does so.

If Michigan has that guy it is Drake Johnson or maybe Ty Isaac.

I can hear the caterwauls for a replacement even from the nether space I exist in.

Yes, bolded alter-ego, they are part of the cosmic background radiation. I'd like to see more of Isaac, who didn't exactly impress but is at least fresh meat for the grinder. His one real chance to bust one ended with a meek tackle at the hands of a CB…

…and he blew a blitz pickup on a play that otherwise was likely to be a big chunk. This is why Smith was in for most of the third down stuff, and why Smith was dropping the ball on that play Utah elected not to cover him at all.

And then the guards?

There's really no sugarcoating it: they were very bad. Braden nosed ahead of Kalis in that department. On the first snap from scrimmage he got serious help from Glasgow on an iso away from him. Should be an easy seal away and a gap if Smith ends up cutting a gap away from the fullback. Smith does, wisely, and meets Braden's guy:

Step around and anchor. Smith is likely to plow out YAC if he is dealing with one tackler. Two not so much.

That was the start of a day that only got worse from there. This is an otherwise well blocked inside zone that he does his lunge/shed/stumble combo on:

He makes me think of Willie Henry a lot, and not in a pleasant way. Because he's on DL highlight films as the dude who gets hurled:

Pass protection was not as bad but neither was it great. This in particular was wince-worthy, as even a vaguely acceptable block may result in a touchdown:

And then the prelude to disaster:

I think everyone was alarmed when Braden was moved back to guard. He tried it a couple years ago and looked so out of place they put him at tackle during 2013's interior OL armageddon and never even considered playing him. That decision looked very justified on Saturday. Unfortunately, I don't know how much better this can get. Options behind Braden are Blake Bars and David Dawson, neither of whom has ever played or even looked plausible in a spring game. Dawson was getting some buzz late in fall camp, so let's try that I guess? Honestly, I don't expect that to stick. Otherwise it already would have. There are no preconceived notions here and both guys were healthy the whole way through camp: Braden probably just played better.

Meanwhile we've discussed a lot of the pulling issues Kalis had. Also, this…

…I have never seen before.

We're probably done talking about bad blocking by now.

Unfortunately, Michigan is still in a state where asking more than the absolute minimum number of people to block is asking for someone to blow up your play.

Or not.

This pitch sweep should really, really work, it is a clear RPS +2 on which Utah is immediately in deep water, and all Michigan gets is a modest gain:

First a dude runs directly between Poggi and Cole, then Butt and Hill both lose blocks quickly. If either gets effectively blocked Glasgow picks the other off and Isaac is one on one with a saftey; if both do Glasgow is one on one with a safety.

This looks similarly promising until 1) Harris's weak cut block is leapt over, 2) Cole whiffs on a linebacker coming inside out and 3) Butt does not realize he is needed to deal with guys coming from the inside and tries to go get the safety:

Michigan's forays outside in this game all looked super promising until nobody got a block. I almost mean that literally.

Meanwhile, adding Tuley-Tillman did not put pressure on the opponent to deal with big power sets with defensive backs, because Tuley-Tillman did not get blocks. Here even a dodgy block on which he stays connected and pushes the guy somewhere probably opens up a cutback lane for Smith. Instead it is an airball and a tackle for nothing:

[ED: But nevermind that, I guess.]

The main problem is the same problem: Michigan sucks at blocking. This was really disappointing, as Michigan was pretty decent to end last year. Transition costs and the loss of Jack Miller—much bigger than it appeared at the time since the LG spot looks like a huge dropoff—explain part of it. Michigan looked at least okay at the double-and-go-get-LB thing.

We have to hope that Utah's defensive line explains much of the rest. Otherwise we're in for another very long year. Transitions suck so much. Here's another one. Hooray!

Why are they throwing at AJ Williams?

I mean… they have to. If Williams is going to play they have to throw him the ball sometimes. And only one of the things that happened when he was targeted was really his fault. He was interfered with on one play; on his lone catch he dug out a very inaccurate ball from Rudock for a single yard.

