Elliott Takes Shot at Dantonio for Guaranteeing Win for Spartans #DontGuaranteeWinsCoach

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I am mostly posting this for reference when the day comes 350 some odd days from now when Dantonio takes affront for a UM player sneezing within 2 hours of his presence as an affront to his manhood, all of Spartanhood, and greater mankind - we can just say "oh really now?"

Friday some ESPN show call First Take was on campus in EL with Gameday.   Per this Eleven Warriors piece Dantonio was asked if "we got a win coming tommorow right?" his response was "we got a win coming."

Now of course the normal coach speak is to say "we are going to have 2 great competitors coming out tomorow and it's gonna be a heck of game"... or if you are Lou Holtz circa 1994 "I doubt we have even a 2% chance to win tomorrow, this MAC team we are playing is one of the best MAC teams I have ever seen or anyone has ever seen..." (for those of you too young, Holtz would build up any opponent as the greatest thing on earth).  

But this is not a normal coach in EL; this is one who takes affront to anything on Earth said against him, his program, his players, or anything with 50 miles of campus.  So it was shocking to hear.  And I'm sure he wanted to take his foot right back out of his mouth.

Now of course Spartan Nation immediately defended him and said this was a leading question - how else should he answer... no?  (I outlined proper answers by a coach 2 paragraphs earlier).  The same group of people who would have cried bloody murder, bulletin board material, a lack of respect, and all the now tired cliches if Meyer had said "we got a win coming."  

If one were a cynic one might even say Dantonio was incredibly  prideful.  You know, like right before a fall was coming ... within 30 hours.  So as the MSU faithful said it was no big deal, master philosopher Urban, who apparently is also a jedi master in manufacturing disrespect saw differently.  How do we know this? 

Well young Ezekiel Elliott went to twitter post game with some parting shots including a final shot of the movie 300 with a lot of flattened Spartans laid out post battle - but the one that must have stuck in Dantonio's craw (because as we know he monitors opposing RBs comment very closely)

The worst feeling is talking too much and not backin it up.  Love my brothers on the next one.  Go Bucks! #DontGuaranteeWinsCoach

In the words of the great philosopher queen Mrs. Bielemna. .... karma.

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The Denarding

November 9th, 2014 at 5:41 PM ^

I understand that misery over company and it helps to throw stones at tormentors like it's the Gaza Strip and this will change our stated our stated outcomes. But though I did revel in the smugness of dantonio, I thought the whole thing had a deeper lesson. The one thing I have respected about MSU (not liked mind you but respected) is that they have a singular cultural fabric and they play to it! They ARE the persecuted little brother and this forces a sense of unity to both the coaching staff and each other. The kids in that program are ALL in. Bought into persecution, bought into proving themselves, bought into the commonality of a goal and bought into executing as a team almost in a militaristic style a cohesive, unified game plan and culture in everything the program is. Then the ONE time dantonio goes from persecuted to prideful he absolutely gets his crap handed to him. Call it karma, or cosmic justice or whatever but now you can see how a persecution complex fuels them. They do not have enough natural talent such that they can just freelance and hope for the best outcome. They programmatically know that and put themselves in a unified way to play to their strengths against each opponent. They broke that cultural edict and I think it contributed to the loss. The switch from persecution to pride is a cultural shift they need to make to drive desirability This is Michigans problem currently. The reaction to the previous regime is to become Bo's Michigan even at the cost of personnel or capability. Force feed that as the metric of culture because that is what you are hired to do and it will unite the fractured administration and fanbase and because this is Michigan fergodsakes. I think the culture at Michigan football has to change. I don't see a team committed to a common cause. I see a team that is fractured in coaching, scheme, and understanding. We couldn't commit to RR culturally, derided him endlessly and then honestly we hired his diametric opposite and told him to be the diametric opposite. Literally that his explicit purpose in existence is to be antithetical. It's now a soft, family first atmosphere with accountability but lots of entitlement. And a fixed desire to not adapt to personnel but steadfastly hold the cultural line of doing things the "Michigan way". It all speaks to you unified vision that has passionate commitment from everyone. Game plans can be different but you need a singular vision from the top down of what you are going to be - not based on an entitlement structure that appears so ingrained in the culture that we can't even see how flawed we are as a team. This is the bottom which has to be for the top to occur.

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The Denarding

November 9th, 2014 at 5:41 PM ^

I understand that misery over company and it helps to throw stones at tormentors like it's the Gaza Strip and this will change our stated our stated outcomes. But though I did revel in the smugness of dantonio, I thought the whole thing had a deeper lesson. The one thing I have respected about MSU (not liked mind you but respected) is that they have a singular cultural fabric and they play to it! They ARE the persecuted little brother and this forces a sense of unity to both the coaching staff and each other. The kids in that program are ALL in. Bought into persecution, bought into proving themselves, bought into the commonality of a goal and bought into executing as a team almost in a militaristic style a cohesive, unified game plan and culture in everything the program is. Then the ONE time dantonio goes from persecuted to prideful he absolutely gets his crap handed to him. Call it karma, or cosmic justice or whatever but now you can see how a persecution complex fuels them. They do not have enough natural talent such that they can just freelance and hope for the best outcome. They programmatically know that and put themselves in a unified way to play to their strengths against each opponent. They broke that cultural edict and I think it contributed to the loss. The switch from persecution to pride is a cultural shift they need to make to drive desirability This is Michigans problem currently. The reaction to the previous regime is to become Bo's Michigan even at the cost of personnel or capability. Force feed that as the metric of culture because that is what you are hired to do and it will unite the fractured administration and fanbase and because this is Michigan fergodsakes. I think the culture at Michigan football has to change. I don't see a team committed to a common cause. I see a team that is fractured in coaching, scheme, and understanding. We couldn't commit to RR culturally, derided him endlessly and then honestly we hired his diametric opposite and told him to be the diametric opposite. Literally that his explicit purpose in existence is to be antithetical. It's now a soft, family first atmosphere with accountability but lots of entitlement. And a fixed desire to not adapt to personnel but steadfastly hold the cultural line of doing things the "Michigan way". It all speaks to you unified vision that has passionate commitment from everyone. Game plans can be different but you need a singular vision from the top down of what you are going to be - not based on an entitlement structure that appears so ingrained in the culture that we can't even see how flawed we are as a team. This is the bottom which has to be for the top to occur.

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