Funchess: "Wins and Losses just a 'Statistic'"

Submitted by BlueBarron on

I'm not really sure what to think of this but it's not very re-assuring.

*sigh*

In reply to by Chameleon Eyes

Jon06

October 5th, 2014 at 12:12 AM ^

I may write a long piece explaining this shortly but basically I think it would fracture the Michigan family again, and that didn't go so well last time.

Jon06

October 5th, 2014 at 12:35 AM ^

The fanbase, former lettermen, and most other stakeholders are united on firing Brandon.

The lettermen want to keep Hoke. Those are the people who undermined RR. IMO you fire Brandon now and let the new AD--Manuel or Bates, presumably--evaluate Hoke after the season to see how he does the rest of the way without a terrible boss interfering constantly.

UMxWolverines

October 5th, 2014 at 1:32 AM ^

Fuck them. If they're more worried about their former coach getting fired than seeing the current players representing their school being so poorly coached that it's one of the worst teams in the big ten then they don't have their priorities in order. They were more than happy to see Rich Rod out when the team wasn't even this bad. 

A certain someone said ''No man is more important than the team. No coach is more important than the team.'' And that will always be true. 

NOLA Wolverine

October 5th, 2014 at 12:47 AM ^

This is so stupid. This is the only fanbase in the world that thinks the fans have any input to the product on the field at all. We've explained away a decade of being a terrible football program by saying "oh, everyone's not on board." Did that hurt ND? Nope. Instead, they went to an NC, and now are right back in the thick of it again this year. 

gwkrlghl

October 5th, 2014 at 12:01 AM ^

When you suck, the media still wants to ask you about things, and its dumb and you just tell them things. What are you supposed to say? "Yeah we suck and we know it"

aiglick

October 5th, 2014 at 12:01 AM ^

Is this serious I guess it must be. HOLY SHIT FUNCHESS IM SORRY FOR YELLING BUT YOU THINK THAT ATTITUDE IS GOING TO HELP YOU IN THE NFL. YOU THINK WE'RE TOUGH WAIT UNTIL YOU GET IN FRONT OF AN NFL TEAM AND FAN BASE. YOU'D BE SKEWERED FOR SAYING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. Wins and losses just a statistic? I guess all that money fans pay to watch this team fail time and time after motherfucking time is just a statistic also. So pissed right now this staff and maybe team have no clue. Nada. Zippo. Oyyyyy.

nowicki2005

October 5th, 2014 at 1:21 AM ^

this team is a joke. offense is terrible and he has DG throwing him the ball. he has been injured the entire year and all DG does is throws balls to him, high, that hlleaves him exposed and getting crushed. Fans hate the team, boos playing at home, football isn't fun, mockery around the country, I'd want to shut it down too and wait to get paid at the end of the year. The team, the team, the team. This is no team.

mddubbs

October 5th, 2014 at 12:01 AM ^

This is the same culture as the Lloyd country club days.  These kids deserve so much better and they need it now.  Interim AD John Belein and Interim head coach Nuss...let's get on with it.

UMxWolverines

October 5th, 2014 at 1:18 AM ^

He's not comparing Lloyd. Lloyd was a much better coach. But this attitude no doubt started under Lloyd. Otherwise a team with Chad Henne, Jake Long, Mike Hart, and countless other NFL players would have won more than 1 big ten title and not lost to Appalachain State. 

Guys were not working as hard as they should have even under Lloyd. 

UMxWolverines

October 5th, 2014 at 2:08 AM ^

I'm so fucking tired of going over this. Larry Coker won a national title. So did Gene Chizik. It doesn't mean dick. 

Lloyd did not get the most out of a lot of his players while they were here, especially the later half of his tenure. That is not debateable. It's even on word from a Wisconsin player. 

Wolverine Devotee

October 5th, 2014 at 12:01 AM ^

lawdy

 

DairyQueen

October 5th, 2014 at 3:39 AM ^

I agree. If the shit I said when I was 20 years old was broadcast for all the world to hear, I'd probably be in jail, no women would speak to me, and my parents would disown me.

Now granted, you can argue it's on him to choose his words wisely, and if one person asks you something, then yes, you have to be disciplined. But with the amount of questions these players are probably asked over and over and over, exhuasted from the game, dehydrated, injured, so many other things to focus on, not to mention we're "reading" his words, so there's absolutely no tone or inflection, which means we literally "make one up" based on our own imagination, means we really can't know what he means.

Not to mention, the humna ego most certainly inflates when you play every week in front of 100,000+ (if it's even true anymore!) and lots of people know your name and people talk about the NFL, Sundays, etc. etc It's natural to start to think "hey, I've got my own opinions too", and damn right he should (because that's what growing up and becoming a man is), in light of that, it's then ridiculous for us to try to plaster him for the inevitable slip-up and mistake. I mean, you don't go to high-school, middle-school, or elementary students and berate them for the inevitable wrong answers they got on their exams (because no one always scores perfectly...and if they did, then they are a TOTAL NERD and SURELY SUCK AT OTHER THINGS), and for these players it's no different. They are all learning. Growing up. Becoming adults.

It's all part of the process.

But also, don't get me wrong. #firebrandon #firehoke #slapfunk

johnthesavage

October 5th, 2014 at 11:45 AM ^

Actually I meant when I said that other players don't seem to have this problem that indeed, she has googled them. Every U-M player seems to do it, yet everyone we tried on Minnesota, for example, doesn't seem to have a twitter. That's the game that sticks out to me, also a bit of Notre Dame. Of course, many schools do have this problem, but many schools also try to limit the amount of fluff their players put in public. Personally, I think that's a good idea, and it doesn't seem to be practiced here at all.

Anyway, of course this is an extremely minor issue. But when things are going like this, everything is amplified. And I do think we are probably among the leaders in the nation for % of players tweeting.

michfan6060returns

October 5th, 2014 at 12:02 AM ^

Wins and losses are just a statistic and in less than a year I'm gonna be ballin in the NFL making millions away from this shithole

Danwillhor

October 5th, 2014 at 12:35 AM ^

I took from it. Based on things I've heard about him personally (not bad, just a character.....very high energy wacky character) I've seen no scenario in which he comes back. The only thing I can think of is the chance of a very high profile hire at HC that convinces him that he'll improve his draft stock by almost a full round if he stays. Given the rookie cap that's a big sell now if you're a late 1st-early 3rd round type player (and he is, don't kid yourself into thinking he's a sure fire 1st rounder).

EnoughAlready

October 5th, 2014 at 12:02 AM ^

because I know how everyone here loves Jake Ryan.

But in an interview after the ND, he said something to this effect: "We left it all on the field.  We gave it our all.  We're not gonna hang our heads about this game.  Just gotta get better for next week..."

I really couldn't believe it.  Michigan just got spanked, shutout, lost by 31 points in a rivalry game, and perhaps their best defender is...nonplussed.  Not even upset.  "We did our best..."  A 31-0 loss is your "best"?

And what I realized...that's the mentality Hoke has instilled in this team.  No fire.  No chip on the shoulder.  No mean edge.  They receive blows rather than deliver them.  It's just incredible to see, week after week.

Michigan's signature win on the season is...Appy St.

GoBLUinTX

October 5th, 2014 at 1:00 AM ^

It isn't a reflection of coaching so much as it is a reflection of today's society that hands out participation trophies and doesn't keep score because there should be no winners and losers.  Hoke, if he perpetuates that philosophy, is doing nothing different than what you can find on many soccer fields and baseball diamonds all across Ann Arbor and nation.