But you have to throw it to him sometimes or he can't play. If the answer to that is "well then stop playing him" I hear you, but given Poggi's performance in this game it is going to be tougher to displace him than we might have thought during fall practice.

Can we now dump on Rudock?

Serenity now, man.

Jake Rudock 2014

Opponent DO CA MA IN BR TA BA PR SCR DSR
Maryland 2 38++(2) 4(1) 2 2* 6 3 7 1 75%
Northwestern 5+ 7+(1) 3(1) 3 - 1 1 - 1 71%
Illinois 3 13(2)+ - 2 1 2 - - 3 77%
Wisconsin 5+ 16(3)++ 7 1 1 3 1 2 2 80%
Nebraska 3 20(1) 2 5 4** 2* 1 5 1 66%

Jake Rudock 2015

Opponent DO CA MA IN BR TA BA PR SCR DSR
Utah 5+ 18+++ 2 4* 4* 4 - 1 1 71%

I did give him an IN for the first two long throws that were off; the third got a PR. I did not chart the first INT; the second two were an INX and a BRX (the X is for XTREME!). You'll note that aside from the huge disasters he was pretty accurate. So we've got that going for us.

The interceptions have been discussed to death. A final recap: number one was 100% Perry screwing up his route, number two was 100% Rudock throwing a wildly inaccurate ball, number three was a combination of Perry running a bad route and Rudock throwing it anyway.

Meanwhile, the deep balls follow the same pattern: on number one Rudock threw an accurate ball if Chesson was running flat out. Number two was on him, as he threw a ball that was way too flat and gave his WR no chance. Number three was a combo that's pretty forgivable since he got plastered a nanosecond after he got rid of the ball. 

I was actually more concerned about the stuff nobody is talking about. Rudock looked extremely uncomfortable at times, to the point where he's not coming off his receivers like he used to. This is early:

That's super dangerous and for a five yard out. Meanwhile Isaac is open for some number of yards greater than zero right in front of him. Late he started dropping ridiculously deep and created pressure for himself in excellent pockets. That was very weird.

Some of this wasn't on him. The three yard pass to Butt on third and four that set Iowa twitter aflame looked a lot like an Iowa play because Rudock had his choice of covered guys downfield or a throw short of the sticks. Michigan ran a lot of all curls and the like. All curls sucks when the opponent is happily bringing another guy into the box and your QB doesn't have the kind of gun he needs to confidently throw a five yard hitch from the opposite hash to the sideline. Also it just kind of sucks, as anyone who's watched Iowa's offense over the past five years could tell you.

And there were a number of throws in there that were pretty, usually when he could probe spaces between the levels of a zone.

First game with a new team at night on the road with a big wind; he will improve and be okay.

RPS positive? Can that happen?

They did not hit any big plays but they had excellent opportunities to with the pitches that they just collossally screwed up. And they took free yards when offered them. A lot of them.

Michigan's flash screens and "smoke" routes* picked up five to 25 yards every time with the solitary exception of a one-yard gain late. That was on Darboh expecting Utah to continue doing the dumb stuff above; when they played it right Darboh still tried to break it outside. Otherwise it was an easy second and short conversion.

Receivers?

[0 = uncatchable, 1 = circus catch, 2 = moderate difficulty, 3 = routine]

Player 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3
Darboh 5/7   5/7
Chesson         3/3
Perry   1/2 2/3   1/2 2/3
Harris            
Canteen            
Cole         1/1
Butt 2 1/1 1/2 4/4   2 1/1 2/2 4/4
Williams 2 1/1       2 1/1  
Bunting       1/1         1/1
Poggi              
                   
Smith 1     1/2   1   1/2
Isaac     1/1     1/1
Green      
Johnson                  
Kerridge              
Taylor-Douglas                  

Jake Butt is good.

I gave Darboh a routine drop for the third down conversion. It was close between a 2 and a 3 but nobody hit him. I will give Darboh some rad prop-dap-bumps for this block (he's the uppermost WR):

Way to not break the cardinal rule of blocking—never turn upfield—and find a guy.

*[I used to call them "long handoffs" when they were just WRs with no blockers but that is closer to offical lingo, and it's shorter and cooler.]

