Elliott Takes Shot at Dantonio for Guaranteeing Win for Spartans #DontGuaranteeWinsCoach

Submitted by alum96 on

I am mostly posting this for reference when the day comes 350 some odd days from now when Dantonio takes affront for a UM player sneezing within 2 hours of his presence as an affront to his manhood, all of Spartanhood, and greater mankind - we can just say "oh really now?"

Friday some ESPN show call First Take was on campus in EL with Gameday.   Per this Eleven Warriors piece Dantonio was asked if "we got a win coming tommorow right?" his response was "we got a win coming."

Now of course the normal coach speak is to say "we are going to have 2 great competitors coming out tomorow and it's gonna be a heck of game"... or if you are Lou Holtz circa 1994 "I doubt we have even a 2% chance to win tomorrow, this MAC team we are playing is one of the best MAC teams I have ever seen or anyone has ever seen..." (for those of you too young, Holtz would build up any opponent as the greatest thing on earth).  

But this is not a normal coach in EL; this is one who takes affront to anything on Earth said against him, his program, his players, or anything with 50 miles of campus.  So it was shocking to hear.  And I'm sure he wanted to take his foot right back out of his mouth.

Now of course Spartan Nation immediately defended him and said this was a leading question - how else should he answer... no?  (I outlined proper answers by a coach 2 paragraphs earlier).  The same group of people who would have cried bloody murder, bulletin board material, a lack of respect, and all the now tired cliches if Meyer had said "we got a win coming."  

If one were a cynic one might even say Dantonio was incredibly  prideful.  You know, like right before a fall was coming ... within 30 hours.  So as the MSU faithful said it was no big deal, master philosopher Urban, who apparently is also a jedi master in manufacturing disrespect saw differently.  How do we know this? 

Well young Ezekiel Elliott went to twitter post game with some parting shots including a final shot of the movie 300 with a lot of flattened Spartans laid out post battle - but the one that must have stuck in Dantonio's craw (because as we know he monitors opposing RBs comment very closely)

The worst feeling is talking too much and not backin it up.  Love my brothers on the next one.  Go Bucks! #DontGuaranteeWinsCoach

In the words of the great philosopher queen Mrs. Bielemna. .... karma.

SalvatoreQuattro

November 9th, 2014 at 12:01 PM ^

mGrowOld

November 9th, 2014 at 8:21 AM ^

As a general rule of thumb OP I like your posts but this one methinks you're stretching a bit.  I think MarkyMark is as big of tool-douchebag-asswipe-dickface-prick-jerkoff-fuckfaced-miserable sonofabitch as anybody but in this case what's he suppose to say?

For me anyways that was a real tough game to watch or get excited about on any level. I cant stand either team and whatever joy I got in watching the loser lose was wiped out by the realization that the winner won.  The sooner that game just goes away for me the better.

 

bj dickey

November 9th, 2014 at 11:46 AM ^

Op was right on considering the coach were talking about. He's right about one thing. Its definitely notnover. And next year in Ann Arbor, regardless of who is coaching michigan, I expect well run no huddle to bury that piece of crap And there will be no apology. Last year was the pinnacle for his tenure in east Lansing, and I'll be surprised if they ever reach 9 wins again while he is there.

alum96

November 9th, 2014 at 8:26 AM ^

Still on a post game high from a resounding victory over those Wildcats!  hah

Nah man, I think people in Michigan live in a different reality than those of you outside the state.  Granted some don't care but for a lot of us the smugness of Spartan fans has been on a 45 degree angle for 6 years now and its at a fever pitch.  And you can't say a damn thing to them, just sort of sulk around corners and whistle aimlessly.  There was no great outcome yesterday but an OSU win was the best way to prevent either team from getting to the playoff which was my only goal of yesterday's game.  Spartans in another Big 10 championship game and the first playoff - not sure I could take that man.

 

Mabel Pines

November 9th, 2014 at 8:44 AM ^

It's brutal up here.  I'm in the heart of farm country (no pun intended to them; it was originally an agricultural school; I apologize Mark D) and they are brutal.

I have a friend who says she doesn't really care about Mich/MSU, but she leans toward MSU, and she thinks the MSU fans are way worse on the Mich fans.

Also, sis lives in Ohio; MIL lives in Goshen, IN, guess which teams they want to beat the most each year??  It's completely geographical.

123blue

November 9th, 2014 at 8:30 AM ^

I realize that we suck and whatnot; we've only beaten one team with a winning record.  You know what other team has only beaten one team with a winning record?  MSU.

readyourguard

November 9th, 2014 at 8:30 AM ^

They got their asses kicked by the two good teams they faced this year, and they're out of the playoff picture. They're greatest achievement this season is beating an incompetent Michigan team. That is all, and that is good.

BNags

November 9th, 2014 at 9:01 AM ^

to such up a D-B like Dantonio is to whoop them on the field.  Until we do that more than once every six years we shouldn't have a whole lot to say about anything.  

 

To quote Eddie Murphy..."Brady...What have you done for me lately!?!?!"

