Most talented basketball team ever?
Should Nik, Glenn and Mitch be selected in the first round, will that make UM 2013 team one of the most talented college teams ever? I cannot think of a recent college team that had 5 first round NBA players who started at the same time.
I was thinking the same thing recently... makes that Louisville loss so fucking painful
If you want to feel even worse, know that we almost got Luke Hancock - and kept him from Louisville - when he transferred from George Mason.
Then again, that run was awesome and this is the kind of sports pain that I welcome.
ugh fuck that guy
I'm going out on a limb and assuming it's a heterosexual marriage, so he's probably not that kind of friend.
Really? I mean yeah I would have liked to win the national title but we needed a miracle to get there and lost to the one team that looked like the best team in the tournament.
Think how you would be feeling if Michigan lost to Kansas (and we still got to the Elite 8 this year). Rather than "John Beilein is the best coach in college basketball" it would be something like "Michigan is back to being respectable in basketball thanks to Beilein." Much less exciting.
DBAD, dude.
Yeah, finishing second out of 350 totally sucks. We should heckle the salutatorian at high school graduations.
Haven't UK and UNC had a bunch of guys go in the first round recently? Maybe Florida too...
Not all starting 5 in the first round
First Round Picks:
Rodrick Rhodes (transferred)
Antoine Walker
Tony Delk
Walter McCarty
Ron Mercer
Derek Anderson
Nazr Mohommed
Scott Padgett
Others Drafted/Signed:
Mark Pope
Jeff Shepard
Wayne Turner
/lawyer'd
Because so many of those guys made any noise in the NBA....
Well, technically, "pre-89" should come before Fab 5, that is, if you're going to use the term "respectively" correctly.
I think it's a mail plane....
2012 NBA Draft...just 2 years ago.
1 | 1 | Anthony Davis+ | PF/C | United States | New Orleans Hornets | Kentucky (Fr.) |
1 | 2 | Michael Kidd-Gilchrist | SF | United States | Charlotte Bobcats | Kentucky (Fr.) |
1 | 29 | Marquis Teague | PG | United States | Chicago Bulls | Kentucky (Fr.) |
1 | 18 | Terrence Jones | PF | United States | Houston Rockets (from Utah via Minnesota)[e] | Kentucky (So.) |
2 | 42 | Doron Lamb | SG | United States | Milwaukee Bucks | Kentucky (So.) |
Yup...that is pretty good.
You responded too quick, before I could edit.
I wanted to add UNC in 2012 as well.
1 | 14 | John Henson | PF | United States | Milwaukee Bucks (from Houston)[c] | North Carolina (Jr.) |
1 | 7 | Harrison Barnes | SF | United States | Golden State Warriors | North Carolina (So.) |
1 | 13 | Kendall Marshall | PG | United States | Phoenix Suns | North Carolina (So.) |
1 | 17 | Tyler Zeller | C | United States | Dallas Mavericks (traded to Cleveland)[A] | North Carolina (Sr.) |
I understand that it's the entire starting 5...but I'm sure those teams had another guy go in the first round...maybe not.
If he goes in the first round this year...
UNC will do exactly what the OP is talking about, he was the SG to the four guys above.
I think bullock went in the first round last year too.
Lamp was in the 2nd round
I love lamp.
There have been similar Kentucky teams of recent years and certainly some seriously star powered programs in the 80's and 90's prior to kids jumping to the pros. Recently the 2009 UNC team that won the national championship saw these guys go pro:
Ty Lawson - First Round
Wayne Ellington - First Round
Tyler Hansbrough - First Round
Tyler Zeller - First Round
Ed Davis - First Round
Danny Green - 2nd Round
...and those National Championship Florida Gator teams with Noah and Brewer. Not sure if they had all 5 go in the first. But that UNC team was stupid good.
UNC also had a great team lead by May and Felton.
And I'm getting my teams mixed up, but one of those had Marvin Williams as a 6th man and he was like a top 5 pick.
Second round to Portland.
Pale complection?
Zeller was selected in 2012, while Hansbrough in 2009. I think Zeller did not play much in 2009.
Perhaps I shuold amend my statement that they should be drafted within two years.
Zeller was getting equivalent minutes to McGary as a freshman before breaking his wrist. He returned in the ACC tournament and played a role in them winning the title.
Most talented basketball team ever?
Two choices:
Or
Chuck Daly sets them apart.
I am still mad about that.
Why was Christian Laettner selected?
and he was clearly the most accomplished college player at that time,
At Michigan? Maybe. All of college bball? No way.
You really should've picked a better title...because you're trying to ask if anyone else has had a starting line up of first round draft picks and you're asking if last years team was the most talented ever...no. Even if the entire team does go in the first round, no.
One could argue that FAB 5 and the National Champ team were more talented.
The National Championship team had 4 first round picks and a 2nd. The Fab 5 had 3 first rounds picks and a second. It should be noted that more foreign players are getting drafted nowadays, making the accomplishment of the recent team more impressive.
It could tie the number of first rounders in one draft by Michigan, but I doubt it will.
The most players taken in the modern, 2-round NBA draft was in 1990.
Draft |
Player |
Rd. |
No. |
Drafted To |
1990 |
Rumeal Robinson |
1 |
10 |
Atlanta Hawks |
1990 |
Loy Vaught |
1 |
13 |
Los Angeles Clippers |
1990 |
Terry Mills |
1 |
16 |
Milwaukee Bucks |
1990 |
Sean Higgins |
2 |
54 |
San Antonio Spurs |
in the previous draft makes the 1989 team a more talented group in my eyes.
Most talented ever? Not at all. I'm no college basketball guru, but I feel like you only have to look at some of Kentucky's, Duke's, and UNC's greatest ever teams and those teams undoubtedly eclipse ours by leaps and bounds.
I'd take the National Championship team over the Fab 5. No one on the Fab 5 could shoot it like Glen Rice. The '89 team had big bodies inside (Mills and Vaught) that could handle* Webber and Howard. The champs also had a bona fide point guard in Rumeal. The Fab 5 had Jalen, who was a great player, but I don't consider him a prototypical PG and when the Fab 5 bogged down on offense, I think it was because other than Talley, they didn't have a true point.
Vaught v. Webber? Webber gets the edge. Vaught was a 13th overall selection and had a long NBA career (Mr. Clipper), so the edge isn't as big as some might think.
Mills v. Howard? I love Juwan Howard, but this is pretty even. Mills was an incredible post player when motivated.
Rice v. Rose? Glen Rice, no doubt about it. Tournament scoring record, etc.
Higgins v. Ray Jackson? Higgins. He was the #1 overall recruit or thereabouts. He was drafted, Ray was not.
Rumeal v. King? Rumeal was the 10th overall pick while King was a 2nd rounder. Plus, Rumeal was a PG.
So I give it 3-1-1 to the 89 team.
If you want to add the benches, Hughes, Griffin and Calip were pretty productive for the 89 team. I guess I'd give the edge to the Fab 5's bench because of Talley, Voskuil, Riley and Pelinka having more starting experience, and Riley's height gives him an edge over Hughes.
EDIT: by 'handle' I don't mean shut down, just that they could match up with them and not get destroyed.
TEAM > player?