Heroes?

Pass phase Jake Butt. Darboh mostly? Graham Glasgow.

Maybe not so heroic?

The rest of the OL, and kind of Rudock, and all the TE blocking.

What does it mean for Oregon State and the future?

They have a bigass hole to dig out of. I'm betting Utah's DL is top notch; even so Michigan had so many problems with them and the second level that I can't be particularly optimistic about the ground game. Both guards got physically dominated in a way I have not seen before.

Running back competition is open. Smith did little to secure his place.

The wide receivers might be a pleasant surprise? Once Perry irons out the kinks and Chesson actually gets the ball on his hands this unit might be a lot better than anticipated.

Rudock wasn't great but he wasn't as bad as all that. This will probably be one of his worst performances of the year.

Hooray taking what they give you. This would have been truly ugly if Michigan didn't take advantage of the opportunity to grab 50 or so yards with dumb little WR screens.

Comments

JTrain

September 10th, 2015 at 5:19 PM ^

SC...let me ask you this...what do you think Harbaugh and Drevno are thinking to themselves after grading the oline on that performance?
1) wow we are in big big trouble
2) man..lets temper our enthusiasm we have a long way to go.
3) a few adjustment here and there and we will be rolling by big ten season

Thoughts if you were the coach?



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Space Coyote

September 10th, 2015 at 6:24 PM ^

They didn't need a game to find out, they already knew. They know they have a lot of work to do, but that won't diminish their enthusiasm one bit. This was a project, they may not have been fully aware of what they were walking into before they got here, but they found out fast, and now their competitiveness will drive them to get it fixed. Some small adjustments, some big, but they have high expectations and they'll go for them.

I Like Burgers

September 10th, 2015 at 5:27 PM ^

I think we have loses to MSU, Minn, and Ohio State left on the schedule.  BYU, at Maryland, and Northwestern could be tricky, and maybe at Penn State but all should be winnable.  I used to think Penn State would be a close win or a loss, but I now think they turn into a dumpster fire by the end of the year and that could be an easy win.

Poor Hackenberg.  Should have transferred before they broke him.

Space Coyote

September 10th, 2015 at 4:16 PM ^

The stick out that is thrown short of the 1st down on 3rd and 4 is a great concept on 3rd and 4. It's an impatient decision by Rudock that blows that play up, and a poor read. Butt is first in the progression and if he's open (i.e. someone gets rubbed or the flat defender bails to a deep zone) you throw to Butt.

Rudock didn't go through his progression, and instead was not patient and threw the ball to Butt who wasn't in a good position to pick up the first down with YAC (how the play is designed if the ball is thrown to him). If Rudock waits a half beat (going to the next step in the progression) the stick route is open at the first down marker. But he didn't give the defense a chance to move and threw at something that wasn't open.

Good play call that actually had two guys that could have gotten a first down (the Corner was open enough because the flat defender was squatting on the underneath route and the stick was open because the LB started bailing when the ball didn't get thrown into his zone immediately).

Space Coyote

September 10th, 2015 at 4:44 PM ^

Just because a guy catches the ball short of the first down marker doesn't make it a bad play. That's a stupid idiom that announcers like to spew and fans to regurgitate. Again, the read is if there is no one in the flat then Butt is open. If there is no one in the flat he can catch the ball before the defense can react and it's a first down. It's like saying a calling a run on third down is stupid because the ball carrier gets it behind the first down marker. Does that make sense? No. Because you are allowed to run with the football.

It's stupid if you are running a route that doesn't reach the first down marker that isn't designed to get YAC, like a hitch or something. That's why when people run a hitch they have to get past the sticks before they come back to the ball. A bench route isn't a hitch route though. Notice the Stick route on the play did get beyond the marker. That's why.

It's stupid that for some reason people act like YAC doesn't count on third down. It does. But you don't make the throw unless you can get the YAC, which is the read for the QB. This is why the first read on Spider 2 Y Banana is the FB. This is the whole basis of the West Coast Offense (half the yards through the air, half the yards after the catch is a famous Walsh saying). This is why it's a well designed play that isn't read correctly.