RJWolvie

November 9th, 2014 at 9:04 AM ^

that could've come from this game. OSU winning means likely no Big10 team in playoff, which is as should be, but I was hoping both teams would look putrid in OSU winning (you know, like what happened in Evanston yesterday?). That was the best possible of a lousy set of possibilities

alum96

November 9th, 2014 at 9:37 AM ^

I know.  I feel bad for the youngins who only know Holtz from his TV days or at best his SC days.  Dude was a bad a$$ coach at ND but he was the Fred Jackson of "any team that played Notre Dame". 

"I don't know, we're sitting here at 8-1 and we're hosting 2-7 so and so... but I've never seen such a wonderful team with 2 wins.  And those wins were impressive, if we dont give everything we've got we could lose by 6 TDs this week.  And I'm serious about that.  Rarely do you see these type of players on any football field.  We're just going to go out there and hope we survive this week."

flashOverride

November 9th, 2014 at 10:30 AM ^

It seems like some people here are misreading others' thoughts and feelings on this. It's not like I'm going to walk into work tomorrow morning giving my Sparty coworkers a bunch of shit about losing. I'm not going to say a word about it. I'm aware of what happened two weeks ago, and know I have nothing to say even if State somehow lost out the rest of the year. It's not like I'm going to live vicariously through Buckeye fans and say, "Ha! Yeah! Better not run your mouth next time, Mark!". I'm simply going to be quietly content that they aren't going to the Playoff, and that their coach whose Disrespect Detector is perpetually turned up to 11 is getting a taste of his own whiny medicine. I don't see what's wrong with that.

flashOverride

November 9th, 2014 at 1:38 PM ^

Exactly. I said something to this effect during State week: no, they're not the bigger rival and never will be. Why? Because of how I feel after Michigan beats them. Beating Ohio State is a joy to be celebrated loudly. Beating Michigan State is a relief, nothing more. I don't need to rub it in the faces of MSU fans, I'm perfectly fine with being quiet afterward, as long as it means they have to be, too.

JTrain

November 9th, 2014 at 10:41 AM ^

Dantonio is a great coach. His system works. However, he has become a smug, arrogant, dick. I'm sick of his mouth. I can only hope our program will be resurrected soon because there would be nothing more gratifying than rubbing shit in his face (in an inconspicuous way, of course).

flashOverride

November 9th, 2014 at 11:18 AM ^

The shitty thing is his record vs Michigan has become so lopsided that even if Harbaugh came and immediately flipped the script, Michigan will probably never get back to even .500 against him. He'll retire if Michigan starts kicking his ass, because that rivalry is his entire identity. Four wins in a row against him is a tall enough order, but I think he'd bounce if it looked like there was even a chance of it happening. 

JoFree

November 9th, 2014 at 11:19 AM ^

. . . beat Sparty's ass in his own house, but at the same time if there was some way both teams coud've lost the same game last night, I would've been happier.

mgob-rad

November 9th, 2014 at 12:52 PM ^

Why are you are anyone on this board happy that Ohio state won!? Yeah ok so msu lost woo I hate them too but it's Ohio you never root for osu no matter the circumstance what in the hell is wrong with you people

bronxblue

November 9th, 2014 at 12:59 PM ^

I've always cheered for meteors when those teams play, but seeing MSU just get abused after whining two weeks ago was kind of fun. But yeah, it should come as a shock to no one that Dantonio is a hypocrite.

The Denarding

November 9th, 2014 at 5:41 PM ^

I understand that misery over company and it helps to throw stones at tormentors like it's the Gaza Strip and this will change our stated our stated outcomes. But though I did revel in the smugness of dantonio, I thought the whole thing had a deeper lesson. The one thing I have respected about MSU (not liked mind you but respected) is that they have a singular cultural fabric and they play to it! They ARE the persecuted little brother and this forces a sense of unity to both the coaching staff and each other. The kids in that program are ALL in. Bought into persecution, bought into proving themselves, bought into the commonality of a goal and bought into executing as a team almost in a militaristic style a cohesive, unified game plan and culture in everything the program is. Then the ONE time dantonio goes from persecuted to prideful he absolutely gets his crap handed to him. Call it karma, or cosmic justice or whatever but now you can see how a persecution complex fuels them. They do not have enough natural talent such that they can just freelance and hope for the best outcome. They programmatically know that and put themselves in a unified way to play to their strengths against each opponent. They broke that cultural edict and I think it contributed to the loss. The switch from persecution to pride is a cultural shift they need to make to drive desirability This is Michigans problem currently. The reaction to the previous regime is to become Bo's Michigan even at the cost of personnel or capability. Force feed that as the metric of culture because that is what you are hired to do and it will unite the fractured administration and fanbase and because this is Michigan fergodsakes. I think the culture at Michigan football has to change. I don't see a team committed to a common cause. I see a team that is fractured in coaching, scheme, and understanding. We couldn't commit to RR culturally, derided him endlessly and then honestly we hired his diametric opposite and told him to be the diametric opposite. Literally that his explicit purpose in existence is to be antithetical. It's now a soft, family first atmosphere with accountability but lots of entitlement. And a fixed desire to not adapt to personnel but steadfastly hold the cultural line of doing things the "Michigan way". It all speaks to you unified vision that has passionate commitment from everyone. Game plans can be different but you need a singular vision from the top down of what you are going to be - not based on an entitlement structure that appears so ingrained in the culture that we can't even see how flawed we are as a team. This is the bottom which has to be for the top to occur.