If your number 1 read can get 4 yards every time he's open, then I don't see how it can be poor play design just because the catch is made before the receiver is in first down territory. It's why OSU threw to Zeke out of the backfield on 4th and 5 on a swing pass (it just happened to be the Y-Stick concept as well with the RB running the "flat" portion of the route) and picked up 10 yards and a first down. But it doesn't work if the receiver isn't "open" in terms of the progression, just like a pass beyond the sticks doesn't work if the receiver isn't open in the progression.

pescadero

September 10th, 2015 at 4:56 PM ^

Just because a guy catches the ball short of the first down marker doesn't make it a bad play.

 

Correct.

When your #1 read is designed to run a route short of the sticks on 3rd and 4 - that doesn't make it a bad play, just a bad play call.

 

It's like saying a calling a run on third down is stupid because the ball carrier gets it behind the first down marker.

 

Most runs on 3rd and long in college football ARE stupid. They're a perfect example of conservative play calls that are designed to avoid failure more than they're designed to get the 1st down. It's like punting on 4th down in the opponents territory in the 4th quarter when you're down 3 touchdowns - bad, bad game theory.

Statistics show that football coaches have a big problem small sample bias and the recency effect, as well as worrying about things other than maximizing their teams success.

Space Coyote

September 10th, 2015 at 5:10 PM ^

You can try to strawman it with some topic about small sample bias and game theory and running on third and long (which is why teams rarely run on third and long, not even sure what the point of saying that is), but you're wrong here. Absolutely, 100% wrong.

If Butt is open, then he gets a first down. If he isn't Rudock has a nice little triangle concept with two receivers that are beyond the sticks and one that will be shortly as his route continues. Go ahead and mince words about play and play call, it was a perfectly legitimate play call that was not executed well because Rudock threw it to a guy that wasn't open.

I'd like you to actually explain to me why it is a bad play call, and don't say because it didn't run a route past the first down marker, don't say because it didn't work, actually explain why it's a bad play call, with rationale. Explain to me why you wouldn't use a portion of the field to run a route that is designed to get YAC when it's open. Explain to me why you should never run the football on 3rd and 2. Please, explain to me with football knowledge.

I get it, this is your M.O. Mince words and find a strawman based on a few sentences in a post. But you're wrong, plain and simple, and it's not worth arguing anymore because it's so obvious you are, in fact, wrong.

Also, get used to it, because Harbaugh is going to call these types of plays all the time on 3rd and 3-5. Just like a lot of coaches do, and some fans will bitch when they don't pick up a 1st down like fans of all teams do because all coaches do it because, you know, despite your strawman, most football coaches at this level do in fact know a thing or two about how to call a play that can pick up a first down.

pescadero

September 10th, 2015 at 5:34 PM ^

You can try to strawman it with some topic about small sample bias and game theory and running on third and long.

It ain't a strawman. A straw man is logical fallacy that occurs when a debater intentionally misrepresents an opponent's position to make the opponent's arguments appear easily defeated.

You claim it's a good playcall  - and that is exactly what I'm arguing with. I'm in no way misrepresenting your position that it was a good playcall.

 

I'd like you to actually explain to me why it is a bad play call and don't say because it didn't run a route past the first down marker, don't say because it didn't work, actually explain why it's a bad play call, with rationale.

 

Because repeated statistical analysis shows it is significantly less likely to succeed. It's a highly non-optimal play call.

 

Explain to me why you should never run the football on 3rd and 2.

You should almost ALWAYS run the ball on 3rd and 2. It has a much higher likelihood of success. You should almost never run the ball on 3rd and 5+, as it has a much lower likelihood of success.

 

Just like a lot of coaches do, and some fans will bitch when they don't pick up a 1st down like fans of all teams do because all coaches do it because, you know, despite your strawman, most football coaches at this level do in fact know a thing or two about how to call a play that can pick up a first down.

If coaches know so much, and operate to maximize team success why do we see:

Running on 1st being more common than passing, even though stats show passing significantly more successful?

Teams that are losing late in the game punting on 4th and short int he opponents territory?

 

In the NFL 4th and 2 or less have an 89% chance of success when going for it - yet coaches punt 78% of the time on 4th and 2 or less.

This graph where teams are much more likely to run on 2nd and 10 than on 2nd and 9 or 2nd and 11:

 

Coaches at all levels are ultra conservative - because (as they used to say in the IT world) "No one gets fired for buying IBM"

Space Coyote

September 10th, 2015 at 6:17 PM ^

This is all strawman, as I never said a thing about running on third and long until you brought it up, at which point I pointed out it was a strawman that no one was arguing. "Most runs on 3rd and long in college football ARE stupid. They're a perfect example of conservative play calls that are designed to avoid failure more than they're designed to get the 1st down. It's like punting on 4th down in the opponents territory in the 4th quarter when you're down 3 touchdowns - bad, bad game theory. Statistics show that football coaches have a big problem small sample bias and the recency effect, as well as worrying about things other than maximizing their teams success." You're making arguments no one is talking about. You have no statistics that back you up your actual claim of a bad play call. A guy is running a route toward the first down line, it's a short pass that if the defense isn't covering it they can't react to it to stop it because the receiver catches the ball 2 yards short of the line to gain with his momentum taking him away from the defense and toward the marker (basically making it a run play with two yards to go and the nearest defender at safety depth...). So use physics, use common sense, use football knowledge...or make up supposed statistics and argue a strawman like you did. You're talking about being conservative which has nothing to do with throwing short on 3rd and short. It is, In fact, a high percentage play with what's typically considered an easy read and throw, so unless high likelihood for success=conservative in a bad way=bad play call, then you're wrong. You. Are. Wrong. And you defined a strawman and described the exact thing you did. Then you did it again; you doubled down and went further with your strawman logic. It's almost like you're aware, but not fully aware

pescadero

September 10th, 2015 at 6:33 PM ^

I never said a thing about running on third and long until you brought it up

 

Ummm, want to try again?

The first mention of running on 3rd down was made by YOU in post #43 - here is a direct quote:

"It's like saying a calling a run on third down is stupid"

You can read your own (first mention) of it here:

http://mgoblog.com/content/upon-further-review-2015-offense-vs-utah#com…

 

You have no statistics that back you up your actual claim of a bad play call.

 

Yes, I do. From the Football Outsider research on 3rd down passing:

The worst completion percentage is on passes thrown right at the sticks. They also have the lowest YAC.

The second worst was 1-2 yards short of the sticks.

Highest completion percentage and most likelihood of conversion is on passes thrown 1-2 yards beyond the first down marker.

 

 

So unless high likelihood for success=conservative in a bad way=bad play call, then you're wrong.

 

If there is a play with higher likelihood for success - then high likelihood for success=conservative in a bad way=bad play call.

Space Coyote

September 10th, 2015 at 6:50 PM ^

Any run on 3rd down gives the ball to the ball carrier short of the line to gain, just like this pass play is intended to IF IT IS OPEN. I said zero about it being 3rd and long, so, ummm, wanna try again? The analysis you cite probably isn't taking other things into account: dump offs, check downs, late forced throws to receivers working back to the line to gain. It's just based off raw statistics, which is a flawed way to analyze statistics. It doesn't look at a Y-stick concept and only on quick hitting routes designed for YAC, so it isn't valid here. Also, the nice thing about this play design, is that you only throw it short of the sticks IF IT IS OPEN. If it isn't you throw the stick route run 1-2 yards beyond the first down marker. Funny how that matches with what I said. If it's open, it gets a 1st down almost 100% of the time, if it isn't, it shouldn't be thrown. You're still wrong. Thanks for trying.

antonio_sass

September 10th, 2015 at 8:20 PM ^

I'd like to pile on here. Pescadero, you're wrong. Or not comprehending. Or not caring to. From an outsider's perspective, it's just very clear that you're in over your head. 

I thought Space Coyote was pretty clear, but in case this helps, in more layman terms: 

There is a READ involved in this play. There are receivers running past the sticks, and a receiver running one yard short of the sticks. The play is meant to force the defender to hedge in one direction -- leaving at least one of the receivers open. It is up to the QB to READ where he should throw the ball in order to get the first down. 

In SOME cases, that open receiver would be Butt (and by open, I mean open enough so that he can clearly pick up the one extra yard for the first down). That was not the case here. He was covered, and thus Rudock should not have thrown the ball to Butt. That is why the play failed. Because if Rudock had waited a moment, the receiver running the 'stick' past the sticks would have come open -- for a first down. 

There's nothing inherently wrong with having a receiver run a route short of the sticks, but Rudock made the wrong read to throw it to him because he was covered. 

 

pescadero

September 11th, 2015 at 6:08 PM ^

There's nothing inherently wrong with having a receiver run a route short of the sticks

 

The only thing wrong with it is that it is suboptimal.

 

Note - the argument I'm making here is that the Law of Large numbers forces the sample mean to converge to the distribution mean.

That makes it inclusive of things like bad reads - they're inherently going to happen sometimes, and the distribution accounts for that.

Reader71

September 10th, 2015 at 8:29 PM ^

But you're misinterpreting the statistics. What they show is that throws short of the sticks are least successful. Point for you. But the stats do not say that any throw behind the sticks is a bad idea, which you claimed. Point lost. What Coyote is saying is that, even if true, this particular play had a good chance of success, because of the design. If Butt is open, his route gives him a high probability for YAC. Much like a bubble screen, which is by definition behind the sticks and even behind the line of scrimmage. Those aren't always bad plays, are they? Moreover, you're focusing on the throw to the one route, not the play in it's entirety. If Butt is covered, there is also a curl designed to be run past the sticks, in that 2-3 yard sweet spot that the stats mention is most likely to succeed. If the play has that route built in, can it be bad? You said the play was bad. What you meant was the read was bad. Or do you expect plays with all routes designed to go past the sticks, disregarding vertical spacing principles?

pescadero

September 11th, 2015 at 6:18 PM ^

But the stats do not say that any throw behind the sticks is a bad idea, which you claimed.

 

"Bad"=="suboptimal"

 

Much like a bubble screen, which is by definition behind the sticks and even behind the line of scrimmage. Those aren't always bad plays, are they?

 

No - and neither are throws short of the sticks if they aren't on third down.

In fact - passes BEHIND the line of scrimmage have a higher success rate on third down than passes a couple yards short of the sticks.

 

You said the play was bad. What you meant was the read was bad.

No - I said the play call was bad.

 

Or do you expect plays with all routes designed to go past the sticks, disregarding vertical spacing principles?

 

No - I largely expect football coaches (like all humans) to be really bad at understanding statistics and probability and to be overly risk averse.

People have a tendency to strongly prefer avoiding losses to acquiring gains. A number of studies have suggested that losses are twice as powerful psychologically as gains

It's why if you offer people a dollar today or two dollars tomorrow - most folks take the dollar today... and it's why even though punting on 4th and short in opponents territory is blindingly stupid with respect to winning the game, coaches still do it 80% of the time.

 

EGD

September 10th, 2015 at 8:59 PM ^

Having considered the evidence and the arguments present, I now pronounce you, Pescadero, guilty of using a strawman technique (by misrepresenting SC's position, that running the ball on third down is not always stupid, as a defense of running the ball on third & long). I sentence you to eat one lemon.

LBSS

September 10th, 2015 at 4:25 PM ^

Y U NO CHART BUTT AS RECEIVER. Surely it would make us all feel better. Also I feel like Darboh could have had higher + numbers if Rudock hits him on either or both of the deep routes where he was wide the fuck open.

Quail2theVict0r

September 10th, 2015 at 4:25 PM ^

Just a helpful hint for people who need to watch the videos multiple times to see what's going on -- YouTube now has a "speed" setting where you can cut the speed down to slow down the video. I find it helps to watch things at .5 speed because the sound still works (any slower and it mutes) and it allows you to really follow the play. 

Hannibal.

September 10th, 2015 at 4:28 PM ^

That toss sweep to Isaac where nobody but Glasgow gets a block is reminiscent of the low points of 2013.  How does everyone just completely blow it?  That's just pathetic right there.  Horrible regression. 

Rabbit21

September 10th, 2015 at 5:03 PM ^

I knew there would be an issue in transitioning back to power, but I did not even conceptualize that things would be this bad.  I thought it was inconceivable that all of these O-linemen were recruiting misses, but it's sadly looking like this is the case.  What a disappointment.

jsquigg

September 10th, 2015 at 4:38 PM ^

I think I'm more bummed out at guys not being physical and flat out not blocking than I would if they were blocking the wrong guys.  Even if Kalis misses an assignment, put a hat on somebody fergodsakes!  If you are in the game to block somebody the worst thing you can do is end a play on your feet while the ball carrier gets buried.  I do have faith in Drevno and Harbaugh, but I am in awe at the lack of toughness and physicality in the line play.

Valar Morghulis

September 10th, 2015 at 4:44 PM ^

To me it looked like the 2nd pick was a smash concept, where the outside receiver runs a short hitch and the inside receiver runs a corner route.  If that's the case, then Perry ran another poor route as he definitely rounds off his route to look like more of a deep out (which is what it is labeled above by Brian).  Perhaps if he ran a corner route it would have been completed.  If so, it looks like it would have been a nice gain as it was the correct read for the route concept.

Now, the throw may have been poor even with a good corner route, but it at least may explain why the two were on such different pages.  Difficult to say as it didn't pan out that way, but I'm going to side with the 5th year QB over the freshman WR as to where the ball and player should have been.

Space Coyote

September 10th, 2015 at 4:54 PM ^

You run a corner if you are even with the safety and have outside leverage; you make that corner more shallow (to make it closer to an out) the more the safety is over the top. On this play, the safety was well over the top. The route was correct by Perry.

Here's an example of route adjustments with a different concept (scissors concept) and how the inside receiver adjusts his route based on a single high look or a two-high defense.

LINK

For what it's worth, upon knowing what I know now, the receiver read "three deep defenders" (read: Cover 3) because OSU was a Cover 6 (quarter-quarter-half) defense that year. But it was a two-high safety look (the quarter-half are the safeties); thus, the confusion. The route in the link should have been a corner route, not a comeback route.

Valar Morghulis

September 10th, 2015 at 5:15 PM ^

I like how you finished the article by saying that it takes time and reps to be on the same page with route adjustments, but they also need to be cleaned up if you want to run an effective offense.  No doubt that these will be worked on in practice.

This is why I come to Mgoblog: I think I have a completely reasonable explanation as to why something happened and get totally debunked by an expert :)

gwkrlghl

September 10th, 2015 at 4:56 PM ^

he seems to have done the opposite on the O-line. Hoke could take anyone and make them a competent D-lineman but apparently can take multiple 4* and 5* guys on the other side and make them completely worthless. They suck frankly.

Your 2-deep goes:

LT  Cole 4*  LTT 4* (formerly)
LG  Braden 4* Dawson 4*
C    Glasgow 2* Kugler 4*
RG Kalis 5* JBB 4*
RT  Magnuson 4* Bars 3*

The only ones who apparently don't suck are Cole (who mercifully had limited exposure to Hoke) and the lucky find with Glasgow. I get that this is a transition year, but goodness gracious I'm not sure anyone's managed to waste that much o-line talent this century

Durham Blue

September 10th, 2015 at 5:03 PM ^

The grades are disheartening.  I feel like I witnessed a better offense while watching live.  The clips of the O line getting manhandled are not fun to watch.  One would think the O line would look a little better given all that grade A coaching.  Are the players really not very good?  Are they young?  Are they being asked to block in a way that doesn't fit their physical attributes?  I don't get it.

Space Coyote

September 10th, 2015 at 5:14 PM ^

There is nothing really inherently wrong about any of the players (though I do think Braden is a bit stiff, which is why I'm not a big fan of his at OG), but they aren't comfortable. They aren't comfortable in their assignments, they aren't comfortable identifying their man, they aren't comfortable in their technique.

That's why they stand up, that's why they look passive, that's why they don't get on blocks and destroy blocks. It isn't a physical thing (mostly). It's a comfort thing. Now, maybe they aren't comfortable because they aren't very good (the mental side of the game). Maybe they aren't comfortable because it's new (mental but correctable with time). That's hard to say. They have lost the "they're young" excuse, I still understand a bit about not being comfortable with the system (running this as your base is much harder than running it as a change up), but it needs to improve and fast.

I said in my game recap that I think this season will be a lot like last year. Start off pretty bad, work their way to average by the end of the year. That's disheartening after doing that last year after being weak on the OL the previous 2 years before that, but that's probably the stage where we're at.

Eye of the Tiger

September 10th, 2015 at 6:13 PM ^

...what we needed to see, in order to feel that the program was going in the right direction, was a run game that started performing on par with Iowa's (ranked in the 40-60 range). But that was assuming we'd have a passing game like we did in 2013, and not the Shakespearian tragedy that was our passing game last year. This year we might actually have a passing game like 2013 and a running game like 2014. That's not quite enough to be *good*, but enough to be *pretty good.* As in, 8 wins pretty good. I'll take it for now. 

Durham Blue

September 10th, 2015 at 6:18 PM ^

Thank you! This makes sense. You hit the nail on the head by saying they look "passive". I got the same impression looking at those clips. They can play better. Much better. Well, they sort of need to font they? My guess is that comfort level will take a few games to attain. Just keep practicing hard. Patience, I guess.

Wolverine 73

September 10th, 2015 at 5:10 PM ^

Week 1, new system, teams regularly improve most between first two games, the coaching staff is still the all-star group we all love, and Utah was a top 25 team playing at home.  Disappointing OL and RB play for sure, but I am going to wait until they play BYU to draw any conclusions about how good we will be.

alnigoblue

September 10th, 2015 at 10:44 PM ^

Every player will improve.  We don't know how much.  Each of them has a ceiling, and we don't know what that is.  But with this coaching staff, I'm confident they will all improve in some measure.  And if it's not enough, and there's someone else who looks better, they will be replaced.  Having played an actual game against a legitimately good opponent, then watching film and breaking down everything they did right and wrong against that opponent, then getting to work learning how not to do the wrong stuff so much, is probably worth just about as much as all of fall camp before.

Wolverine fan …

September 10th, 2015 at 5:12 PM ^

and kinda liked, but not that much because the ending still sucked. And now that I've watched the worst parts of the movie again, over and over and over I feel embarrassed for liking the movie at all. But then I remember, Harbaugh is directing the movie and I think "fuck yeah, the sequels will be better than the original!"  

DonAZ

September 10th, 2015 at 9:36 PM ^

Harbaugh is like the director who came in after filming completed. He can't reshoot everything.  So he has to take what's already shot and get creative with editing. He's using as much good footage as he can (Butt, Lewis, Peppers), he shot a few new scenes (Rudock), and is doing his best with the scenes that feature Kenau Reeves (the offensive line).

It will get better.

Farnn

September 10th, 2015 at 5:15 PM ^

I'm not sure the 2nd int was just a bad throw, looked like another miscommunication between Rudock and Perry.  May have been Rudock read the wrong route for Perry or Perry ran the wrong route, but it looked like a deliberate placement of the ball.

avid

September 10th, 2015 at 5:25 PM ^

On the play where Rudock scrambled after the token play fake it looked to me like there was some confusion.  I think Rudock expected a back to to be there to fake the handoff, and when there wasn't, he immediately abandoned the play and decided to get whatever yards he could on the ground.  

dragonchild

September 10th, 2015 at 5:42 PM ^

They're going back from IZ to Power.  They're not picking up from the end of last season.  This is going to productively hurt like physical therapy.  If you want long term health, you grit your teeth and grind through it.  If you don't like pain, then hiring Harbaugh was a bad idea because this was inevitable.

Rabbit21

September 10th, 2015 at 6:07 PM ^

I think the issue is that with so many experienced players returning who all seem physically gifted, no-one was expecting the pain to be this painful.  Paying transition costs are one thing, figuratively submitting to a hands on shoulders cavity inspection quite another.